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Title: Balance teams
Post by: AtmkRstr on August 26, 2002, 07:21:15 PM
Stating the obvious:
-Those poor Rooks are almost always outnumbered.
-The bish almost always have number advantage, occationally numbering more than both Knights and Rooks combined.

Solution? Some Bish squads should consider changing contries.
Somtimes the answer is so obvious even a Nitwit can figure it out.
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Biggles on August 26, 2002, 07:24:32 PM
[off topic]

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Title: Balance teams
Post by: Innominate on August 26, 2002, 08:13:23 PM
huh?

This post should be about a month old.  Things have swing in the favor of the knights who now usually have the numbers advantage.

Numbers more commonly reflect and intensify how well a country is doing.  If country A picks up a couple of quick fields, and gets a good offensive steamroller going, people on the losing end will tend to log off, people on the winning end will tend to stay online much longer.

For the most part, numbers don't cause one side to pick up an advantage, They cause the advantage to grow.  If any team can get a good solid offensive going, numbers will shift.
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Hwkeye on August 26, 2002, 08:49:16 PM
I agree with you Innominate on the issue of " This post should be about a month old. Things have swing in the favor of the knights who now usually have the numbers advantage."  

However, Innominate I don't agree with your assertion that numbers don't, in the end, matter.  Far from it!  My experience in AH has been "he who has the numbers resets".  There are certainly exceptions to every rule and I am sure others can (and probably will) state those incidences but day in and day out the country with the numeric advantage rules AH.  Some squad rotations around the three countries can change imbalances but the longer one side wins resets the more pilots will gravitate to the winning side.

If pilots are logging off in Bish and Knitland because they are getting beaten up then that speaks to their commitment to their fellow "country men" that they leave behind when they log off.  As a rook I do not see my fellow Rooklanders logging off because of our numeric disadvantage.  We have learned to cope with that constant reality.  From vox chatter I hear I believe I can say with a fair amount of assurance that rooks are pretty proud of how well we do in spite of being out numbered.

Hwkeye
The Original Flying Tigers
Title: Whine.
Post by: Innominate on August 26, 2002, 09:21:30 PM
WHIIIIIIINE


The evil knightrook alliance have settled thier differences and are now constantly gangbanging us poor defenseless bishops!  I pay my $15 a month, my team should do NOTHING BUT WIN!!! Getting gangbanged makes things no fun for me

SOMETHING MUST BE DONE, OR I WILL QUIT!!!



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Soviet on August 26, 2002, 10:06:49 PM
where's that whining forma again?
Title: Balance teams
Post by: AtmkRstr on August 26, 2002, 11:33:12 PM
The Knights ussually have a number advantage in US primetime, when the MA is the most full.
The bish seem to have numbers every other time.

So, some Knights in US primetime should move to Rook.

Basically, if you're team consistently has numbers in whatever time slot you normally play in, please consider switching.

BTW, when knights have poor numbers, I'm more likely to stay on.
Title: Balance teams
Post by: sutpid on August 27, 2002, 01:21:21 AM
I have no problems with #s jsut wait till the next RJO last tiem we had 210+. even if we outnumbered just means  more kills for us.
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Masherbrum on August 27, 2002, 06:23:39 AM
I concur with my fellow Rook Hwkeye.  I actually squelched 4 rooks yesterday because of useless banter cycling pertinent stuff faster.   We MORE THAN hold our own in the MA.   We slammed the door on a fruitless raid from A1 to A19, by the Bishes last night.  

Karaya2

Numbers don't bother me a bit, I love being the underdog.
Title: Balance teams
Post by: gofaster on August 27, 2002, 07:50:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Innominate
huh?

This post should be about a month old.  Things have swing in the favor of the knights who now usually have the numbers advantage.


I would disagree.  When was the last time the Knights actually won a reset?
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Masherbrum on August 27, 2002, 08:26:15 AM
Go, you are RIGHT!  I usually stick to my opinion.  And the "regulars" no mine.  But I have to say the "outmatched" Rook have had more resets than the Knights.  

That is not to take ANYTHING away from the Knights AT all.  Duedel, Freeze, and some others.  Somehow, someway I accidently flew a mission with the Knights (Duedel).   But I enjoyed the teamwork of the Knights that I had the priviledge of flying with.  I did NOT feel "out of place".   We fought at A41, which happened to be Bish base.

Say what you want, different people log on at different times.  Is this really that tough to figure out?   You shouldn't need a slide rule to figure it out.

Karaya2
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Widewing on August 27, 2002, 08:59:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster


I would disagree.  When was the last time the Knights actually won a reset?


Last night

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Balance teams
Post by: straffo on August 27, 2002, 09:47:42 AM
hum ...

I just don't play enought ...

in about 3 year in AH I've seen only 3 reset ...
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Turbot on August 27, 2002, 11:00:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster


I would disagree.  When was the last time the Knights actually won a reset?


After a VERY nasty bishop gangbang reset - knights and rooks took after the bishops with great glee and knights won reset with a 2 base margin of victory over rooks.
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Catching Spies on August 27, 2002, 11:05:06 AM
"Unless a method is put in place to balance the number of players per-side it makes it very diffcult for a new player to get interested and stay with AH for a long period of time".

Even most FPS have auto team balancing this may be a feature that may have to be examined further.
Title: one phrase
Post by: Wlfgng on August 27, 2002, 11:05:50 AM
Target Rich Environment
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Nifty on August 27, 2002, 11:06:30 AM
Quite a few Knights couldn't care less about resets.  We just wanna have fun.  Sometimes the fun coincides with pushing for a reset, but that's rare.  :)

Besides, our General hasn't been playing much.  We only really roll when Rip is on to direct the gangbanging!  :D
Title: Balance teams
Post by: Don on August 27, 2002, 11:18:38 AM
Either someone is fishing here or, this is a bid for Whine of the Week.