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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rude on August 27, 2002, 08:08:47 AM
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If HTC ramped up the graphics to a point where your current machine failed to give you that lovin feeling, would you upgrade to take advantage of this improvement in graphics or..........?
I would power up in a New York Minute.
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Yes, sure but I would prefer an optional improvement.
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surely :)
I would power up in a New York Minute.
meaning ?
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probably, but only because i'm at that point almost already.
i do wish they'd get rid of some unnecessary fps sucking things, or at least make them toggable (cluttersheep) or design better ground objects like clumps of trees/sheep instead of having them spread all over like they were put down by an incontinent cocker spaniel.
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Of course!
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I am looking for an excuse to upgrade my PIII-600.
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I would . . . . . if my machine was a bit outta date, but as it is right now there isn't much they could do that would require and upgrade on my end :D
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Yup, definitely! :)
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I already did! I went from a Compaq 233 Pent II to a Dell 1.9 Gig Pent IV....JUST TO PLAY ACES HIGH!
My FPS went from 17 to 75!
Now, if I had to do it again, less than a year later...well, that's another story. I could not justify spending another 2 grand so soon. Of course, this is a theoretical discussion.
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NO.
I upgrade when the business and music software I'm running no longer perform up to speed (due to software upgrades).
I will not upgrade simply to play a computer game.
That would kinda' make my 9.95/month turn into much much more.. tack on over $1,000.
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Well, sorta.
I regularly upgrade/build a new machine to play the newest games. Doom III will be the next reason I guess.
btw, nothing beats a machine build from single parts in performance vs. $$$
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yes..that is the only reason I upgrade. have done it twice
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I would as soon as I could afford to do so.
If HTC is planning a graphics improvement, I would want them to let us know in advance so I could start a savings fund for new PC equipment.
At least a 6 month notice.
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UnReal II will push systems a lot further I think Animal. (http://www.unreal2.com)
I won't upgrade to play AH... unless someone gives me money to upgrade... or I win the lottery... or I stumble across a lot of cash... or... well you get the idea, it all revolves around a sudden magical appearance of a lot of money in my pocket... then I'd prolly blow it all on booze and hookers anyway.
-SW
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To answer the question, yes! I've upgraded my PC so I can get the most of other games I enjoy (Jedi Knight 2, Soldier of Fortune, etc etc)
Now can graphical enhancements be toggled off/on? Every other game I have lets me select my level of detail. If Aces High could do this, yay! If your system can't handle the detail level, crank it back some. But from the survey someone had a few days ago, most of the respondents had GHz + systems with impressive video cards. Be nice to see those systems pushed a bit, game/detail wise ;)
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HT would have to make the game so amazing 10k users would be compelled to sign-up immediately to play. Otherwise "NO".
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well, that would make it easier...having a reason to upgrade that video card!
i'm in.
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Hate to see HTC go down same path Warbirds did when they jumped whole hog onto the graphics bandwagon. Other aspects of the game suffered.
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I'm there and waiting:cool:
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lol SW.
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>>HT would have to make the game so amazing 10k users would be compelled to sign-up immediately to play. <<
The game already is amazing. The question is wether or not you would upgrade your PC. IMO, why would it be necessary to do so? The graphic improvements since the beta are pretty awesome and do not hit fps as much as they could. Many would upgrade because they prefer the high fps but, the game is still playable at low end fps. For me, graphics are not what I would like to see fixed or improved; solid conns for everyone is what I would wish for, and I already pay more to connect than a 56k modem line (I use cable modem).
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I was referring to a serious graphics upgrade...one which would choke down systems to an extent that let's say you would need a minimum of a 1 gig cpu and a gf3 card to be satisfied.
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Originally posted by Rude
I was referring to a serious graphics upgrade...one which would choke down systems to an extent that let's say you would need a minimum of a 1 gig cpu and a gf3 card to be satisfied.
I just upgraded from 500 P3 to 1.8P4...
When ever your ready HTC ;)
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I have already upgraded but AH was not the main reason. Having said that I would also prefer that HTC NOT concentrate on eye candy until the game is made more stable and has less tendancy to CTD's and freezes. If you can't play, the eye candy is a waste.
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Isn't a 1 gig, GeForce 3 a low end machine now! I think so:)
Just looked at pricewatch. Says an athlon 1 GHZ is $50.00 and GeForce 3 ti500 is $99.00. If ya can't afford that then perhaps you shouldn't be spending the $'s to play AH and should be looking at a 56k connect at Juno!! You should save that money to eat with, right?
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Motherboards, cases, memory and power supplies cost money too.
And tell me, what's 99$ plus 55$? How much is shipping? Another 10-15-30$?
That's close to a year of AH.
-SW
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And for under $400 you can have a new machine. Now how much did you pay for a 450MHZ when it was the hottest thing around? Well over a grand, right?
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I don't buy anything top of the line... I can't afford to.
I bought a 1Ghz CPU, 130$ EPoX mobo, and new case(with PS) just last October.
Had to use old parts->PC133 Memory, CD-ROM, Floppy, HDD, SB Live! and V5 5500 to have a complete system.
That ran me a little over 200$.
I can't afford much more than a low end GF3 at this point.
So basically, like I said... I can either upgrade my machine and not play AH (the point of doing that is.......), OR I can just wait.
Either way, HT said he's waiting... it's nice so many people here can afford fast systems. But there's many more who can't... and they probably constitute a larger player base than the ones with fast systems.
-SW
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Gaming has driven most, if not all, of my upgrades since 1988. I'm waiting to see what Doom 3 /Unreal 2 requires. I'm hoping my 1.9 Athlon xp and GF3 will be adequate with most of the eye candy turned on. As for AH, just like with "persicope" SVGA AW its the gameplay and flight models that have the most appeal.
Charon
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So the other question is this...do you hold up fancy dancy new graphics because some players do not have Ghz/g3 quality available to them? Its a fine dance...those of us that have the power would love to see it. Those that do not, well, upgrade!
I'd hate to see a great game not take advantage of the graphic cards & cpus that are out there. "What about the guy who has a Pentium 2 300 ?" and such kinda thinking doesn't occur here. Games, hardware requirements and spending money to upgrade are cold, hard facts in the computer gaming industry :)
I love being immersed in Aces High gameplay. The dated SVGA'ish look really needs a review. The last few airplanes HTC has released really look very very nice. Anxious to see what HiTech and the art folks have up their sleeves
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In case you didn't notice, this game relies heavily on the size of the player base LePaul.
Is it worth it to HTC to write a new engine that only 1/2.. or less... can play on?
My guess is no.
-SW
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The next big upgrade retires me. But I think it must be done within the next year, maybe two. I look forward to both :)
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You gotta figure your going to upgrade every two years or so anyway. I upgraded for WBIII but I was due anyway.
Throwing the lastest graphics card or upgrading your CPU if your MB supports it is a cheap holding manuver.
I'm maxed on my MB ( 1.2 T-Bird ) so I have a graphics card upgrade or two left on this machine.
This is my main game and I figure when they get around to it, I'll be due once again.
Fun building a toybox anyway :)
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No. If my current machine isn't fast enough, we'd be screwed as there isn't much that is significantly faster.
Athlon XP 1800+
GeForce4 4600
512mb PC2100
WindowsXP Pro
I can upgrade the processor, but even there it isn't too far from the top. What else could I change?
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You mean you want me to give up my Commidor64 that is attached to my Mom's black and white TV? I guess it is about time for me to get rid of this old Atari joystick I've been using. I better pick up another paper route though. Hope there are no dogs like the one at the Jones house. I have to bring a sacrifical Kitten every sunday just to get close enough to lob the Sunday paper on the porch. Oh well, everyone has to sacrifice something don't they. I think my neighbor is getting suspicious now. She is down to only 99 cats. Wish they were more like bunnies! :D
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Karnak, at this point there really aren't any *significant* upgrades to perform. Sure you could buy the XP 2600+, get a new KT333 based motherboard, and upgrade to pc2700 RAM. You could then overclock both your cpu and your graphics card. All in all, you *might* notice a difference of a few frames per second. Sure, it looks nice that the new Radeon 9700 can play quake3 at over 300 frames per second...but one thing to remember...your eye can't go over 30 fps.
The real benefit to the upgrades is how the game handles when it has a bucketload of stuff to do...like process smoke effects from multiple sources, vertex shading, anti aliasing, z-buffer clears, etc. That is where the powerhouse graphic cards shine...and your 4600 is no slouch.
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I would normally say yes but I'm really tight for dough for the next 6 months.My P3 1ghz w gf3 ti500 says "No".
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jonnyb,
The human eyes sees at slightly over 60fps. That's why a 60hz refresh rate shimmers, looks like crap and gives you a headache.
My point was exactly that, there is not a significant upgrade for me, so my answer was no.
For people with sub-gigahertz systems though, upgrades are well within reason.
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Yes as soon as it was possible I would upgrade.
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Been there, seen it, done it......on my fourth upgrade since starting this drug.
LLB OUT!!!!!
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I assumed it was a rehetorical question
I just upgraded to an 1800 athelon, kt333 mb pc2700 ram and a radeon 8500, almost all for AH. I assume that will get me by for a year or so, but I would have no qualms about upping the ram to 512 the video to ati9700 and the processor to a 2600 tomorow if HT wrote a cloud, terrain and Aircraft model to match or exceed IL2. If most of you had played IL2 on a good pc you wouldnt either....
keep our view system and gunnery system though....
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Hell Year!!!!!!
Everytime I upgraded my machine was when I couldn't take it anymore with Aces High. I always ... ALWAYS ... squeaked but found the money:D
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In a heartbeat. Any excuse for a Fry's run is good by me!:D
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Well, what I have noticed is Aces High is really processor intensive. Not so much intensive on the graphics end vs. being processor intensive, almost like it does most of the work on the processor core, not so much on the video cards.
It would be cool to see HTC move Aces upto DX9 level, and move more graphics processing onto the cards. Cards now days support 64 and 128mb ram, but still Aces only uses about 24mb of video ram. More textures please!
Also something else I would love to see with Aces High is multithreaded or dual processor support. For those of us who do have dual Intel Xeon’s like my self.
Fatz
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As a computer owner ive in my mind that I need to improve my PC , let's say ....every 1 Year or so.
Nevertheless I think that AH needs a little better graphics.
On the other way I'd like to have better connx first:D
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Any excuse my wife will by into for upgrading would be great.
Personally I think AH should have a min. req. of 2 gig processsor, 1 gig ram, and 128 meg vid card:)
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I will always take gameplay improvements over graphics but yes I'd definetly upgrade. After flying around abit lately in IL2 you realise how far graphics have come since AH latest major graphic update..
And with the low cost and good bang for your buck so to speak with PC's I think most people would be happy to upgrade.
...-Gixer
The Horse Soldiers
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What Midnight said