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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wsnpr on August 23, 2002, 03:58:14 PM
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Yankee and/or Hitech,
Please email me (Iknow you're probably busy, but please do).
wsnpr@yahoo.con
Thank you!
OOPS, nevermind, I sent email :)
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Wouldn't it just be easier to email them?
Contact Email: info@hitechcreations.com
Billing Email: billing@hitechcreations.com
Support Email: support@hitechcreations.com
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Drop the shovel.
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Yeal let it slide dude.
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Wouldn't it just be easier to email them?
Contact Email: info@hitechcreations.com
Billing Email: billing@hitechcreations.com
Support Email: support@hitechcreations.com
LOL! Gee, thanks. Yes it would. LOL (doh!)
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I hope so:
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midnight, the next time you post something about freedom of speech, or the rights of the individual, or something like that Im gonna post that little picture for you to ponder over.
You saw what I wrote. You saw the results. There was no private email or message from me or from them, nothing except what everyone can see in that thread.
Fair?
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........... and the wisdom to hide well the bodies of those who pissed me off.
I like it this way better :D
And it is well said that discretion is the better part of valor.
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Dude, this is a private BBS, payed for by HTC. Free speech does not apply here, if they want you out, you are out. They never sensor anything you say or edit anything out. Everything is still there. But they have the right to kick you out. No free speech is getting violated here, its moot anyways.
And all just for a pair of boobs.
And Hortlund, werent you kicked? Yet you keep coming back like a stubbord tardling.
Originally posted by Hortlund3
midnight, the next time you post something about freedom of speech, or the rights of the individual, or something like that Im gonna post that little picture for you to ponder over.
You saw what I wrote. You saw the results. There was no private email or message from me or from them, nothing except what everyone can see in that thread.
Fair?
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Originally posted by Hortlund3
You saw what I wrote. You saw the results. There was no private email or message from me or from them, nothing except what everyone can see in that thread.
Yankee told you to cool it, but you thought she should change her behavior instead. You lose. This is HTCs house.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Hortlund3
midnight, the next time you post something about freedom of speech, or the rights of the individual, or something like that Im gonna post that little picture for you to ponder over.
You saw what I wrote. You saw the results. There was no private email or message from me or from them, nothing except what everyone can see in that thread.
Fair?
You had every right to say what you said Steve. I Even said in the "other" thread that I didn't think you were trying to be malicious.
HT and YANKEE OTOH have every right to kick you out too. This isn't a government operation here, its private enterprise (their house as Sikboy so eloquently puts it). If I were you I'd kiss their ..... er... hands and beg for forgiveness.
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Guys, Im not trying to claim some right to free speech or whatever, your rights doesnt apply to me anyway, Im not an American remember. If you look at what I wrote to midnight, I wasnt saying that I should have the right to post whatever I want either. The only thing I was saying was, look what I posted and look at the results.
Sikboy, she never said anything to me, you must have me confused with someone else. I didnt start that thread, I didnt post any picture of whatever.
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Is this kind of like the Halloween Movies?
Hortlund 4
Hortlund 5
Hortlund 6 a New Beginning
Hortlund 7 Stevie Returns
Hortlund 8 Son of Stevie
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Is this kind of like the Halloween Movies?
Hortlund 4
Hortlund 5
Hortlund 6 a New Beginning
Hortlund 7 Stevie Returns
Hortlund 8 Son of Stevie
ROFL!!!
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Hortlund if you're worried about your rights, what about me?
Evil americans are bullying me all the time for no reason.
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Nah, do the Star Wars theme instead, its more with my character
Hortlund -the BB menace
Hortlund2 -BB wars
Hortlund3 -??
Hortlund4 -A new hope
Hortlund5 -HTC strikes back
Hortlund6 -Return of the dweeb
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Originally posted by Hussein
Hortlund if you're worried about your rights, what about me?
Evil americans are bullying me all the time for no reason.
ROFL!!!! Poor Sadaam!
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Originally posted by Hortlund3
Nah, do the Star Wars theme instead, its more with my character
Hortlund -the BB menace
Hortlund2 -BB wars
Hortlund3 -??
Hortlund4 -A new hope
Hortlund5 -HTC strikes back
Hortlund6 -Return of the dweeb
ROFLOL!!!!!!! Can't wait for #6! :D
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Steve didnt see the original pic (which was porn). He saw the bikini pic.
So when he read where Yankee referred to the pic he saw as porn he asked what constituted porn. To him he saw a girl in a bikini.
And then got banned for it :rolleyes:.
He didnt even start the thread.
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He was banned because he kept arguing with me and I have friends in high places.
My reach extends far beyond your comprehension.
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i read the post and saw his remarks I dont care who your buddies are.
They may have mistook his question but either way they can do what they want its their game.
No need to bring the pom poms out
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No Sid/Ripley, you provide plenty of reasons. :D
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Originally posted by Animal
He was banned because he kept arguing with me and I have friends in high places.
My reach extends far beyond your comprehension.
Animal, you forgot:
((Evil grin))
and
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Just thought I'd point it out.
Daniel, aka Cyrano
PS: Having said so, I must add I don't think HT course of action was the right one, but I'm not running his company, so I'll just shut up and never ever post anything offensive to anyone and keep my porn to myself, thank you very much. :p
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Originally posted by Hortlund3
Sikboy, she never said anything to me, you must have me confused with someone else. I didnt start that thread, I didnt post any picture of whatever.
No, I'm not confused. Yankee said that it was inappropriate, and the very next post is you saying:
And perhaps people who dont want to see the wednesday babe should not open threads named "the wednesday babe"? Or is that just me being stupid?
It was an obvious challenge, and if it was a mistake, take it up in email, and not the court of public opinion.
-Sikboy
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The irony of this just has me shaking my head. The only place associated with AH that I have been truly offended, is the country buffer. And it is a near constant. But do I have the option to turn it off.? Not a chance.
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It was an obvious challenge, and if it was a mistake, take it up in email, and not the court of public opinion.
sikboy no offense but you know what you are talking about.
There was a nudie pic that was posted 1st. It was changed to a bikini pic.
Steve never saw the nudie pic.
Therefore he had some confusion as to what was considered porn. The girl in the bikini or what. See the confusion?
He wasnt arguing. He didnt see the original pic or he would have known what was up.
Curiosity killed the Hortlund in this case :)
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Originally posted by Wotan
sikboy no offense but you know what you are talking about.
No, I understand that Wotan. But when Yankee shows up and says that the content is inappropriate, saying (in the very next post) that perhaps she (implied) shouldn't open the page is in pretty bad taste.
If he was confused about what is or isn't porn, fine, that has no bearing on his saying;
And perhaps people who dont want to see the wednesday babe should not open threads named "the wednesday babe"? Or is that just me being stupid?
dress it up however you want.
-Sik
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because the wednsday babe thing has been going on for weeks. With bikini clad ugly women.
None those were locked or was anyone banned. It wasnt until a true nudie showed up.
Steve didnt see the nudie pic so he didnt understand the situation. It wasnt an arguement.
You can be a fan boi all you want but atleast aknowledge the facts.
I am not argueing one way or another about who gets banned for what. Thats hts call.
Just dont make stuff up.
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If you aren't going to even read my post, don't bother replying
-Sik
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Wotan,
Don't argue with siktard, it's a waste of time. As long as he gets to post what HE likes it makes no differance to what happens to anyone else. Facts are of no consequence to him. It's a self interest thing. If he looks like he's a big HT suporter he's less likely to be held to the same standard as Hortlund. (at least as far as he is concerned) :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes: i did read your post my reply was
Just dont make stuff up.
Now reread mine. Its clear HT viewed Steves misunderstanding about what was up as argueing thats his choice.
But that aint what was going on.
For weeks we had minger of week or whatever. There had been np. Steve checks a thread sees the same thing. He reads references to porn and unappropriate. He thinks I wonder who complained. Types a reply stating so. Hes then told porn is unexceptable on the bbs. He thinks porn? thats porn? Then types a question about was is considered porn.
Then gets banned.
You follow that?
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Originally posted by Maverick
Wotan,
Don't argue with siktard, it's a waste of time. As long as he gets to post what HE likes it makes no differance to what happens to anyone else. Facts are of no consequence to him. It's a self interest thing. If he looks like he's a big HT suporter he's less likely to be held to the same standard as Hortlund. (at least as far as he is concerned) :rolleyes:
Where do you come up with this stuff Maverick? :rolleyes:
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Lol, I had to look it up but it was worth it. The one time we crossed with facts in question, you were on the short side lol. Good job
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51945
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-Sik
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Originally posted by Wotan
:rolleyes: i did read your post my reply was
Now reread mine. Its clear HT viewed Steves misunderstanding about what was up as argueing thats his choice.
Then gets banned.
You follow that?
Steve said "if you don't like it, don't open it" and I believe that is what got him banned. Not his later post about what is or isn't porn.
-Sikboy
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Just posting to add :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Didn't seem like there were enough of them in some of the posts.
cobra
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Originally posted by Cobra
Just posting to add :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Didn't seem like there were enough of them in some of the posts.
I'd like to go on record as saying that :rolleyes: is the lamest, most overused emoticon on this entire BB, and individuals caught using it more than once in their lifetimes should be browbeaten to within inches of their lives. Or in the very least attach the use of such a worthless, overused item to severe electical shocks. Please, HTC?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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..is the lamest, most overused emoticon...
..'emoticon' ???
hehehhehhee..
'emoticon'
rofl..
..just sayin it cracks me up.
Thanks DMF.. damn, but I needed that.
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ROFLMAO!!
man that one got me LOL!!!!
Originally posted by midnight Target
Is this kind of like the Halloween Movies?
Hortlund 4
Hortlund 5
Hortlund 6 a New Beginning
Hortlund 7 Stevie Returns
Hortlund 8 Son of Stevie
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Heheh. Who do you think is going to win this little war?
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What Sikboy said, and look at the timestamps.
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Hortlund being booted for being his usual sarcastic ? Am i reading this right ? What a load of *****.... :mad:
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might I just add that the daily posting of racism/hatred posts in here are OK, but posting a tit or comenting on it is not ?
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Oh FFS.
At no time was a tit posted on this BBS.
What I posted was a link to an animated file of a girl who lifted her T-shirt when ya moved your mouse to the center of the screen. Hardly porn.
The only pic that was actually posted in the thread was by Sandman_SBM and was maybe a little close to porn but didnt actually show any of the bits. Take a look at some of the other wednesday minger threads and check out the pics posted in those.
Now everyone's talking about it as if I put a huge pic of a pair of tits in a thread that kiddies would read and people would get sacked for. Bollocks.
And judging by the number of emails I've had from people who missed the link and wanna check it out.......half the internet musta seen it by now.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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Muhahah its normal American stategy....
> when we do have problem, remove the one whos point on the problem and the one who is looking for the roots of problem. <
Do you remember that fun on 13 or 14 of September ? :rolleyes:
btw thanks for your $500 000 i hope they will use them well :D
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Originally posted by Hortlund3
Nah, do the Star Wars theme instead, its more with my character
Hortlund -the BB menace
Hortlund2 -BB wars
Hortlund3 -??
Hortlund4 -A new hope
Hortlund5 -HTC strikes back
Hortlund6 -Return of the dweeb
ROFL :D :D :D
dont stay behind :cool:
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Hortlund im sry for u getting banned and IMHO I think its an over- reaction!
Mate
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Hortlund being booted for being his usual sarcastic ? Am i reading this right ? What a load of *****.... :mad:
You got it right, Saw. You think is BS?
So I do. And this hasn't been the first overreaction by HTC in the boards...but IMHO it has been the most severe, by far. Someone went too far banning someone who was FAR from deserving it.
Now I only hope they will be honest enough to admit it and unban Hortlund so he can keep posting as usual.
my 0.02$
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Originally posted by Saintaw
might I just add that the daily posting of racism/hatred posts in here are OK, but posting a tit or comenting on it is not ?
The American way, Saw, the american way.....
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I can't speak for Hortlund but these are the facts as I see them:
1) He never saw the Pics because of his first post stated this:
Is the picture removed? Or is this wednesday babe a small dot...like this one --> .
(And perhaps people who dont want to see the wednesday babe should not open threads named "the wednesday babe"? Or is that just me being stupid?)
His second part of his quote (IMHO) was mild sarcasm. Hardly a 'slap in the face.'
2) I can't speak for him but I didn't know that Yankee was an administrator making an official request. I just thought it was a concerned adult about the direction these 'Wednesday Babe' threads were going. When I read posts I hardly look at the fine print of the person posting, usually just the content of their message. I can't recall ever seeing a post by Yankee before.
3) His second and final post reinforces that he never saw the pic:
Do you mean porn like in "porn" or porn like in "oh no, that woman is only wearing underwear and that bothers me because [insert whatever reason]"?
Again mildly sarcastic, but come on, hardly worthy of being banned!
4) Then to top it all off:
Gentlemen, Clean it up.
Hortland:
When one of our staff ask you to refrain, I strongly suggest you do. Slap anyone here in the face again and you will nolonger be here.
HiTech
HiTech issues a warning of banishment if "Slap anyone here in the face again and you will nolonger be here." So HiTech issues a warning and then bans Hortlund anyway.
As most of you are aware, Hortlund and I are polar opposites on most of the issues he and I have 'debated' so I am not 'saving' a squaddie, buddy, etc.
On the face of it, it appears that some over-reactions have taken place. Could it be because maybe HiTech and Yankee could be putting in some long, hard hours in bringing us this great product of AcesHi. If that were the case, it would be understandable how one could be under stress and over-reacted in this matter.
Understandable, yes. Right, it is not. This sort of reminds me of a totalitarian, fascist dictatorship. A single person (Hortlund) has been singled out for banishment when more could be banned for much, much worse.
I do realize that this is a private, non-govt enterprise. I do feel though as it is public and based in the US it might be condusive to follow in the spirit of the Bill of Rights. Yankee and HiTech, what message are we sending our young players? That it is ok to ban someone that discents an opinion? That to debate is wrong? Mind you, I have no problems of bannishment of those that deserve of such (threats, foul language, racsism, posting PORN) as we need to protect those who are underage.
Please reinstate Hortlund, lets all chaulk this one up for experience, and let by-gones be by-gones.
Thank you for your time.
Best regards and ~S~!
wSNPR
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Whatever the pic was is immaterial . Argue with the umpire and you'll get thrown out of the game .
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Yeah, it's perfectly ok to post a pic of a pilot mooning with his naked butt against the canopy but it's not ok to comment on a pic of a girl in bikini, :rolleyes: (sorry DMF)
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Originally posted by Apar
Yeah, it's perfectly ok to post a pic of a pilot mooning with his naked butt against the canopy but it's not ok to comment on a pic of a girl in bikini, :rolleyes: (sorry DMF)
Its a ncessary evil, if boobies become too common they kind of looser their allure.
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What part of "private BBS owned and run by HTC" do you fellas not understand?
This is almost as funny as JoeDirte squeaking and moaning about being muted.
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ht can do what he wants that aint the point. None is saying he cant. They are saying that in comparison with what else has been posted on this board and in game it seems a bit much.
To say steve was arguing is just not true I dont care who says it.
He just didnt understand the nature of the original pic. Had he seen it he most likely would not have said anything.
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So can I Sling, I can cancel my account anytime, ;)
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sandman said he got the boot too.
:(
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This is getting funny.
We started with a topic that, like it or not, can be a very offensive issue in American society. Sure, many topics run through this BBS every day, but this one caused the powers that be to say, "desist". Now we are all the way to how America is evil. You guys are a riot!
Sorry to tell you, but I didn't read Yankee's post to say she wanted any help in this decision. It seemed pretty clear to me the message was "Drop it now". Of course the second any BBS moderator moderates, the free-speech goon squad will descend and tell you what the person said wasn't so bad, or "Look at those guys", etc. You have had examples before, many, many times before, where someone had to stick in one more word and got themselves a vacation. Some of them took it, some of them had to keep recreating personnas and get "one more say".
Like it or not, the warning was for everyone, and the situation was very tense. It was the worst possible moment for someone to drop in sarcasm, and I suspect they were just waiting for the first fool to open his/her mouth in a negative way. A free-speecher getting his/her back up over a censoring is as sure a thing as me being called a cheerleader for posting the obvious.
As to the racism discussion? You guys are way out there on that one. The discussion went back and forth, but never were racial slurs hurled at anyone. It was pretty much an adult conversation about a current event. The opinions ran the gamut, but never did anyone get out of hand, unless of course it's merely the word "racism" that got you guys thinking it was a bad discussion.
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Originally posted by Apar
So can I Sling, I can cancel my account anytime, ;)
Go ahead....I appreciate the bandwidth. :) Nobody is forcing you to stay. If you are so warped as to cancel your account because Hortlund got the boot from the BBS over issuing a challenge to a moderator....then have at it. No matter how you sugarcoat it and try to rationalize it, basically what he did was challenge a moderator.
The really sad part is that instead of taking his lumps and coming back in a couple of weeks, he makes new accounts and keeps pushing the issue. This kind of action, IMO is just begging for being booted from more than just the BBS.
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Don't flatter yourself Sling, you're not worth me leaving, ;)
Neither is any other player.
Point is, that it is getting a bit vague what one can or cannot say on this BBS (apart from general internet CoC).
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Originally posted by Apar
Point is, that it is getting a bit vague what one can or cannot say on this BBS
No it isnt....but if one of the HTC staff tells you that you stepped over the line you damn well better not push the limits. If it were me, I would expect the same treatment that Hortlund got.
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Hortland has RAM on his side now..a sure a sign of total failure of a cause as I have ever seen...
just testing my new sig
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Steve, as much as I disagree with your political point of view I always enjoy the exchanges we have. I think you got jobbed and I agree there's been posts by others more deserving of banishment.
Just because this is Hi Tech's board doesn't make him automatically right, it just makes him the boss. Now in fairness to Dale I've only seen him interfere twice on the bbs before and both times it was warranted. I hope you stick around, blow this off and keep on posting your same conservative lies and half truths as you always and in return MT and the rest of us Libs will continue to answer your lies and half truths with lies and half truths from leftist sources.
Sorry it happened to ya, Steve, and stick around. .
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Originally posted by Staga
The American way, Saw, the american way.....
God Bless America. Amen
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huh ? sorry Ammo, spewing hate is ok, but a tit/sarcastic comment is not ?
please tell me i understand wrong
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I hope you stick around, blow this off and keep on posting your same conservative lies and half truths as you always and in return MT and the rest of us Libs will continue to answer your lies and half truths with lies and half truths from leftist sources.
Ditto.
We are rooting for you Horturd, waiting for this to be settled so you can come back and I can keep slamming my fist against the desk and growling "HOW STUPID THIS FASCIST IS!"
You never appreciate what you have until you have lost it :(
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Where is this hate spewing and racism on the boards that I'm hearing about ?
A sarcastic comment to the moderate is fine and ok if your intent is to get banned . But please, keep poking the bear with your stick, don't let any of us disuade you .
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Hortland, I heard someone say that, you've changed your mind, and no longer believe that the Russians committed any autrocities during WW2. Is this true?
What about the rumour, that you've sent midnight targut a e-mail, saying that he was right about everything all along and that you then proclaimed you're undying love for him?
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Yes, Saintaw, please point to where the hate is being spewed.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
huh ? sorry Ammo, spewing hate is ok, but a tit/sarcastic comment is not ?
please tell me i understand wrong
Huh? I would love to tell you what you understand wrong, but I dont understand your point.
staga threw a blanket jab (rediculous) at Americans and our way of life. I say ..whatever. I sure dont care for this liberalistic attitude that there are no bounds whatsoever to free speech, to include slander, filth, and whatever depths of scum some people think is just "free speech". Manners, morals, and common decency, where have those attributes gone.
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Exactly my thoughts, Ammo, and why I posted earlier in the thread.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
huh ? sorry Ammo, spewing hate is ok, but a tit/sarcastic comment is not ?
please tell me i understand wrong
Saw, you filthy Belgian, waffle eating poop-head, why don't you go boil your bottom, son of a silly person. We don't need your kind around here!
SOB
Hate is great, but titties are better.
PS...This is one of the most retarded threads I have ever seen. Bravo! - I'm glad I could be a part of it!
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Originally posted by Swoop
Oh FFS.
Take a look at some of the other wednesday minger threads and check out the pics posted in those.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
No way Swoop! I've looked at seven of your "mingers". Four times I've vomited on my keyboard, twice I've fainted dead away and that last one- the weightlifter chick with the crazy eyes- has confused me gerderally and I can no longer function sexually. I'm amazed Yankee would risk her corneas looking at some of the hideous skanks you've posted here, Swoop. Personally I think ALL Brits should be banned from the bbs. After all, bbs are an American invention.
Heya Maverick, Just because Sikboy makes the observation that Hi Tech is not only a splended physical specimen of a man but also uncommonly brilliant doesn't make him a suck-up. I've noticed these very same traits in Hi Tech.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Heya Maverick, Just because Sikboy makes the observation that Hi Tech is not only a splended physical specimen of a man but also uncommonly brilliant doesn't make him a suck-up. I've noticed these very same traits in Hi Tech.
I knew I heard a sound like a giant vacuum cleaner sucking up around here!! :D
Got to change your name to Hoover.
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there would be less porn pick posting if people actually read y the rules
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Hortland, I heard someone say that, you've changed your mind, and no longer believe that the Russians committed any autrocities during WW2. Is this true?
What about the rumour, that you've sent midnight targut a e-mail, saying that he was right about everything all along and that you then proclaimed you're undying love for him?
hehehe look at Thrawn taking a cheap shot at me when Im banned. Man...do you steal candy from kids too? :D
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Originally posted by Kieran
Yes, Saintaw, please point to where the hate is being spewed.
Try to dig up one of the old posts from around 9-12 2001...
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hehe, if you think that type of reaction was out of line given the date, you really are out of touch with American life. I don't have to dig it up, I know what was there.
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Well, one could say that "hate was being spewed" back then perhaps?
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I missed a nudie?
Dang!
Day late and a dollar short!!
:)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Hortland, I heard someone say that, you've changed your mind, and no longer believe that the Russians committed any autrocities during WW2. Is this true?
What about the rumour, that you've sent midnight targut a e-mail, saying that he was right about everything all along and that you then proclaimed you're undying love for him?
ROFL!!!! Can we say "When hell freezes over?" ;)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Hortland, I heard someone say that, you've changed your mind, and no longer believe that the Russians committed any autrocities during WW2. Is this true?
What about the rumour, that you've sent midnight targut a e-mail, saying that he was right about everything all along and that you then proclaimed you're undying love for him?
All true. Thanks Steve. Big hugs all around.
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NO!! I AM SPARTICUS!
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Ok, I give. You're a nut. If you are trying to make the case that the high emotions displayed in the wake of the worst attack on U.S. soil in almost 60 years is in any way comparable to the remark that got you banned, what can anyone tell you?
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Originally posted by Hangtime
NO!! I AM SPARTICUS!
"Do ya like gladiator movies jimmy?"
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Originally posted by Kieran
This is getting funny.
Like it or not, the warning was for everyone, and the situation was very tense. It was the worst possible moment for someone to drop in sarcasm, and I suspect they were just waiting for the first fool to open his/her mouth in a negative way. A free-speecher getting his/her back up over a censoring is as sure a thing as me being called a cheerleader for posting the obvious.
This is true, yet due to the lack of really knowing what "the other side" was thinking makes both sides look really stupid. Nobody wins.
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Originally posted by Kieran
Ok, I give. You're a nut. If you are trying to make the case that the high emotions displayed in the wake of the worst attack on U.S. soil in almost 60 years is in any way comparable to the remark that got you banned, what can anyone tell you?
I didnt say that.
You asked if there had been a situation on these boards where hate had been spewed around. I gave one example.
Your original question had nothing to do with me, neither had my answer anything to do with me or the present situation. You asked a question, I answered it. Somehow that bothers you.
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Originally posted by Apar
Point is, that it is getting a bit vague what one can or cannot say on this BBS (apart from general internet CoC).
The topic of thread is immaterial, it could've been a discussion about the fabulous horn-o-plenty of colors that is Crayola crayons . What got dude banned was being sarcastic to the moderator .
Don't give them any sassback, how vague is that ?
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Ok, I give. You're a nut. If you are trying to make the case that the high emotions displayed in the wake of the worst attack on U.S. soil in almost 60 years is in any way comparable to the remark that got you banned, what can anyone tell you?
So the cause rectifies the means???
I would be very careful with that ;)
You cannot tell the state somebody is in when he posts Kieran, that goes for many other posts not related to 9/11 too.
P.S. No disrespect intended to any US citizens for what happened on 9/11, that was horrible.
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Originally posted by Kieran
This is getting funny.
Sorry to tell you, but I didn't read Yankee's post to say she wanted any help in this decision. It seemed pretty clear to me the message was "Drop it now".
Im not from America, so i dont know hows it work there....
but older told me, when i do any mistake, i should say that and apologize .... doesnt metter if i did mistake in good or bad convince
if you will drop every situation like this, you will have more silly and stupid situation like 9/11 ... why why how is that possible ??? naa just drop it.........
Just simple sentense by HTC.... It was misunderstanding from both side, we are sorry .... im pretty sure, that Hrot will say the same and problem is gone and never will cause next problem .....
Wotan already explained hows that happen ..... I have to laugh here its like situation in nursery school
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Originally posted by Eaglecz
..... I have to laugh here its like situation in nursery school
Finally figured out the AH board didja?? lol
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
No way Swoop! I've looked at seven of your "mingers". Four times I've vomited on my keyboard, twice I've fainted dead away and that last one- the weightlifter chick with the crazy eyes- has confused me gerderally and I can no longer function sexually.
Well duh. That's the point of the mingers.......it's the other pics posted in those threads by other posters I'm referring to.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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Poop, you posted a link to a chick flipping out her tits.
Tard group your new found email friends, but Geesus, have some respect for your self. Certainly HTC isn't as impressed. They were not, and respectfully said so.
One would expect HTC's reaction, as most would just laugh at your adamant constant interest in keeping this 'fool' post afloat.
But it’s getting old.
Move on. It's OK.
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Originally posted by Kieran
Yes, Saintaw, please point to where the hate is being spewed.
Any of the middle East discussions about israel/palestinians has a lot to be pointed at.
I could point at literally hundreds of examples of evident hate being posted in this board. Racial comments poked in fun and not-so much fun. Even games consisting on killing citizens with a suicide bomb-man (posted in good fun, of course, but who cares?...wasn't that pic posted in good fun or what?)
Want me to point you at hatred in this boards.?. Read it by yourself. Is not difficult to find.
Now...Sandman was booted too?. Nice....see, even Animal posted once PORN PICS in this same board once, don't you recall it?. The message was deleted and he was warned but not booted.
Now, Sandman has been booted. Animal wasn't. I don't say Animal should've been banned.. He shouldn't. But if he wasn't ,why now is Sandman out of this board?...
maybe because he got also caught in the tide of the Hortlund's banning?
Like it or not, This is NOT a discussion about freedom of speech. this is about an unfair banning, caused by the overreaction of a moderator ;that has turned into a FLAGRANT lack of justice from the side of HTC by not reversing the banning when it's clear that Hortlund was far from deserving the boot (and Sandman too).
This is about a FAR too harsh treatment to an innocent comment . this is about unequal treatment. This is about all that, but not about freedom of speech.
And about the "point me at hatred in this board"...do you REALLY want me to do it?. Because I will if you want.
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What a bunch of crap. Believing that this decision is even up for debate is ludicrous.
A guy smarted off to a moderator and got the boot....get over it. He would probably have been back in 2 weeks if he would have just let it drop. Now with his coming back multiple times with different names...who knows what kind of actions HTC will take now.
As far as Sandman goes....he did make some comments in the original thread that can be construed as baiting or trolling or whatever you want to call it. Prolly not the wisest thing to do considering the way the thread was panning out. For his efforts, he received a time-out....its not like they sent out a hit squad or anything.
:rolleyes: <----inserted just for DMF ;)
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RAM is still posting here and Sandman can't. You're right, that's not fair .
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No doubt Yankee got pissed off over this and I can understand why. She probably had a watermelon load of crap to get through on a Friday afternoon and, instead of finishing up her workload and starting her weekend she's caught up in a debate over rather porn is appropiate on these bbs. I imagine she got pissed off- I know I would and most here probably would.
Not to mention the fact she has to work for Hi Tech. Don't let those puppy dog eyes and that goofy grin fool you- Dale is the Martha Stewart of flight sim operators. Superfly e-mails me often with horror stories about Dale freaking out if they run out of creamer for the coffee or someone hangs a roll of toilet paper the wrong way. Superfly said that once Hi Tech made him stand facing the corner with a dunce cap on, and another time Hi Tech got mad at Yankee and spanked her.
Unfair? Sure, but as the "banning" is actually little more than an inconvience all arguements are on a philosophical basis only. This is between Hortlund, SM, Yankee and Hi Tech and should be handled privately. Likewise if anyone wishes to comment they should email Yankee or Hi Tech expressing their opinion- I did, and that's much more effective than posting a rant on these bbs.
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Nah, I think Rrrrrraaaam oughta organize a mob to storm the HTC offices and drag the crew kicking and screaming into the streets for a good old-fashioned lynching. After all, that's what their actions merited. ;)
....or the people who feel the stab of injustice can start and moderate their own BBSs any darn way they like...
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you asked saw to point at where was hate spewed. I did it for him and told you where to look at. I also said why do I think that this issue has gone way out of hand, and why is unfair for the banned people.
So in the end I did just what you were asking someone to do. And now you pull out this kind of toejam on me. Amazing.
Kieren, I expected hypocresy from many people. Not from you tho. I guess people never like to realize how wrong they are. But I always thought you were one of those who were fairly objective.
Well, now I know one thing more about this board and about people in general :).
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Originally posted by RRAM
Kieren, I expected hypocresy from many people. Not from you tho. I guess people never like to realize how wrong they are. But I always thought you were one of those who were fairly objective.
Well, now I know one thing more about this board and about people in general :).
You're right Ram. I think we can only come to one conclusion. Hortlund has kidnapped Kieren and hijacked his BBS account, in order to get his daily fix.
I recommend that HTC cancel "Kieren's" account immediately.
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No, Ram, the point is escaping you- I am not for one second arguing the fairness of the bannings, or what relative measure should be applied to judging when someone should be banned. I am saying (as are many others) that it doesn't matter why you might get asked to cool it, it only matters that if the HTC crew does say "Cool it!", you do so forthwith, without the probing questions.
Now here we are nearing 100 posts and for some the point remains elusive. It doesn't matter if it was fair. It only matters a warning was given, and some chose to push their luck. Whether or not it was a misunderstanding is moot.
FWIW, I am not defending the HTC stance, nor do I care what rules or in what manner they police their own boards. I do know there is a uniformity to their application of justice that seems pretty consistant to me, and am only sorry it isn't obvious to you. I do however refuse to get into a circular argument about how one action stands relative to another, who should have been banned, who shouldn't etc.
Maybe I made a mistake asking for the posting of hate made by one of the free-speechers. I do know the reference to 9/11 as an example is hilarious. I also know you can post lots of threads where you got your feelings hurt, just as I know I could never show you how you brought much of that on yourself.
Still, that has absolutely nothing to do with the pattern of HTC warning us to desist and banning the first person to smart off or question the decision- or has that escaped you?:confused:
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...Oh, and for the record, I have hosted and moderated BBSs. You put up with a lot of crap from folks, and it doesn't matter what standards you put up, someone has to always push. For some people it is a game to know just where the boundaries are so they can push just over them, and then argue how they hadn't crossed the line, or how they were treated unfairly, or how you are a despot for stifling free speech, etc. Then you get a bunch of others that argue back and forth whether the action is just, deserved, etc..... exactly what you see here.
Fact is, sooner or later if you moderate you have to moderate, and the second you do you are the bad guy. There's always some genius that knows exactly what should have been done and how it should happen, but by some twist of fate that genius has never hosted or moderated a BBS himself.
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What the hell is this thread about?
:eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :confused:
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I would just like to add nothing to this thread.
Thank you very much.
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Originally posted by hblair
I would just like to add nothing to this thread.
Thank you very much.
That post is similar to every other one in this thread.
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Bah, this thread can only end when someone finally posts the "Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics..." pic.
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(http://www.se7en-x.com/argue/argue.jpg)
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Thanks, Animal!
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I just got an e-mail from Superfly and I feel it's my duty to pass it on to all of you...
Dear Elfenwolf,
I am writing this email to you to relate just how badly the day went for all of us at Hi-Tech Creations on Friday and to offer a partial excuse for the subsequent banishment of Sandman and Hortlund.
Hi-Tech had trouble getting to work when one of his sedan chair bearers twisted an ankle and had to be replaced with Nate Dog. The problem with that is that Nate Dog is a midget and could barely reach the pole supporting Hi Tech's sedan chair, much less offer any help in carrying him. As a result Hi Tech fell out of the chair and scraped his nose on the asphalt. Needless to say he tried to beat Nate Dog with his septer, but Nate Dog has been here a long long time and he's pretty good at dodging blows and thrown objects in spite of the long flowing Monk robe Hi Tech makes him wear.
So they show up an hour late and Hi Tech is pissed off because his manicurist got tired of waiting and left so he comes in without speaking to any of us and goes directly to his private office, slamming the door behind him. We had no sooner given a collective sigh of relief that he would sit in his office and surf porn sites all day instead of making our lives hell when his door bursts open and he's screaming at Yankee because he found a green M&M in his bowl. See, Hi Tech HATES green M&Ms and it's Yankee's job to take all the green M&M's out of his bowl every morning.
We all knew what's going to happen next- Yankee is going to get a spanking. We all averted our eyes as Hi Tech stands ranting at Yankee- well, all except Nate Dog, who hopped off his chair and crawled under his desk- but like I said, Nate Dog is pretty smart for a midget and he knew Hi Tech would throw the bowl of M&M's at us. And throw it he did, and those M&M's felt like buckshot he threw them so hard.
So he ordered Nate Dog to fetch his riding crop, bade Yankee bend over his lap as we all stood in a semi circle as forced witnesses to poor Yankee's public humiliation as he administered a dozen or so whacks across her butt with the riding crop. Then he demanded another bowl of M&M's and disapeared back into his office behind a slamming door.
No matter how many times Hi Tech spanks Yankee or makes Nate Dog do that stupid little dance like a chicken he finds so uprouriously funny when he's been drinking there's always an embarassed silence afterwards among the employees. We averted our eyes from Yankee, whose tears of humiliation and angry sobs through clinched teeth were audible throughout the room as she seperated the green M&M's from several fresh bags.
That was when we got the phone call from Creamo complaining about pornography on the bbs. Yankee took the call, became enraged and asked all to refrain from any further such posts. While Yankee was firing off her warning Hi Tech came out of his office in search of his new bowl of M&M's, saw that Yankee was busy addressing the O'Club issues of pornography and hadn't finished sorting the M&M's and HE freaked out, banned Hortlund and Sandman for talking back and spanked Yankee again for taking so long on the M&M's.
Elfenwolf, I'm writing this to you because you are the brightest of the O'Club posters and everybody respects and admires your opinion. Please tell your fellow posters not to hate Yankee because she's just trying to do her job without getting spanked. And don't blame Dale either. He's lived the rock star life for so long now that he actually believes he is ordained by God. Thank you for allowing me to explain.
Your pal,
Superfly
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If you can't say something in poor taste then don't say anything at all.
I'm thinking deep thoughts.
ow.
ow.
ow.
ok, i'm done now. my pre-cognitive dissonance tells me that elfie was a brave terrier in a past life. one that started barkin trash at a german shepard and wound up as tufts of wiry hair in a big dog turd.
live by the sword... ;)
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Elfenwolf...
Best post, ever...
"Needless to say he tried to beat Nate Dog with his septer..."
/me pictures hitech walking around with a velvet cape and an ivory and gold septer...
(http://www.dressesbylilia.com/accessories/images/septer_lg.jpg)
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Originally posted by jbroey3
What the hell is this thread about?
:eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :confused:
Why, it's about X-Plane, of course!
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Elfenwolf, I'm writing this to you because you are the brightest of the O'Club posters
I believed it really was from Superfly until I read this line. Now I'm not so sure. It could be a fake. Hmmmmm......
Cobra
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Would posting pics of those spankings be consi...
naw, better stop while I can!
:D
(good stuff Elf! almost got me fired for laughing again)
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Nice comic releif
And just adding to this thread so I can be in HiTech & Yankees crosshairs, just like the rest of yas! :D
Silly banishment, in my opinion.
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elfenwood typed that from his cave in afganistan where HTC forces are hunting him as we speak...
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I got your back Elfie.... you keep sniping and I'll keep sitting here with the spotting scope ticking off the hits.
Well someone has to keep score! What will we write on the tombstone if we don't?
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Is it wrong to get a woody from reading elfs post?
lazs
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it falls under the "too much information' clause
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Originally posted by lazs2
Is it wrong to get a woody from reading elfs post?
lazs
definately not natural.
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Elfenwolf - that was the funniest post I've ever read on this BBS. Ever.
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really?
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actually, it's not as funny as the pop-out hooters/sweater girl mouse excercise that sparked multiple banishments, indignant finger wagging, much pre-pubescent glee and some red faces (and possibly pink bottoms) that this whole 100+ post thread was all about in the first place...
...but it's close.
;)
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Had to be a part of the longest thread about nothing.
This should be a Seinfield episode.
Now it is one post longer.
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Originally posted by Eaglecz
Im not from America, so i dont know hows it work there....
but older told me, when i do any mistake, i should say that and apologize .... doesnt metter if i did mistake in good or bad convince
if you will drop every situation like this, you will have more silly and stupid situation like 9/11 ... why why how is that possible ??? naa just drop it.........
Just simple sentense by HTC.... It was misunderstanding from both side, we are sorry .... im pretty sure, that Hrot will say the same and problem is gone and never will cause next problem .....
Wotan already explained hows that happen ..... I have to laugh here its like situation in nursery school
I guess I'll admit at this point I have no idea what the point was here...
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What are the chances that HT and Yankee are even bothering to read this thread?
I'm thinkin pretty slim.
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Originally posted by Kieran
I guess I'll admit at this point I have no idea what the point was here...
Good epitah for the whole thread.
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I'm still getting a faint pulse........
Cobra
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I can't believe I ate the whole thing..
Tronsky7
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Originally posted by Dowding
Elfenwolf - that was the funniest post I've ever read on this BBS. Ever.
I find most of your posts much funnier :)
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"definately not natural.
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ammo"
oh.... well then... I'm gald that it didn't happen to me. It was a friend of mine that wanted to know.
lazs
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Oh Well,
at least this postlet'S me see some of you guys a bit different :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Oh, yes I agree with SOB about the quality :)