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Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: beet1e on August 21, 2002, 05:07:19 AM
My bug is back!  A few months ago I agonised over what to do with it. The inner panels were badly corroded, as were the heater channels. There were other corrosion problems too :( but mechanically the car is all right.

I could not allow myself to have the car broken for spares. That's the option that would have made the most economic sense. I discussed other options with Henley Beetles, the company near here that specialises in VW air cooled restorations and repairs, including buying a different bug and trading in my own. But the option which suited us both the best was for mine to be restored. I've had to pay quite a lot - more than I paid for the car to begin with, but this was offset to some degree by money I received from a TV company, who used my Bug in a DAZ commercial which is aired between segments of Emmerdale.

And here he is - Jacob, as I call him, because the orange and black colour scheme is like the Jacobs cream cracker wrapper!
Title: steering wheel on the wrong side - LOL
Post by: beet1e on August 21, 2002, 05:09:14 AM
... and here’s another of the interior. Have any of you guys ever driven a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side? :D

Note the new carpets etc.
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on August 21, 2002, 05:42:03 AM
Excellent pics very nice
:D

There is nothing like driving the bug

WTG!!
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: CyranoAH on August 21, 2002, 06:12:06 AM
Hey, it's the clockwork orange! :D

Daniel
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: lazs2 on August 21, 2002, 08:17:34 AM
beetle... in double ought... Hooligan and I drove a fiat about 1200 miles in england and Scotland.   we drove it on those crappy, narrow, rainsoaked roads and did our best to figure out all the symbols and roundabouts.   Worse thing for me was tryuing to shift the "stick in two week old jello" shifter with my left hand while entering a "roundabout" and trying to figure out why none of the cutsie signs matched the map.

in the U.S. every smelly hippie and weekend love child worth his beads had a "bug" for about a decade there.   Every town was full of "restoration" shops and any decent one bragged about being able to "change out your VW engine during your lunch hour"  and they did.   A trip to lake Tahoe would kill any VW bus halfway up.   every ten years people forget how bad those cars were and reserect em for a few years.
lazs
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: Eagler on August 21, 2002, 08:29:30 AM
very nice

what exactly did the restoration include?

were they able to remove ALL the rust

seems everywhere I look I'm finding rust coming through the paint or rust damaged metal

Did they cut out the really bad stuff and weld new metal or just sand as much rust away and bondo the heck out of it?
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 21, 2002, 09:00:03 AM
Next time you take it in to have any serious restoration work done on it, make sure they put the steering wheel back on the correct side of the car. ;)

AKDejaVu
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: Wlfgng on August 22, 2002, 09:43:22 AM
eww.. Bronco orange....:eek:
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: midnight Target on August 22, 2002, 12:05:14 PM
LOL, fondly remember loading 8 people into a VW bus and trying to drive to Lake Arrowhead (thats a climb up a mountain from 1000ft to about 7000ft elevation).

Made it 1/2 way. Wouldn't even move in 1st gear. Had to drop off 3 people on the side of the road, then go back for them later.

And BTW, that bug's steering wheel is on the wrong side :p
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: beet1e on August 22, 2002, 03:15:08 PM
Lazs -

Ah, glad you had fun driving to Scotland. :) I've done plenty of driving in America in left hand drive cars (all automatic) - no problems. I've done a fair amount of driving in Europe in manual left hand drive rental cars - not too bad, but feels weird to have to push the stick away when changing from 4th to 5th. Driving my own car in Europe is even more weird! Prefer LHD for that.  Our highway signs were completely changed in the 1960s so that all European countries would have a standard set. As you know, there are currently 15 European Union member states, and there are almost as many languages. So it was deemed more appropriate, for example,  for speed limits to be depicted as a number in a red circle, instead of "SPEED LIMIT 55". The ride up to Tahoe would not kill my Bug. The British weather nearly did.

LOL! AKdejavu - steering wheel :D

Eagler - the Bug is a rust free zone. I told the engineers I wanted no bodged up bondo crap. Here's a pic showing a new section being cut in. Somewhere in this car's life, someone decided to bodge this section with filler.
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: beet1e on August 22, 2002, 03:18:24 PM
The main cause for concern had been these inner panels. They are made of mild steel, and therefore rust easily. That's why modern cars have all this galvinising and rust prevention treatment. Of course, if I lived near Lazs, corrosion wouldn't be a problem.
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: senna on August 22, 2002, 03:21:55 PM
Galvanizing and anti-rust protection wasnt implimented in auto manufacturing until the early 70s. Its a thing that most auto manufactures caught onto as standard throughout the 70s.
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: beet1e on August 22, 2002, 03:36:29 PM
senna - that's right, and at about that time, the cars that had been built c1965 were in a VERY sorry state. My brother had a 1965 Austin A40 (his first car) and by 1970 it had been eaten out by rust. The trouble here is the salt that's put down on the roads during the winter months, and the grit (mixed with salt) that's put down to give extra grip.  I asked my Beetle engineers about the inner panels, and they told me that they had been treated with a rust inhibitor.
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: Eagler on August 25, 2002, 09:20:41 PM
more pictures please (b4, during and after)

changed out the window  u channel felt thingies on both windows, relubed the window regulators, removed/cleaned windows, replaced both front door panels & window cranks (gotta get more clips and grommets for the back two), installed a rear deck thingy for the speakers - now that they are out of the doors, installed neat chrome thingies that went under the door handle-they are chromed brass 20 year old german made got off ebay for probably too much :).

Any suggestions on running boards? heard better to go with german than brazilian made, easier to install-last longer  = true? Still have to tackle the reverse lights - got a floor jack & stands so I can get under the bug and look for the sensor on the transmission...

btwn the bug, weekend yard work and one flight in BOB  - killed entire weekend :)
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: Puke on August 25, 2002, 09:32:41 PM
This may be a stupid question, but never having driven anything with the wheel on the right side, I'm curious if the pedals are reversed as well or is the gas pedal still on the right side and the brake and clutch both to the left of the gas pedal.  ?
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: hblair on August 25, 2002, 09:42:42 PM
Nice pics beetle. I've owned a couple of beetles myself. I chopped the top on a '73 back when I was a junior in high school. Did all kinds of body mods to it. I'll try to find a pic and scan it...
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: Cobra on August 25, 2002, 10:55:48 PM
Is that a clear-coat finish?
Title: The best car in the world: It's back!
Post by: beet1e on August 26, 2002, 03:30:58 AM
Eagler - I have plenty more pics. If you send me an email at orangebeet1e@yahoo.co.uk I can send you the lot. :) (But not if you have a crappy hotmail account - max file attachment size = 100K)

Don't know about the running boards, and my bug does not have reverse lights - see additional pic.

Puke - No, the pedals are the same. The accelerator is on the right, and the clutch is on the left with the brake in the middle. However, on some early Bentleys (c1920) the brake was on the left and the clutch was in the middle. :confused: :eek:

There are all sorts of things that need to be taken into consideration when adapting a car for right hand drive. The main annoyance is when the maker has not configured the windscreen wipers for RHD, and a large unswept area is left on the driver's side. Wipers on RHD cars need to rise up from the left in a clockwise motion as viewed from the driver's seat, so that the driver's side is swept clear. This means relocating the wipers. If you see a car and there appears to be a position for an extra wiper, that's the reason.

On the Bug, the speedo cable plugs into the front wheel. But on RHD models, an extension is needed because the drive unit has to be on the LEFT wheel in all cases, else the cable would rotate backwards.

Cobra - if by clear coat finish you mean "gloss", then yes. It's not metallic or anything like that.

This model had a stainless steel bumper attached at the back, and stainless steel tail pipes.