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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: sidthekid on August 26, 2002, 12:01:11 PM
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I'm using windows 98 se system is pent 4 1.8 with 512 ddr mem western digital 10k drive with a geforce 3 ti200 128 mb card. I'm getting 85 fps now should i upgrade and y and y nots
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IMO win98se is still the best gaming platform.
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fyi I have had Windows XP Pro for sometime now.
I dual boot my machine using Win98 SE for AcesHigh.
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If it ain't broke don't fix it
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I switched from ME (NEVER had a problem), and have had XP Pro (Full Version, not Upgrade). I love it and still do not have a problem. 800Mhz PIII, 394Mb SDRAM, Hercules GeForce DDR-DVI (32Mb) [75 fps, 40 in a furball], XP Pro. I agree with the above posts. I personally do NOT like 98SE, we have it at our work and I have too many problems with it. HOWEVER, I know alot of people that have it and LOVE it.
Majority rules here, don't change it.
Karaya2
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XP is a bad idea IMO.
If you dont have any trouble with win98 keep it. If you're frustrated at all by hard-locks and other win98 nonsense, get a copy of win2k. Windows 2000 is essentially XP minus the bloat and new bugs.
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I run 98SE, and I am gonna keep running it as long as possible. After this, I will probally go to Windows 2000.
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2000 professional rules IMO.
nary a lockup
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I only changed to XP because it was a new computer. I haven't had any issues that I could trace back as being OS related, though I have had a hardware issue as of late. If you use Saitek gear I'd suggest staying with 98se a bit longer, the win2k/XP support is coming along but still lagging compared to 98.
If you want to upgrade just to be current I'd say leave it. If your having issues that warrant rebuilding the machine, check to make sure all your hardware is supported first.
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Windows XP Professional rocks.
Best MS OS ever.
For me its more stable than Win2k, plus its more compatible.
I dont care for the aesthetics, I switched my desktop so it looks just like 2k
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hehe.. I noticed those cartoon like graphics for the defeault install of XP. cracked me up
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Some saitek sticks not win2000 or xp friendly, something to keep in mind!
XP pro much more stable paltform then XP home!!!
heard a rumor that frame rates better in xp than 98se?!
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XP is by far the best OS available to date. There is a different look/feel which you will become acustome to. I never get bluescreens XP has a better add/remove than 98se. I personally think XP is better if you IPS is broadband. Just my opinion.
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For the record if your using a Sidewinder FF pro (1st version) MS isnt making an updated driver set so you dont get the full force feedbackwith win XP
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Ps how does that whole dual boot thing work?
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the 'different look and feel' is what Animal and I were referring to. I turned it off.
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XP Pro here (full version). Much, much better than any 9x kernel OS.
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XP Pro here, much more stable, better control of apps, good compatibility. Turn off bubble-gum look, MS remote help and auto update crap and you'll love it.
I'd never go back to a 9x OS.
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if it aint broken then dont fix it unless your willing to go all the way . win 98 is still the better gaming platform . in my opinion.
But XP pro seams to be working pretty good, except for the fact that everything isnt updated to work on it yet , and its a ram hog it uses 128mb vs 32 mb .
also if your going to XP you have to compleatly scrub your old OS off your Hard drive (I mean Fdisk and reformat ) DO NOT INSTALL ON TOP OF AN OLD OS !!!
As for the duel boot set up it works fine for me on a dual hard drive system and you have to enable the OS that you want to run in the bios/dos setup screen as you turn on the pc for it to work trouble free. (But note here two hard drives each one with 1 OS and correct drivers installed ) Some people say a partitioned single hd will work, but i havent tried it with 98 and xp yet .
now My inlaw and I tried a duel boot on a Raid system (Iwill 333 mb, 2.0 AMD xp cpu, 1.5 gig ddr) 2 matched hard drives running the raid w/ win xp on them and then a 3rd drive with win 98se on it .and the results are as such.. the first 3 times we switched it back and forth between the systems it worked fine ...
the 4th time we switched down to 98se then back up to xp .. the whole mess crashed (and I mean crashed badly) had to fdisk the whole mess and start over .it would not even repair itself with the system disc. and or reload either OS (we havent tried the dual boot system again yet because it just wont work on this combo )
A note on the Raid systems (dual hard drive striping simutanalisly)
They just SCREAM !! it loads 2+x's faster then a single hd system.
well thats all i know ...and current results from the "Roo" PC labratory ...
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I have a single harddrive partitioned with Me and XP pro, I have no problems at all, very stable.
Only problem I had was some compatibility probs with older games (hence why I have duel boot) and also that stupid refreash rate problem in XP (solved with Nvidia refreash rate fix)
I am very happy with XP plus was very easy to setup the network we have in our house (4 PC's)
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*I believe it was bloom25 that was saying that microsoft had plans for an ambitious licencing plan for win XP. I dont remember the details though. Something like "XP owners will have to purchase (and repurchase) a licence every few years". I dont want to misqoute.
Win2K user here. love it! Agree, I will never use a win 9X OS ever again.
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I partition hard disks all the time at work.
Win 2k / 98
XP / 98
XP / 2000
etc etc
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I agree with most of the replies. I am currently running 98 SE and don't have a reason to upgrade because "if it ain't broke..."
When I do upgrade it won't be to XP however. I have a Saitek X45 and I don't think there are XP drivers for it. I'll upgrade to 2000 because it's basically XP without all the problems. Some good friends of mine who are big gamers have tried both on several of their systems and they are all running 2000 now. Hearing these guys squeak about XP at lunch is enough of a flag for me to stay away from XP.
Kuben
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Saitek drivers for XP and 2000 are the same.
TH eonly problemis that the final verson of SST isnt released so far. :(
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XP personally i wouldnt install it if you paid me.
some people get along just fine with it, BUT depending on your setup it can give you some really nasty Hardware compaterbility problems.
XP is microft trying to relaunch their NT technolagy to the masses and one thing i really hate about XP is it just loves to keep seattle in touch with your computer, sly spyware?
Its not going to do any damage, but keep with what you got if everything works fine, you wont get a performance boost from useing it and it could have some issues with some of your hardware.
as said, if its not broken done fix it.
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
Saitek drivers for XP and 2000 are the same.
TH eonly problemis that the final verson of SST isnt released so far. :(
but the last (2.8.0.1) work so far :)
You cannot program the rotary but all the buton can be mapped now :p
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Dude... its a 9x OS... ITS BROKE. Trust us :D
I'm a gamer, I have XP. I have Quake, UT, AH, OFP, MOHAA, RTCW and various other games that come and go from my HDD. My laptop has XP, my mates all run XP. We all love XP. If you mates are having problems, well, do the math... it ain't hard :)
Originally posted by Kuben
I agree with most of the replies. I am currently running 98 SE and don't have a reason to upgrade because "if it ain't broke..."
Kuben
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I'm still trying to figure out "the problems" with XP? This has worked FLAWLESSLY since installation. I hate rumor mills.
98SE sucks at work for me, BOXBOY28 works with me and he can attest to it.
Karaya2
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Upgrade to XP it's far more stable than even Win98SE was.
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The only time I ever hear of XP having problems when the user(s) have the following installed all at the same time and believe me it happens all the time "I know is sounds unbelivable".
AGP and PCI graphics cards
2 NCIC cards
SB & Turtle sound cards
ATA 133 & 66 cards
3 different Cd-roms
250 watts
In the end if you can absorb the cost give it a try decide for yourself "your preception is your reality".
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Have to say again - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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fyi 2000 and XP are almost identical except for the bells and whistles.
both are much more stable than Win9x.
Drivers might be a problem though.
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All drivers updated since install of XP Pro, love it. :D
Karaya2
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(eyes the XP Pro disks gathering dust in the corner)
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"Wlfgng" may I have your XP Pro disc?
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Don't reply Wlfgang til you read your email :)
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gee.. I guess you can't fault a guy for asking politely...
hmm..
what's the word I'm looking for...?
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
hmm..
what's the word I'm looking for...?
Right here:
[size=12]NO![/size]
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ive just installed (full) XP pro from winME and havent had any problems. I use to get crashes with ME all the time but since XP was installed i havent had any problmes.
only problem ive come accross is that my gta3 disk reads as an MP3 file in the drive so i cant install it. :(
it just shows all the mp3 and music files but not the install exe.
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RIP that's it!!! NO :eek:
sorry, couldn't resist and I do plan on installing it sooner or later....
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chaos, go into the folder settings and make sure you have it set to view ALL file types and not hide the registered ones.
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There seems to be one HUGE difference between XP and Win2K.... at least if you are using MICROSOFT Sidewinder 2 FFB joystick. There is no control software for Win2K for their own stick :( :(
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blauk try this:
drivers for FF Win2k (http://www.usbman.com/Drivers%20and%20Patches.htm#Microsoft%20Hardware%20Drivers)
click on the Microsoft link and it'll take you 'bout half way down to FF drivers for Win2k.
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XP rules.
98 drools
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don't ya mean FDB's drool ?
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
blauk try this:
drivers for FF Win2k (http://www.usbman.com/Drivers%20and%20Patches.htm#Microsoft%20Hardware%20Drivers)
click on the Microsoft link and it'll take you 'bout half way down to FF drivers for Win2k.
That link title is a bit misleading ... that page has all kind of drivers, not only W2K. Also the Sidewinder software found there, *Sidewinder v3.02, cannot be installed to Win2K...... or is it only my Win2K that rejects it??
Sidewinder2 "works" in W2K without any separate software, but it cannot be configured in any way. Forces are all at max and if the centering forces disappear suddenly (has happened to me often recently) there is no other way to get them back than restarting AH. Earlier in Win98 I could leave the plane with autopilot, alt+tab to desktop and get the forces back through the Sidewinder Ctrl software.
Unless some1 can convince that it is only me and that there is a fix... goodbye Win2K :(
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btw. That link froze the whole opsys (Win2K) when trying to scroll the page in Netscape 4.7 with naviscope enabled... :mad:
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oops sry.. I just did a quick search and thought I'd found it.
I'd suggest you do the same. I'm almost sure someone has developed drivers for Win2k. but I don't know for sure.
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I have tried :) That is how I found to Microsoft's Sidewinder site. They announce that their driver patches are XP and W2K compatible, but there just is no software for W2K :eek: :confused:
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Sidewinder FF pro(1st version/ game port) will work but you cant use the software not adjust the forces! Im pretty sure that the sidewinder FF pro2 has drivers and you can use its program with XP! But unluckly enough i still have the 1st version so i cant scale the FF!
Bluak i thought they did have patches for FF2pro for 2000 but i could be wrong!
Box:rolleyes: