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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: funkedup on September 04, 2002, 01:31:03 PM
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....then HTC wouldn't have given them icons or nice explosion effects when they are hit.
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Why the hell would I shoot down the dweeb, only to let him escape alive????
DIE DWEEB DIE!!!!!$@!#!@$!
:D
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less filling, tastes great
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I still miss a "splat" like sound :(
Also, less & less are squealing after... it's dissapointing, realy :D
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I don't waste the ammo, unless the chute becomes a forward air controller for his country.
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it is your duty to kill em... the 'chute' icon is annoying and distracting.
lazs
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Chutes should be worth perkies.
Edit: The best thing to ever happen to AH was the "spy" rationalisation.
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I must say that this is the only disappointing facet of vulching. The guys you shoot on the runway never bail, they just explode. No chutes to kill. :(
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Shooting chutes is.. a waste of ammo and only pisses other players off needlessly.
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It's only a waste of ammo when you miss. Practice will help that though.
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conservation is the key.. just use mg's
no need to waste cannon
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I was defending a field and destroyed a bomber at 8k then moved to destroy two attack planes that were hitting the town. The pilot of the bomber had bailed and opened his chute at 7k. I fought the two fighters then rearmed and launched in time to shoot the chute before he touched down.
Top that.
AKDejaVu
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Shooting chutes is a nice way of lightening your load by firing off mgs,without your hit percent dropping :D
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Shooting chutes is.. a waste of ammo and only pisses other players off needlessly.
Shooting chutes is a fantastic way of improving your aim. Ever since I've started using chutes for gunnery practice, my hit % has increased, not to mention the fun value.
Ack-Ack
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If We Weren't Supposed to Shoot Chutes...
God wouldn't have given us dweebs who squeel on channel 1
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The only reason I ever shoot planes is so the chutes will fall out.
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Edit: The best thing to ever happen to AH was the "spy" rationalisation.
Sooooooooo true!!! :D :D :D
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and only pisses other players off needlessly.
No need to offer more fun things about it, we are already sold on the fun of it. :p
I have asked HT to make the little guys under the chutes scream when you shoot them, but he declined offering that the real players were probably already screaming enough. Damn that HT is a funny guy, really cracked me up.
Of course, its more fun to shoot the chute from another guys kill, then they have no idea who to piss and moan at on ch 1. :D
I have said it before, and I will say it again, you are not just welcome, but encouraged to shoot me in a chute, I dont give a dang.
dago
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The most satisfying thing I have ever done in AH was to disintegrate an enemy plane that was target fixated on a chute.
Killing another players plane happens in the virtual world- you show your superiority as a pilot. Killing another players chute is a real world thing. You gain nothing in score, perks, strategic advantage, or tactical advantage. The only reason to do it is specifically to piss off the other player. So when you are shot in your chute (and in AH that happens 99.9% of the time) it means that the other player actually despises you as a person, and wishes to inflict upon you as much discomfort as is possible via a remote connection. There is no other explanation.
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Originally posted by 715
The only reason to do it is specifically to piss off the other player. So when you are shot in your chute (and in AH that happens 99.9% of the time) it means that the other player actually despises you as a person, and wishes to inflict upon you as much discomfort as is possible via a remote connection. There is no other explanation.
Ding ding ding! I think he finally gets it!
Of course, the truth of the matter is that only those who allow themselves to be angered by having their chutes shot are the ones who experience "discomfort." Shooting chutes has the unique property of being as ruthless, assinine, wicked, depraved, skill-free, hateful, wasteful, dumb, and unsportsmanlike as the shootee believes it to be. To me, it's just another chump in a chute.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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The only reason to do it is specifically to piss off the other player.
Wrong.
I do it to be historical. In order to avenge the atrocities (http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/pol39/pol39.htm) committed by the Luftwaffe over Poland in 1939, Polish fighter units developed disciplined methods of dispatching Nazi parachutists.
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If you don't get a laugh from being shot while hanging in a chute harness you probably need to take a step back for some perspective . If you get pissed because someone shot you while you're in a chute that means you're taking it personal. In that case you're taking things way too seriously .
BTW what is all this about shooting chutes ? I allways aim for the pilot .
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I dont like to shot at bailed pilots, so, please HTC, give us ....... flamethrowers to fire their chute:D
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I shoot chutes if I'm either really pissed off at the guy, or I'm flying a 190a5 or 109 e/f/g with those hundreds of otherwise useless 7.92 rounds ;)
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Boy oh boy,, do some folks get hot regarding this.
This is virtual acm. I, personally could not fire up a defensely person in a parachute for real. Tactically speaking, in the hateful skies of AH virtual war, I used to hope for someone to pop my chute, and if possible, bail over nme bases so that the field ack would get me quickly.
Thus, an unwitting nme wastes ammo, and I get back to base ASAP. Now, I've found it more adaptively efficient to ride a busted bird into the deck rather than bailing. The KAPOW! graphic is thrilling ~
And for any of you who've had the chance to hang onto the wing-strut, in a 120 MPH slipstream, before a "chute ride".. You'd find riding the bird in a good option~ MOOOOahahahaaa!
I never wasted a round on an AH chute, in years of play. Now sporting a grin, with vicarious vandalistic thoughts.. Hmmm?
HEY! A question? Do nme chutes "collide" with your plane? (like nme planes do).. IE: Will it tangle up the prop, etc?
RV6 ~
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generally i wont shoot chutes, yeh say that 3 times fast:) however when i know that someone has been vulching a base has oh say 6 or 7 kills say he gets shot real bad and cant land those kills , he bails, a bailed mission is worth more than a crashed mission correct? anyhow i will go after his chute my 303's in my spit 5 well shucks it only takes 1 burst:D now maybe thats not a good thing of me to do oh well it fun
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"it means that the other player actually despises you as a person, and wishes to inflict upon you as much discomfort as is possible via a remote connection. There is no other explanation"
yes... there is another explanation. It means that the person despises your cowardly, score potato VIRTUAL butt.
lazs
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rofl lazs
No need to offer more fun things about it, we are already sold on the fun of it.
definately a winner
RV6.. yep.. don't collide with a chute unless you want to reup immediately
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boom!
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOAHAhhaahahahaaaa a!!
THIS IS THE BEST REPLY ON THE BOARDS!
Fatty ma' man (or ma' woman).. THIS FRICKN' SAYS IT ALL!!!
A "Sponge Bob" gunsight aperture,, blastin chutes!
This thread is hereby officially ENDED!
MOOOOOOOahahahaaaaaa!!!!
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Originally posted by krazyhorse
generally i wont shoot chutes, yeh say that 3 times fast:)
How many chutes should a chute-shooter shoot if chute shooter should shoot chutes? :)
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He'd shoot all the chutes a chute-shooter should if chute shooter should shoot chutes. :)
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Not to be confused with:
Seven sassy seamstresses sitting sipping scotch.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I still miss a "splat" like sound :(
Oh yeah!! Think about it... a damage model for chutes!! No more wimpy explosions... target the silk and watch the bailer fall faster and faster to the ground. If he should happen to survive the impact he remains motionless for a few seconds (sort of a long pilot wound)... this should give you plenty of time shoot the pilot laying unconscious on the ground! :D
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Originally posted by funkedup
Wrong.
I do it to be historical. In order to avenge the atrocities (http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/pol39/pol39.htm) committed by the Luftwaffe over Poland in 1939, Polish fighter units developed disciplined methods of dispatching Nazi parachutists.
Heck with Poland, I'm avenging atrocities committed against poor, defenseless ungulates by the BishRook axis of evil. I was just another transport pilot sickened by the things I saw being done to these poor creatures until one day a voice told me to eradicate the infestation of BishRooks.
Besides, if they open high enough for me to hit them they deserve to die. My other hobby is seeing how low I can open my chute without dying :)
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how low I can open my chute without dying
I thik Elfie can give a bit of related adivce :)
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i only shoot when there back is turned
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Originally posted by 715
The only reason to do it is specifically to piss off the other player. So when you are shot in your chute (and in AH that happens 99.9% of the time) it means that the other player actually despises you as a person, and wishes to inflict upon you as much discomfort as is possible via a remote connection. There is no other explanation.
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Well, actually, I would shoot chutes even if no one cared about getting shot in their chute. I guess you're wrong, not a suprise.
And for the rest of you fun-loving fools, here's my chute killing sight. And yes, it is centered on the head :D
(http://www.matthoffman.us/bb/chutesight.gif)
http://www.matthoffman.us/bb/p51d.bmp
SOB
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chute shooting is stupid you just doing them a favor. they up faster aftere there dead. ejecting isnt for dweebs its for people to remain alive aftger there plane is dead. just fly at high speeds really close to em :D
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I would rather just chop them up with the prop.
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It just goes to show how much the character of people has changed since WWII.
I believe that no self respecting WWII pilot would shoot down a chute. It was the plane they were after. This belief comes from some of the books I have read and what they thought of pilots that did it. They thought it showed lack of character.
On the other hand Ace's High is just a game with a Quake like mentality. Here it's different. Warbirds and Airwarriors it was looked down at . Still is in Warbirds as far as i can tell.
It shows the morals of the Ace's High community.
I hope it's only a few that really seem to get a kick out of it. Most of them are probably the youngsters that grew up on Mortal combat and all the violent films.
Seriously though get over it it just a game remember. The moral decline of our youth is unimportant.
For you older guys that shoot chutes. Well... theres no excuse.
LOL It's just a game don't take it to seriously.
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Originally posted by Alpo
Oh yeah!! Think about it... a damage model for chutes!! No more wimpy explosions... target the silk and watch the bailer fall faster and faster to the ground. If he should happen to survive the impact he remains motionless for a few seconds (sort of a long pilot wound)... this should give you plenty of time shoot the pilot laying unconscious on the ground! :D
I want collision modeling added to the chutes. I want to be able to snag the shroud lines with my tail boom and then land while dragging the guy in the chute behind me. I also want to be able to ram them with my wing and then have the blood splatter and guts dripping of the leading edge. And I want to be able to use my props as a blender and chop the guy in the chute to little bits and have his blood and guts splatter all over the nose and canopy. Whew...I need a cigarette now.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by Griego
It just goes to show how much the character of people has changed since WWII.
I believe that no self respecting WWII pilot would shoot down a chute. It was the plane they were after. This belief comes from some of the books I have read and what they thought of pilots that did it. They thought it showed lack of character.
Wrong. Shooting up pilots that bailed out was common on all sides during the war. While it wasn't an official practice, it wasn't actively discouraged either. There are many stories of British and German pilots shooting up each others chutes and of strafing up downed pilots in life rafts as they floated in the Channel. There are also many stories of British fighters shooting down German sea rescue planes as they tried to pick up downed German pilots in the channel. I think it was more widespread in the Pacific though, and both American and Japanese did it quite frequently. Remember the controversy during Bush Sr.'s presidency when it came out that he had a part in strafing survivors of a Japanese vessel in life rafts? The common thought was that "they can't come back and kill me later on if they are dead now." War is hell.
On the other hand Ace's High is just a game with a Quake like mentality. Here it's different. Warbirds and Airwarriors it was looked down at . Still is in Warbirds as far as i can tell.
It shows the morals of the Ace's High community.
I played AW for 8 yrs and WB for about 3 yrs and the chute shooting in both was just as common as it was in Aces High.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by Griego
It shows the morals of the Ace's High community.
LOL!
SOB
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I just love whining after some one shoots my chute.
But....
It can get better, way better! Check your stats. How many kills do you have from a chute? :)
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However I would never use A/C ammo to kill em. But in a Field gun there getting all the lead I can pour into em.:D
>>>S<<< GOODHUNTING!
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If it pisses me off getting shot in my chute. Why on earth does it take you Drunk Bishies six passes (shooting) to finally hit a chute?
I want to be in that tower sooner to shoot you down! I have witnessed some pathetic gunnery? I don't even know if the word gunnery qualifies.
I don't get pissed, like I said, it gets me in the tower faster.
Every bullet spent on a chute, is less for a plane or strat.
K2
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I don't know about you guys, but if my chute opens more than a 10 sec drop to the ground, i'm begging for people to shoot me. I think the rude thing to do would be not to shoot me:D
Saw a chute at 15k the other day.......and I bet he would have complained if I shot him down......that's gratitude for ya.
P.S. Give the pilot a .45 so he can shoot back!!
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YES WAR IS HELL.
Shooting a chute would not be something they[ being the WWII pilot] would be PROUD of or boast about.
Historically accurate yes. PROUD OF NO.
Straffing Historically accurate yes.
"While it wasn't an official pratice. It wasn't discourage either."
It was left up to the individuals own moral code. I'm sure there were times in the heat of the battle. That some were consumed with hatred over what had happen to a friend or countryman that Morality went out the window. I'm also sure they had to live with it and I'm also sure they were not PROUD of it either.
If you listen to any of the the WWII pilots interviews. None ever brought up How PROUD they were in shooting a Chute. Unlike some people in this post.
Remember it's just a game. enjoy yourself and if shooting chutes trips your trigger go for it. It really doesn't matter now does it.
quote " I played AW for 8 years and WB for 3yrs and chute shooting in both is just as common as it was in Ace's High."
No not just a common by any means. A few chute shooter yes common NO. That why there have been many comment on the mentality of Quakebird [Ace's High]. Don't get me wrong I like Playing AH. but some of the community including myself in this has to lightn up.
Yes my post on chute shooter is a bit much LOL. some is sarcasm and some is sarcasm with a reminder on how far we really come when people are proud of such action be a game or not.
" LOL it's just a game don't take it to seriously"
REALLY! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by lazs2
"it means that the other player actually despises you as a person, and wishes to inflict upon you as much discomfort as is possible via a remote connection. There is no other explanation"
yes... there is another explanation. It means that the person despises your cowardly, score potato VIRTUAL butt.
lazs
Heh heh. Just stumbled on this thread. Funny, in AW this was why I went out of my way to shoot chutes. I wanted to do my part to discourage pointmongering. Then I came to AH, which appears to have been designed expressly for pointmongers, and find that because scores are evidently such a huge priority for so many people, I can't bring myself to spoil their fun. So I don't bother anymore.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Griego
YES WAR IS HELL.
Shooting a chute would not be something they[ being the WWII pilot] would be PROUD of or boast about.
Historically accurate yes. PROUD OF NO.
Straffing Historically accurate yes.
"While it wasn't an official pratice. It wasn't discourage either."
It was left up to the individuals own moral code. I'm sure there were times in the heat of the battle. That some were consumed with hatred over what had happen to a friend or countryman that Morality went out the window. I'm also sure they had to live with it and I'm also sure they were not PROUD of it either.
If you listen to any of the the WWII pilots interviews. None ever brought up How PROUD they were in shooting a Chute. Unlike some people in this post.
Remember it's just a game. enjoy yourself and if shooting chutes trips your trigger go for it. It really doesn't matter now does it.
quote " I played AW for 8 years and WB for 3yrs and chute shooting in both is just as common as it was in Ace's High."
No not just a common by any means. A few chute shooter yes common NO. That why there have been many comment on the mentality of Quakebird [Ace's High]. Don't get me wrong I like Playing AH. but some of the community including myself in this has to lightn up.
Yes my post on chute shooter is a bit much LOL. some is sarcasm and some is sarcasm with a reminder on how far we really come when people are proud of such action be a game or not.
" LOL it's just a game don't take it to seriously"
REALLY! :rolleyes:
Yup, it's just a game. There's a *SLIGHT* difference between chute shooting in AH and in WWII. We're not killing people. I've met a few who've "been there and done that" in my days; none of them were PROUD of killing other people. It was an unpleasant part of the job.
This is a game. Don't take it too seriously. Nobody gets hurt, nobody gets maimed. About the worst thing that can happen is repetitive stress injury from hitting the return key too often. This allows for a bit more banter. If you can't deal with it, don't read the boards.
Speaking of which, I've also seen war games played in the military; inter-service and in the teams. After all is said and done and everyone is back in the clubs they're just a PROUD for having gotten a "kill" on someone, and are just as likely to give them grief about it as the people here. The only difference is the guy who died generally has to buy the guy who killed him a drink.
It's just a game. Don't take it too seriously. Morality isn't an option :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Then I came to AH, which appears to have been designed expressly for pointmongers, and find that because scores are evidently such a huge priority for so many people, I can't bring myself to spoil their fun. So I don't bother anymore.
hehe Spoiling pointmongers' fun is exactly the reason I do go out of my way to shoot chutes. I find the signal to noise ratio from shooting down the chute of someone who "flies to live" to be well worth the expenditure in ammo and time.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Chutes that land pad scores, or not?
I think they do, so I shoot them.
I they don't make a score diffrence, I will still shoot them, because they are pry from AW, and send Flossy flowers.
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what kind of a wuss would bail out? Who would even have a key mapped for such a thing? If we weren't supposed to shoot at em then why do they have big red icons?
lazs
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I myself, at one time, never even thought to shoot a chute. However, over time, the discussions on this board relating to killing chutes peaked my interest. I said to myself, what in the world could be so controversial about shooting a chute. Well, then I tried it.
My eyes have been opened and now I truly see!
I find it most enjoyable sending folks to the tower and watching the buffer for a reaction...I know, I know, not a very nice thing to say or do, but it just somehow feels right.
To make sense of this madness, I feel justified killing these little butterflies because they relay information back to their friends who then try and kill me.
So, in closing, I'de just like to say, KILL EM ALL!!!!
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Exactly. Why is there Channel 1 anyway otherwise?
It's either to entertain me from chute deaths whining all the way to the tower, or to give Zeroping free reign to chat gayly like it was AOL's first version when it dropped hourly charges.
Can't he die, no then the mindless "Great pilots pass in the virtual world" threads...blah...
I'll throw in $5 bucks for his babysitter not to fake his death, but drop a can of 5minute expoy on his keyboard.
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Originally posted by lazs2
what kind of a wuss would bail out? Who would even have a key mapped for such a thing? If we weren't supposed to shoot at em then why do they have big red icons?
lazs
LOL thats why the icon says chute. To let you know it a chute not a plane. plain and simple. sheez
As far as bailing out when you don't have a wing or half your plane is gone what the point in staying in it. You get the kill anyways.LOL shooting chutes is for wussess. you got that backwards. :rolleyes:
Chutes are there only for immersion factor is all. :)
I also find the reactions to my statments on this post very fulfilling. In the same way some of you find chute shooting so.:D
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I fondly recall a P-38 diving after my chute, twisting and turning to get guns on me, and then shooting past me at 500mph when I opened my airbrake / chute. He hit the ground 300 yards below me.
That was fun.
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Why do people bail out in the MA ?
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One of the few things that amuses me more than shooting chutes, is plowing my pony at mach 1 strait into the dirt trying to angle for a low chute. Not that I've ever done anything that stupid, mind you... :D
SOB
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Originally posted by Samm
Why do people bail out in the MA ?
So that they can give thier killer the chance to kill them a second time? It's very nice of them IMO.
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Chute Engagement Policies
Although it's soooooo tempting, a virtual air warrior should restrain himself from popping chutes, since it only means the jumper will return more quickly. But if the situation would give the jumper an opportunity to spy, he must be eliminated. An exception to the above rule is if he is close to the ground so time isn't a big issue, he's all yours.
Few things about this game fascinates me more than the chute shoot whines. Make no mistake about it, in AW chutes were fair game with whines aplenty. It's just that some dweebs agreed amongst each other that it shouldn't be done. Same thing about calling bingo ammo and expect free passage back to base... arping all the way =o)
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Originally posted by Grizzly
Although it's soooooo tempting, a virtual air warrior should restrain himself from popping chutes, since it only means the jumper will return more quickly.
But, y'see... this is exactly why I shoot chutes. :/
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
But, y'see... this is exactly why I shoot chutes. :/
-- Todd/Leviathn
any why I didn't bail out after you shot me down :D
ack-ack
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quote:
Originally posted by Grizzly
Although it's soooooo tempting, a virtual air
warrior should restrain himself from popping
chutes, since it only means the jumper will
return more quickly.
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
But, y'see... this is exactly why I shoot chutes. :/
-- Todd/Leviathn
Good point... in a non-strategic sort of way.
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greigo... are you by chance from england or canada? there is a certain lack of humor and tendency to be anal about you..
shooting chutes requires skill and relieves boredom... shooting the chute of the type of person who would actually bail is very satisfying.
As a rule... I never shoot a chute untill it is allmost down so that the person has the longest time to reflect on his wussieness.
lazs
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I never shoot a chute untill it is allmost down so that the person has the longest time to reflect on his wussieness.
classic