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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Udie on August 22, 2002, 09:24:41 PM
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If anybody here has ever had problems with depression or manic depression, and has been put on medication for it, please email me spmcnulty@austin.rr.com
Been having way too many ups and downs for no reasons lately and I think maybe I got that toejam. Could use some advice.....
thanks....
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Your about 34 now right?... Starts kicking in around than.. it's normal for guys. Relax
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Just wait till the urge to buy a BMW or Corvette starts to kick in. ;)
Its part of mid-life bud... don't sweat the little things.
AKDejaVu
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Fish more, worry less.
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Happens to me a lot.
Daily exercise cures it. Its the best anti depressant.
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Udie Talk to your doctor about it. Seriously. Oftentimes a chemical imbalance causes mood swings and a prescription can help keep you "normal" (whatever that is) but it could be an indication of something else like brain cancer (caused from eating mercury contaminated fish BTW) or, even worse, the onset of impotence. I'd definately make an appointment to get checked out tho if I were you, and just to be safe I'd quit killing and eating fishies. Luck, bud.
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you gettin' enough ?
... that could cause it
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Udie check your email.
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
you gettin' enough ?
... that could cause it
not for another squealing week at least stupid stitches!
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see yesterday was a high.
today is a LOW
tired of this toejam
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Not much for preachin, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
Quit smokin pot. I was about your age when I quit. Pot may be as harmless a drug as you can get, but it's still a drug. No matter how much you think you got things under control, by staying high you have reduced the time your body and mind have had to learn to cope with normal external pressures.
Thats just another way of saying "you don't know how to act unless you have some external numbing going on".
Think about it,
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did you get my email?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Not much for preachin, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
Quit smokin pot. I was about your age when I quit. Pot may be as harmless a drug as you can get, but it's still a drug. No matter how much you think you got things under control, by staying high you have reduced the time your body and mind have had to learn to cope with normal external pressures.
Thats just another way of saying "you don't know how to act unless you have some external numbing going on".
Think about it,
I would tend to agree with you MT, but I haven't smoked since about 2 days after the con. Pot was never something that gave me much problems. I can live with it or without it. Sure there were times when I was younger that it was all I lived for, but for the past 10 years I've only used it when I get home at night. Kind of like that one or two beer drinker. If there's a social event or something I don't do it. And about one a year or so I quit for a month or two just to clear up the mind and keep it sharp :)
But even while using pot I still get the same highs and lows as when I'm not using it, like the past 2 or 3 weeks. Right now I have stopped until I go see the shrink to talk about meds. I plan on asking her how pot will effect what meds they give me and if I have to I'll quit all together. I do want it legal, but I also understand that there are many many more important things in life that marijuana, sorry swoop ;). Now don't get me wrong, those first couple of days not having it I can be a big edgy but after that it's not a problem. That's part of the reason I like it so much, it's easy to quit when needed...
Thanks for the concern though, everybody :)
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
did you get my email?
I'm at work right now and can't check mail until lunch. But I will go home and read them.....
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get your blood sugar checked.
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good idea Wotan.
Same symptoms hit me 5 years ago. Turned out to be a Type 2 cause. Under control now, but I had to give up flying :(
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I have the same tendencies. Here is what I've found for me personally (note I am not a MD):
Sleep is an important variable. A lot of people don't realize how much. When you're under stress you need more sleep than normal which paradoxically is more difficult to get when you're under stress. I need 8 hour Minimum. I function better on 9 hrs. Different people have different requirements. Not getting enough uninterrupted sleep can have subtle effects on your mood swings even if you don't feel groggy and tired. Also, your sleep schedule should be kept regular. Allow your body to balance out into a predictable rhythm. Staying up all night on the weekends partying just throws you out of balance the rest of the week. Booze will harm your sleep cycle. A lot of people think they go to sleep easier after a few drinks. They may start sleeping easier but they won't go into deep rem as easily. Without the rem you're wasting your time. On night you are really having trouble sleeping you could try Melatonin (natural supplement) or an over the counter sleep aid. Only use sleep aids on occasions, but it’s better than not sleeping. Most of them use the ingredient in allergy medicine that makes you so sleepy. They’re safe and non-habit forming and don’t leave you whacked out in the morning.
Exercise. It doesn’t have to be strenuous. A good brisk 30 min walk each evening can do wonders. It relieves stress and produces endorphins.
Make sure you’re getting all your vitamins. Especially B12. A supplement can’t hurt.
Also what Wotan said. Blood sugar swings can have a big effect. The biggest culprit is processed sugar. That toejam should be labeled a poison. Try cutting out all candy, cakes, ice-cream, donuts, etc for a couple of weeks. Try fruit, grapes etc instead. I like those Bluebell sugar free bullitpops. ;) Hmmm. You would be shocked at how much sugar is in a can of regular coke. :eek:
Also you my try “St. Johns Wort” a common natural supplement. It’s a natural anti-depressant. It takes a couple of weeks of regular use before it starts kicking in but it really does help.
Hope you start feeling better.
Regards,
Wab
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if you eat a lot of carbs as well they convert to insulin and boost your blood sugar levels. They produce a high. When you come down from this "high" it effects your mood.
Artificial sugars as well do this. Cokes and even some fruit drinks will boost your insulin levels.
Go to doctor have him check you out.
Diet and excersize can do alot but until you go to a doctor theres no telling.
If its a mental health thing (not to be judgmental in anyway, it happens) but the worse thing to do we be to "tough it out" and hope it goes away.
Depression is a real illness and it takes a real doctor to help figure it out.
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Thanks for the heads up Wotan.
Charon
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Originally posted by Udie
If anybody here has ever had problems with depression or manic depression, and has been put on medication for it, please email me spmcnulty@austin.rr.com
Been having way too many ups and downs for no reasons lately and I think maybe I got that toejam. Could use some advice.....
thanks....
Udie I don't know your full background, but it is common for people who used things like LSD and X at a young age to have mood disturbances for the rest of their life.
And be very careful if you decide to quit weed. It is almost 100% that people who smoke everyday for years will get seriously depressed if they quit. You will need to see a shrink.
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Udie,
Best advice on this bbs is to go see your Doctor. Tell him your past history including your MJ usage and let him check ya out. Depression is not a mark on your "worth as a human being" it is an ilness and ANYONE can get it. :eek:
I had it almost 17 years ago (real NASTY divorce) and the wife is fighting it as an adjunct to cancer treatments. Get checked out and use the stuff to get over it. Exercise is great but may not be the entire cure. Keep in touch bud, we're pulling for ya. The e-mail is on my profile if ya just want to talk. Having been there, I know what it's like.
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Ya probably ain't gonna want to hear it but:
drop the bong & the beer
eat right - fruit & vegs cut out the fast food/greazy crap
exercise regularly and hard - break a sweat, if you ain't sore the next day, you didn't lift enough - run
give it three months min (6 months better as good part of first 3 months will be like a de-tox )and see if you don't stable out
read more/watch tv less - especially news
what do you have to lose? you've done the other crap up to this point and see where it has gotten ya
:)
gl
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Have to agree with Eagler and the rest of the good suggestions throughout this thread Udie. I'm not afraid to admit that I've been on anti-depressants.
Years ago I went through the ups and downs, the weepies and the giggles. I ignored it for a long time until the downs started getting harsher. I too asked for help, but unfortunately I was a little slow in doing so and thankfully I was unsuccessful in attempting to end my life.
The call out for help is a big step that you have taken. You have recognized that there is a potential problem ahead, and at the very least your life is not behaving normally right now.
I'm no longer on anti-depressants, but I still get the sadness once in a while....know what I do? I exercise. Seriously, try a healthy dose of exercise and see if after a week of grueling painful muscle fatigue doesn't help balance out your mind.
Chemical imbalances in the brain are a tricky thing. You don't necessarily want to jump straight into anti-depressants to cure the misfiring your brain is doing right now. Just try to workout, cut out the alcohol and drugs, eat and sleep right. It's natural and it works. If you just had an operation, they should have done some sort of bloodwork even if it was minor, if not, go back to the doctor and get a physical.
Worse thing you could do is ignore what's happening. Don't let it go too long and keep us updated.
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Udie, my Friend!
Sorry for calling you a Friend, but it's what I feel about you.
I'll be 30 in 2 weeks. I fight the MD syndrome for years. Since college days.
The only cure for it that I had found is simple: WORK. Or I'd better call it "Duty".
Now I feel good only when I have urgent work, and have to work my bellybutton off to get what I want, and to satisfy my clients. Suddenly I discovered that I feel much better after spending a night at work then after drinking beer beside my old Soviet-times TV (hehe 24") at home.
Everyone needs something to distract his thoughts from his sour life. For me it was mountain-hiking. After we saved our group of 12-years old kids from freezing and drowning in the Caucasus wild mountain river - I find many problems only entertaining.
I want to invite you to Russia, to go fishing to some places you'll never get a chance to see ;) but it's August, ant winter begins there in two weeks... :( Only thing I can offer you is to take a vacation in most dangerous places of Moscow, Leningrad and Samara ;) I hope it will help.
How about selling cheap Izhevsk motorbikes and airguns in the US? :) Entertaining and bringing some money?!
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Udie, if you turn inta Ripsnort, I'll shoot yah myself. :D
Dunno what ails yah, hell I have no clue as to what ails me. What seems to keep me goin is 'changing' things.. my diet, my routine, my intrests.
It don't seem to help ME all that much, but between the farting, bein late and then early and returning all my fathers day presents every year sure keeps everybody ELSE around me guessin.. and THAT; my friend, always improves my morale.
Avoid long introspective contemplations of your navel. Dig too deep, and you'll run outta lint.
Now, cheer the hell up!
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Udie
No expert here but thought I'd share a bit of my experience. My wife is a diagnosed MD (rather severe at times). Finding the right medication/dosage/balance took about 3yrs of trial and error and even now she needs subtle changes now and then. Definately get yourself checked out and do NOT let it go and hope for the best... thats a very bad mistake IF you actually suffer from this problem. In our case, the MD thing took years to develop into something very very nasty, IMO it only get worse untreated. Get your exercise too... I've seen a simple walk around the block do wonders (especially when she's on a real downer).
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I don't think I'm going to get very old because I had my midlife at 25 .
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Originally posted by Eagler
Ya probably ain't gonna want to hear it but:
drop the bong & the beer
eat right - fruit & vegs cut out the fast food/greazy crap
exercise regularly and hard - break a sweat, if you ain't sore the next day, you didn't lift enough - run
give it three months min (6 months better as good part of first 3 months will be like a de-tox )and see if you don't stable out
read more/watch tv less - especially news
what do you have to lose? you've done the other crap up to this point and see where it has gotten ya
:)
gl
You gonna turn our poor Udie into a darn Liberal !!!
Get better Udie. And get more then 1 doctor's opinion. In this country diagnosis of mental illness seem to set world records. Next think you know, you're stoned out of your wits, legally.
GL
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Hmmm....Udie goes in for a "minor" procedure on his Winkie and then starts having mood swings, depression and extreme anxiety??? Udie, it's obvious what's wrong- Somebody switched charts with you and you are now officially a post- operative transexual. I know it was a dirty trick probably committed by a PETA activist to get even with you over killing fish, but look to the bright side, Udie- 1) You can now enter the women's division at Bass Master events and 2) You are a virgin again. And don't worry about the mood swings, bud. You're just PMS-ing- you'll feel better in a couple of days.
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Elfenwolf I thought you were in PETA's side you friggin traitor :mad:
And Udie did you recieve my email you turd fondler? Its pretty much the best of all the advice given here but longer and with more details.
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Who do you think switched Udie's chart? (I did it for the fishies.) I'd love to see the look on Udie's face when they take off the bandages. I hope "The Crying Game" is playing over the Intercom. I hope Udie has nice legs and looks good in Daisy Duke cut-offs.
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Elfenwolf... shut UP you pathetic idiot.... im getting a 'bit' horny when im reading it :D :D :D