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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: sidthekid on August 21, 2002, 12:38:04 AM
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One of my wife's students is from Jorden, While we were visiting them. a man with blond hair blue eyes came asked them in arabic for atlas. I realized he spoke english to, So I asked him if he was from Germany as that sounded like his orgin by his accent. He say no Palastian. I look 5 times at him he saw I was confused, But was polite. He then says he's going to Ca. I look at his car its 2 arabic dark skins in back seat, Him a another blond hair light skin in front. When i asked student how he knew them he said Mosque. they wanted to borrow his atlas for thier trip. Well when I wrote down lic # and thought hard if I should call someone, ( because I thought what a great way to travel for terriost a light skin man driving would not be stopped I thought, This is when I realized i was a racist.
I guess its easier than I thought to become a racist.
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man that was fscking awful, well at least you admit to it, so what the hell.. :confused:
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Lemme a see blond haired blue eyed Palestenian? I'm sorry I dont think that really checks out as far as the possible genetics are concerned. Red haired Arabic types yes but blond and blue are recessive characteristics and would not make it past the dark hair dark eyes that the arabic people have.
But racist I dont know, the current terrorist threat is definitely from young arabic men - many of whom pose as students for cover. I say give the FBI a call and tell them your story.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Lemme a see blond haired blue eyed Palestenian? I'm sorry I dont think that really checks out as far as the possible genetics are concerned. Red haired Arabic types yes but blond and blue are recessive characteristics and would not make it past the dark hair dark eyes that the arabic people have.
But racist I dont know, the current terrorist threat is definitely from young arabic men - many of whom pose as students for cover. I say give the FBI a call and tell them your story.
Heh, what roadkill.
You simply dont believe that a blond haired blue eyed person can be palestenian?
But racist I dont know, the current terrorist threat is definitely from young arabic men - many of whom pose as students for cover. I say give the FBI a call and tell them your story.
Christ.
Are you kidding?
:rolleyes:
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sid, you should have formed a mob and beat them.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
sid, you should have formed a mob and beat them.
LOL
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1145000/images/_1146326_mob300.jpg)
Gotta love angry mobs.
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He can be a palestenian citizen, like a japanese citizen, but he is not ethnically arabic - no way..
And yes I think it was perfectly reasonable that he took the license number, it was an unusual event.
Sidthekid, here is a link to the FBI tip submission "hotline".
https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/terrorist.asp
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I saw a group of young middle easterns at college today. They were young and grouped together.
Maybe I should have called the authorities, as very, very probably their intentions were not studying, but... TERRORISM [/i]
Please, Sid was right, he was being a racist. You may hate palestinians Grun, and you would probably call the FBI just to ruin their vacation. Terrorism as a great excuse to do it.
If you are going to be a snitch, at least go after the mobsters and criminals, not innocent people. Oh wait, they are palestinians, their well being is probably not much of a concern.
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a raceist believes their race is superior to all others. you dont qualify by the statements you made.
bugged by beeing brown animal?
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Why on earth do you think I have anything against palestanians?
Explain why me thinking that an ethnic palesteninan can't have blond hair and blue eyes makes me hate them?
Explain why me thinking that sid wasnt a racist if he was concerned about an apparently odd looking group of young arabic speaking men after 911, makes me hate palestenians?
Explain why it is that I hate palesteninans if I think it would be safe for the FBI to check out the car's license number?
Explain how you arrived at the conclusion that I hate palestenians?
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
a raceist believes their race is superior to all others. you dont qualify by the statements you made.
bugged by beeing brown animal?
Hmmm, let me check on that.
rac·ism Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
dis·crim·i·na·tion Pronunciation Key (d-skrm-nshn)
n.
The act of discriminating.
*The ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment.
Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice: racial discrimination; discrimination against foreigners
*Hmmm, Grun's analisis fits perfectly
prej·u·dice Pronunciation Key (prj-ds)
n.
An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
I knew my understanding of your language wasnt bad. In fact, better than average.
bugged by beeing brown animal?
Not at all, I have a complexion that is enviable, and physical features that I would not trade for anything in the world.
I'm "bugged" by certain attitudes, discrimination REALLY bothers me some.
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Would you call the FBI if you spotted an Irishman?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why on earth do you think I have anything against palestanians?
Hehe, come on, maybe not palestinians only, but its pretty obvious from your posts the latest months that your ideal solution to the middle eastern disputes is plain genocide.
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Explain why me thinking that an ethnic palesteninan can't have blond hair and blue eyes makes me hate them?
The guy didnt say "I'm Ethnic Palestinian" he said "I'm Palestinian"
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Explain why me thinking that sid wasnt a racist if he was concerned about an apparently odd looking group of young arabic speaking men after 911, makes me hate palestenians?
Oh sure, if you see two cars with tourists or foreigners inside, one full of whites/whatever, and the other with "ethnic palestinians" its not a racist thing to call the FBI on the second car? You truly believe that? That because of the "terrorist threat" racial profiling is suddenly the right thing to do?
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Explain why it is that I hate palesteninans if I think it would be safe for the FBI to check out the car's license number?
Why should the car's lisence be checked? you spotted explosives, weapons, building plans or something fishy inside? or is it because they are just palestinians? do you believe that if someone claims to be a palestinian student there is a high posibility that they are terrorists? That's downright xenophobia.
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Explain how you arrived at the conclusion that I hate palestenians?
You dont hate them. You are just a lil' wary of the whole of them, thats all! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
a raceist believes their race is superior to all others. you dont qualify by the statements you made.
bugged by beeing brown animal?
rac·ism Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Look at number 2, Towd. Why would you assume Animal would be bugged by his colour? Let me answer. It's because you are being prejudiced based on race. This would make you a racist as well, Towd.
And yes it would also make sid's reaction racist.
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Do u really believe an undercover blond terrorist would tell u he's from palestina?
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Well yes I certainly do think the best solution to the middle east is that they all just kill each other. You see when everyone is dead both sides will finally be happy because the succeded in killing off the whole other group of people!!! You see it's pure genious a mid east peace plan both sides will surely agree to. It fits their goals. :rolleyes:
Anyway I see plenty of arabic looking people on the road every day and think nothing wierd about it. But if a strange group of some young blond haired blue eyed europeans came along claiming to be arabs I would sure as hell think it was wierd. Depending on how wierd it was I might just take the license plate
down and pass it on to the authorities.
Animal are you aware of the fact that the WTC and Pentagon were mostly attacked by young arabic men who lived together, traveled together, went to school as a cover, came in on student visas? Or do you read some wierd french books and think it was the CIA?
So hell yes if I see a group of young arabic men who seem to ME, as in my personal discretion, to be acting wierd I will take closer note of them simply on account of September 11. You would be a fool not to.
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Some fuzzy logic there, pal.
On the bright side, I'm enjoying all this paranoia.
I was a lil' late for the cold war, so the new burst of xenophobia in America has been an awesome blast of comedic gold.
I have a nice drinking game with my pals, we put on fox news or CNN and drink a shot of bourbon every time the word TERRORIST is mentioned.
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I have a nice drinking game with my pals, we put on fox news or CNN and drink a shot of bourbon every time the word TERRORIST is mentioned.
Animal is drunk no doubt
Europe already had it's witch hunting time luckily
And yes i'm a racist to i do not go to bed with man
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Hey toejam Animal it's my decision. I would certainly take note of anyhing that struck me as wierd these days especially if it was by young arabic men.
Animal are you aware that there were instances when some of the 911 hijackers were seen and heard doing strange things and acting wierdly- some of them even openly said in conversaition to strangers that they wanted to hurt America. But the witnesses did nothing because they guys were arabic and did not want t appear as racist.
But hell why be offensive only a few thousand people could die...
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i mix races
LOL
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Hey toejam Animal it's my decision. I would certainly take note of anyhing that struck me as wierd these days especially if it was by young arabic men.
Animal are you aware that there were instances when some of the 911 hijackers were seen and heard doing strange things and acting wierdly- some of them even openly said in conversaition to strangers that they wanted to hurt America. But the witnesses did nothing because they guys were arabic and did not want t appear as racist.
But hell why be offensive only a few thousand people could die...
Hey, why dont you take a job at the FBI, CIA?
Bug, nice looking tardlet you got there ;)
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There are many palestinians that aren't arabic .
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The situation one faces today sucks. Parnoia runs high and unfortantly this is what our foe wants. You see America/USA is a nation of different peoples brought togather by an ideal. We try to overlook these differences to achieve this lofty ideal. WHEN we no longer do so... then that ideal ie FREEDOM FOR ALL is gone.
There is nothing WRONG w/being careful... but the thing to remember is that we also had a full blooded blond haired american blow up a governement building w/childrean in it...
Does this mean every Avis van w/a white guy driving and parking somewhere is to be reported?
xBAT
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So, if I say that all Masai are better at high jump than the Pygmies, purely because of differances between the two genetically, one being nearer two metres than one tall, the other lucky to reach 1m........I'm being rascist?
Well shoot....colour me rascist, becuase I truely believe that statement about high jumping.
I dont believe that 'rascism' is truely just believing that differant races are capable of differant things to differant degrees, more the belief that any one race has more or less right to exist than any other.
The Australian Aborigines make great sprinters and runners, but you dont see a whole hell of a lot of them in swimming championships....why is that?
Ever seen a Samoan ballet dancer?
A Kiwi thats good for anything? ;-)
White Super Heavy weight boxing champions? granted, they are about, but they aren't a majority.
Show me a race of people better at making fiddly electronic gadgetry than the Japanese, maybe that has more to do with circumstance than genetics, but you get the picture, I'm sure.
So, am I rascist because I believe we are all differant, and some races are better at some things than others?
Or am I not, because i believe that we all have an equal right to existance, regardless of race, colour or creed?
The rights of people in countries other than that of their birth is a differant matter alltogether , in my opinion, regardless of how or why they came to be there, which, I guess, could be taken to be a rascist thing to say, but really is about place of origin, not race.
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Why get worked up over it? I looked it up in the Kieren Dictionary. It said:
rac·ist Pronunciation Key (rsst)
n.
1. In the U.S., anyone white.
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What I found out is Just like Us Palastians have Albino's too. Yes my first thought when hearing his speach was "not a true palastian", again this show me how little I know of their culture based mostly on TV. Never met a Palastian before in person, Met many arabic people just no one from palastine. After talking to Omar wifes Student, and explaning myself. He didn't take offense but explained most palastians do not leave home for fear they will not be let back home, Now that is a shame, for to learn that world and USA doesn't hate them and want them dead they need to visit other countries and see how real people are. all they read and hear is about How we support Isrealis and want all muslims killed, This is what some leaders and arabic newspapers feed them.......................
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Distrust, paranoia and fear...
Isn't that the terrorist objective?
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You know, a perfect cover for a terrorist would be to pose as a Eastern European, rabidly right wing, luftwabble! Maybe even throw in some RC Aircraft experience and thousands of hours of training on a flight sim....... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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race has, or should have, nothing to do with it.
however,
it's stupid to keep your head in the sand and eww.. "don't make a scene".. or "don't assume they might do something bad", etc..
Keep an open mind.
Assuming everyone is friendly or assuming everyone is an enemy is stupid and closed-minded. Especially if it's based on race.
Demonstrated threat is different. What's wrong with looking a little closer to make sure there isn't a threat. If you/she/he/I aren't doing anything wrong, why worry if someone is looking a little deeper.
You can't have security and blind complacency at the same time. That's what happend on 9-11. Complacency.
This isn't a "leave it to beaver" world, as much as many would like to believe, and the sooner we all accept that the better.
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BUG...LOL me too!
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"How we support Isrealis and want all muslims killed, This is what some leaders and arabic newspapers feed them......................."
Heh..it's certainly also the impression you get from this BBS :)
Daff
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Well not really woried that they will try to hijack another airliner in USA. Now entire passengers will attack knowing that if they lose control of plane it becomes a bomb.
What worries me is people who lease their private planes, We have decided not to lease out our Caravan to anyone. Just decided that to be prudent and responsible to our employees, that we should take chance our plane could be used to hurt others, which in turn could open us up to lawsuits. It know cost us a lot more to keep our plane with out diverting some of the cost. But I think any plane bigger than a single engine is at risk. You can carry over 4000lbs in our Caravan (with out pod attached) with pod its close to 5000 lbs.
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The problem with the word racism is that it makes a faulty assumption: that we are all of different race. That is an utterly incorrect statement. We are all, no matter what skin color, hair color, nationality, creed, sex, whatever...we are all HUMAN. Period.
You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it is all moot. Why doesn't everyone just wake up and realize the simple truth? We are but a group of barely evolved hairless apes living on a tiny rock orbiting an insignificant star in a giant universe. Get over all your petty squabbles and let's get on with our lives.
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There's a big difference between discriminating in a particular situation, and being a racist Sid, regardless of what animal spouts.
You were not being a racist in that particular situation. You were discriminating though.
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Of course, there is a perfectly good solution to all of this. Internment camps. It helped us win WWII by keeping all of those Japanese spies under lock-and-key through the duration of the war, and it can help us win the War on Terror by getting all of those terrorists in the muslim population off the streets too!
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Originally posted by koala
There's a big difference between discriminating in a particular situation, and being a racist Sid, regardless of what animal spouts.
You were not being a racist in that particular situation. You were discriminating though.
Damn straight... Racial discrimination isn't racism.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Damn straight... Racial discrimination isn't racism.
Ahhh, a man of discriminating intelligence. :D
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LOL!!!!
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Originally posted by jonnyb
The problem with the word racism is that it makes a faulty assumption: that we are all of different race.....
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You can argue until you're blue in the face....
Jonny, if we all had blue faces we wouldn't be talking about racism, bud. And anyway Sid should have formed a mob and beat those terrorists, even if a couple of them DID look like us.
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Palestinian isn't an ethnicity or even a nationality . Some of them are arabs or semites, caucasion and blacks. They come from at least four different nationalities, Egypt, Isreal and Jordan, and Lebanon and maybe Syria .
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By that logic Israeli, (which you call a nationality) isnt even an ethnic group or nationality. So your argument basically sucks Suave. Lets see Isrealis are Russian, German, Polish, Ethiopian, Mexican, Dutch, British, Czech and so on and so on.......
And yes the Palestenians are now a nationality, no matter huw much you Palestine haters don't want to admit it. They have just as much cause to be called that as does any American. Or is that not a Nationality.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
By that logic Israeli, (which you call a nationality) isnt even an ethnic group or nationality. So your argument basically sucks Suave. Lets see Isrealis are Russian, German, Polish, Ethiopian, Mexican, Dutch, British, Czech and so on and so on.......
And yes the Palestenians are now a nationality, no matter huw much you Palestine haters don't want to admit it. They have just as much cause to be called that as does any American. Or is that not a Nationality.
Now I'm a palestinian hater ? Palestine is region in asia minor, there are five countries in that region: Egypt, Lebannon, Syria, Isreal, Jordan. I just stated facts, not an argument .
No Isreali isn't an ethnicity. It is a country so that makes it a nationality . Isn't this stuff obvious ?
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Imagine if you ask a Palestenian what country are you from, I'm sure he would say I'm from Israel. Or I'm from Egypt.... Yes 100% sure. :rolleyes:
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If you asked a palestinian what country he is from he would either answer your question or wouldn't . I'm 100% sure .
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Now that I think about it, been there done that . Asked a redhead with a funny accent where she was from, she said Isreal .
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nice, very nice curval
both :D
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I'm playing a toon game with these tards? How depressing...
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How many still play? handsomehunk digging up ancient threads and whining. Really?
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(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee366/TimDFreeman/In-before-the-lock_zps44a9b6c9.jpg)
This one's gonna end well...
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Over 11 year old thread
:rofl
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Over 11 year old thread
:rofl
Puts the OP's story in a different light. :lol
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Over 11 year old thread
:rofl
Doah! :bhead
:lol I didn't notice the posting date until you pointed it out. Yeesh. :D
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How many still play? handsomehunk digging up ancient threads and whining. Really?
It's a reminder that the topics have changed but maybe the folks haven't. Always good to visit your cultural past so you don't repeat it. You sound offended. Are you a racist or just the self appointed AHBBS police?
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Elfenwolf, didn't he die in a bungie cord accident? :devil
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Elfenwolf, didn't he die in a bungie cord accident? :devil
Lmao!!!!
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:uhoh
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Elfenwolf, didn't he die in a bungie cord accident? :devil
I wonder what happened to some of those guys. Animal is a pilot flying out of Detroit, Curval and MT are still around, but I haven't heard from Grunhertz or Kieran forever, or Sandman.
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Everybody is a racist, in one degree or another. Its what you do with it that makes the difference. Howbeit the more factual observation is that it is the Cultures that drives it all. :bolt:
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Elfenwolf, didn't he die in a bungie cord accident? :devil
Nah he pulled through, no small thanks to the charity organisation in his name.
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Everybody is a racist, in one degree or another. Its what you do with it that makes the difference. Howbeit the more factual observation is that it is the Cultures that drives it all. :bolt:
Lighten up Francis.
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toasting in epic bread
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One of my wife's students is from Jorden, While we were visiting them. a man with blond hair blue eyes came asked them in arabic for atlas. I realized he spoke english to, So I asked him if he was from Germany as that sounded like his orgin by his accent. He say no Palastian. I look 5 times at him he saw I was confused, But was polite. He then says he's going to Ca. I look at his car its 2 arabic dark skins in back seat, Him a another blond hair light skin in front. When i asked student how he knew them he said Mosque. they wanted to borrow his atlas for thier trip. Well when I wrote down lic # and thought hard if I should call someone, ( because I thought what a great way to travel for terriost a light skin man driving would not be stopped I thought, This is when I realized i was a racist.
I guess its easier than I thought to become a racist.
Probably not racist. A bit overly paranoid though..
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Probably not racist. A bit overly paranoid though..
say what? OP is racist, that's what makes this thread so amusing.. how effing ignorant he is.
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Meanwhile......12 years later..... :uhoh
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racist or not, its proven fact by history that you should never trust an Arab , does not matter if it is Muslim or Jew.
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racist or not, its proven fact by history that you should never trust an Arab , does not matter if it is Muslim or Jew.
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racist or not, its proven fact by history that you should never trust an Arab , does not matter if it is Muslim or Jew.
these threads always make people like you come out of the wood work, thanks for the heads up about your ignorance.
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Profiling has become code language for racism. Highly controversial and problematic though not something that should be simply surrendered.
Several programs and protocols have been put into place that would engage profiling in a non-racist manner. I would imagine a blonde from Germany driving individuals with apparent Middle-eastern background is one thing. A blonde with German accent claiming to be from Lebanon invites another question or two, which a difference between thoughtful screening and flat out racial profiling.
We in America are so upside down on this that old women and 5-year old girls get sexually assaulted, while individuals with much more interesting demonstrations walk right through. A sidebar, we should accept that TSA is a joke and provides ZERO security. Anyone wanting to get through TSA can get through with nearly 95% certainty.
America is wallowing in political correct statism.
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:lol
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Profiling has become code language for racism. Highly controversial and problematic though not something that should be simply surrendered.
Several programs and protocols have been put into place that would engage profiling in a non-racist manner. I would imagine a blonde from Germany driving individuals with apparent Middle-eastern background is one thing. A blonde with German accent claiming to be from Lebanon invites another question or two, which a difference between thoughtful screening and flat out racial profiling.
We in America are so upside down on this that old women and 5-year old girls get sexually assaulted, while individuals with much more interesting demonstrations walk right through. A sidebar, we should accept that TSA is a joke and provides ZERO security. Anyone wanting to get through TSA can get through with nearly 95% certainty.
America is wallowing in political correct statism.
How often do you use commercial airlines?
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