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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: moose on August 23, 2002, 05:54:28 PM
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Here's my netstat little buddy
How do like them apples?
Next time keep your mouth shut and accept the . It was a good fight but you definitely don't know how to fight a 109 with co-energy.
Cyas.
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Gee Ruuke, you sure know how to make friends.
BTW I still suck, thanks.
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Hiya Moose. Sorry I had to bail on the base defense after only one sortie.
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its all good, they just kept sending p51s who would kamikazi the town
according to dr ruuke, i am a noob, lagwhoring idiot
and he owns me, even though i shot his niki down after circle climbing over him
i threw an on chan1 and received a load of crap from him about what a dweeb i am. thought it was humorous at the time.
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This Typhoon / P-51D / P-47D-30 suicide mission with two 1,000lbers is BS.
This is supposed to be more fun than heavy bombers with lazer guided bombs were? At least the bombers would usually try to live and fight back. Now its just losers in fast fighters with bombs doing nearly uninterceptable kamikaze runs.
I hope Lazs is happy.
(Mind you, I do not want lazer guided bombs from buffs, but I do want something to fix the suicide Jabo issue).
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At least the bombers would usually try to live and fight back.
lol right.
These are the same guys that would fly 3k bombers over a field and suicide a hanger. Now they cant hit anything so they moved on to next best thing.
They are more fun to watch argering then it was to watch the fluffs. Because before 1 fluff could do the same thing. Now the need 2 fighters per structure :)
Besides the jabo auger raids were a part of the main prior to 1.10. Now theres just more off um because bombing is to hard for umm.
nice try though.
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Yup lots more Jabo argure dudes, Heck somtimes I miss judge and die even as practiced as I am, but The sucide dweeb will allways be a part of the game. To quote a wise man:
"They know thier dweebs, and they don't care"
Wotan Aug. 2002
I still LOL when I think of hearing him say on Voice:)
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Originally posted by brady
"They know thier dweebs, and they don't care"
Wotan Aug. 2002
So true.
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Wotan,
OK, whatever. I never observed a suicide buff. I did once (in more than two years of playing AH) have a B-17G pilot bail out before I got in range to shoot him. Pissed me off to the point were I almost shot his chute.
In the last week alone I have seen five mass attacks by kamikaze Jabos.
Whine and insinuate what you will, but I know the frequency of this crap is way, way up.
And no, it isn't any more enjoyable to watch this kind of stuff than it is to watch a Lanc at 35k pinpoint blast all the FHs. They are both ed up acts.
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Originally posted by Karnak
(Mind you, I do not want lazer guided bombs from buffs, but I do want something to fix the suicide Jabo issue).
Only way to stop suicide jabo is to make some other "unrealistic" tactic the best.
I still think that buffs wiping out fields is a hell of a lot less unrealistic than jabos. It might be cool to perk the 1000lb bombs slightly on jabos. 1 perk each or something. Helps to open up the ordnance gap between the buffs and the jabos. Hell you could even give the p38 the 2000lb bombs for a couple of perks each.
Do this, and you end up with suicide a-20s, b26s. You end up with divebombing lancasters and b17s, which we're already seeing.
Anyways, dropping bombs on an airfield without getting killed is easy. Most of the people who die are just handsomehunkes, compress, and cant pull out.
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When you see 15 Tiffies all dive in and die without pulling up I don't think its because they're all handsomehunkes who compressed and couldn't pull out when they tried to. Especially not when you see the same group do it repeatedly.
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I am not happy with the sucidal typhoons eitherm but here is a few sugestions on how to prevent/stop it:
1) Just perk the bombs.
2) Give each bomb a 10 perk value. If you up, you bombs hit your target, and you RTB, you get the 10 perks back. If you up, bombs hit your target, then you get killed A2A you get 10 perks back. If you up, sucide a hanger, you loose all perks.
3) Toughen up the hangers
Personally, I would like #2.
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The suicide typh have need going on fer a long time karnak. Suiciding cvs has gone on a long time.
A suicide buff is any bomber that comes in at 6 k to kill a hanger knowing he will be killed.
You are whining about something that has always been then pointing the finger at something that really has nothing to do with it.
We all knew that once the bomber model was made a relatively "harder" that some of those who claimed to be buff pilots would move on.
I am not insinuating anything. I telling you straight out. The same suicide bomber pilots are now suicide jabo pilots. Theres was already a group of suicide jabo pilots out there prior to 1.10. Now they are a bit larger.
I dont think your "bomb factory x = reduce structure x" will change this. It will make it easier for the suicide crew.
I remember being in the tower in 1.08 watching a raid of rook jugs attack a field I counted 9 before I stopped, all suicided. Half dropped their bombs to low they didnt even explode.
You simply dont know what you are talking about if you think this is a new thing.
But its their game they can have fun how ever they find it.
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Wotan,
You are correct that my proposed bomber system would have no effect at all on this. It wasn't designed with any counter to this in mind.
The reason I doubt your version of events is that I never saw suicide bombers. If the MA had been full of suicide bombers I think I'd have noticed, and if that were the case I'd agree with your assesment of events. However, I saw a bunch of bomber drivers who weren't suicide prone. It doesn't make sense that they'd suddenly stop trying to survive.
Yes, I know the Kamikaze Jabo (isn't that a charming confluence of Axis terms) has been with AH for a long time, we;ve all seen it many, many times. I've just never seen nearly as much of it as I have in the last two weeks.
Here is my theory as to what caused it:
The fighter fliers who are into base capture suddenly found that the bomber fliers were no longer taking out the FHs and VHs like they were used to, instead the bomber guys were out doing whatever they are doing to transition out of bombers. So in desparation to gain the effect the bombers used to supply, these base capture oriented fighter jocks turned to Kamikaze Jabo as a solution.
I know there is a Bishop Tiffe squad that is infamous for this tactic and has been for a long time, but I have never defended against them. The last two were both Knight attacks and used P-47D-3os and P-51Ds. I'm sure there are Rook groups that commit this dweebishness as well, though as a Rook it is less apparent to me who they are.
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Oh man!
Worst hijack, ever!
You guys are pansies. Ruuke would own you all.
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Rookie from AirWarrior flying a Niki?..
Moose we may have a contender. :D
On edit: He split low on a co-alt merge he in a F4U me in P51D..
I won..
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I saw the funniest thing I've seen in AH for a while. Right up there with the "Gunman vs Addition" incident.
I'm landing at a nit field, and see two P38's coming in hard, thinking they were going to vulch me I started to worry. But no, they were Kamekazi Jabo's, in they dove... their planes pack with explosives and 1000lbers... ready to unleash their devastating power on ... the field hangar??? You, the one that looks like the VH but is on the field, and its where you go to select your plane. The one thats of absolutely no value whatsoever.
;) tards.
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You guys really need some beer.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I saw the funniest thing I've seen in AH for a while. Right up there with the "Gunman vs Addition" incident.
I'm landing at a nit field, and see two P38's coming in hard, thinking they were going to vulch me I started to worry. But no, they were Kamekazi Jabo's, in they dove... their planes pack with explosives and 1000lbers... ready to unleash their devastating power on ... the field hangar??? You, the one that looks like the VH but is on the field, and its where you go to select your plane. The one thats of absolutely no value whatsoever.
;) tards.
FDB squad night? Those two must have been the ones that were too inept to actually hit another squad member and k/s themselves.
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Originally posted by Karnak
[BPissed me off to the point were I almost shot his chute.
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Oh dear, no! :D
SOB
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Id like to move the maproom back to the base, and skip the city thing alltogether, and maybe make it so that you have to destroy all hangars before you can drop troops and capture. But thats just me. :)
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I'm landing at a nit field, and see two P38's coming in hard, thinking they were going to vulch me I started to worry. But no, they were Kamekazi Jabo's, in they dove... their planes pack with explosives and 1000lbers... ready to unleash their devastating power on ... the field hangar??? You, the one that looks like the VH but is on the field, and its where you go to select your plane. The one thats of absolutely no value whatsoever.
Saw a group of P-51D's do the same thing but try and take out the control tower... I guess they figured that would stop people from taking off or something. Don't remember which country but some guy parked in a M16 on the field got a bucket load of free kills.
Karnak:
OK, whatever. I never observed a suicide buff. I did once (in more than two years of playing AH) have a B-17G pilot bail out before I got in range to shoot him. Pissed me off to the point were I almost shot his chute.
I've seen this many times.... I never hesitate to de-chute them for it. The best part is they'll come on channel 1 and cry like they were cheated out of a safe landing or something... ah, not.
-Soda
The Assassins.
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4 months later, still the same story
you kill him and you're all sorts of things
he then comes back for a '1v1' but brings a friend
his friend shot me down after i chased ruuke around, but in true form, 'rookie' came and shot my wreckage to get the kill.
:rolleyes:
any bishop friends that i have - if you see him and i on at the same time, please private me his location so i can dweeb hunt till he cries.
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Hello fellow n00b warp monkey. Alas I am as well, Ruuke told me so after I shot his typh out of the air, that incident happend just after Ruuke decided scissoring my 190a5 was his best option.
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Ruuke one of my squelching "regulars."
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according to dr ruuke, i am a noob, lagwhoring idiot
That's really interesting, because that's the exact same thing he accused me of being, about a month back.
.. and guess what I was in.. a 37mm field ack.
He and his companions knock out field ack, with the usual sort of no-intent-for-capture-but-rack-up-the-cheap-kills vulch run :rolleyes:... Most of his 'buddies' returned to base, but he just had to stick around and git that one~two extra vulch.
As a friendly was trying to up, he approached from that guy's high 12 for a vulch attempt. I was in a 37mm which was unscathed, and shot him down.
Boy, did I ever regret it that day. Touching one of those "you-know-who"s sure ruined my day.
As I kindly hit back on his accusations that I was in a field ack, and a vulcher who leaves a 37mm ack alive really doesn't have any excuse to complain, he accused me of being a lier. (but really, even if I was lying, how can anyone ever whine about being shot down by a plane on a ground during a vulch attempt?)
I hit the "Tower" button then.
Voila, the universal message for two kills in a field gun.
I think that was one of the lovliest moments of my AH life :D
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Perk bombs??? Morons........
Let them die...let them re up....
If you dont like it fly somewhere else...
If you really dont like it..fly somthing tht will cacth them....
Man a field aaa and kill them from 3k out....
dam this was a hijack....
I just cant stand not to respond when you Cheese And WHIney bellybutton babies cry about "suicide jabo"..lolololol..I rarely see this...at aan airfield..when they die..i think they just suk at diveboming...lolo..of course you see this all the time on CV;s...
owell......
Merry New Year....and go to hell if you dont agree with me...
:mad: :p
Love BiGB
xoxo
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Originally posted by Fatty
You guys really need some beer.
hhhhhhhmmmmmm....what? Beer?
Yes, thank you very much ;)