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Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 06, 2002, 01:47:47 PM
Got some questions about malpractice lawsuits....
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: gofaster on September 06, 2002, 02:08:21 PM
Medical malpractice or legal malpractice or accounting malpractice?

They're tough to win unless your expert is better than theirs.  Its a lot of "this is right/no, this is right" type of testimony.  For the most part, an attorney's hourly rates are proportional to the quality of experts he has in his address book.
Title: Re: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 06, 2002, 02:36:02 PM
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Originally posted by Udie
Got some questions about malpractice lawsuits....

Hit it.

- oldman
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: XNachoX on September 06, 2002, 02:48:34 PM
Udie, my father's a lawyer and he's been in the game for a long time now.  I'll be happy to ask him some questions for you?  Just lemme know Melvinn555@aol.com
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Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Dune on September 06, 2002, 02:55:29 PM
I am, but I do criminal prosecution, so I can't really help you with the malpractice.  Hope you find your answers tho.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Cobra on September 06, 2002, 02:58:50 PM
I think AKNimitz got his law degree from some Diploma Mill place.

He might know how to spell malpractice....  :p

Cobra
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Post by: Animal on September 06, 2002, 03:05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Cobra
I think AKNimitz got his law degree from some Diploma Mill place.

He might know how to spell malpractice....  :p

Cobra


Last I saw he was chasing an ambulance.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Eagler on September 06, 2002, 03:11:41 PM
I'm sure if you check your local programming around 5:00am, you'll find a couple with info commercials ...
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Kratzer on September 06, 2002, 03:35:12 PM
AKFrankDAzar?
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: AcId on September 06, 2002, 04:52:23 PM
Frank Azar ?
thats my Dad's name
Title: Re: Re: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 06, 2002, 04:54:52 PM
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Originally posted by Oldman731

Hit it.

- oldman



 ok I admit myself to shoal creek hospital for depression.  The shrink meets me the next day and diagnoses me as bi-polar and prescribes the meds.  I take the meds the way told to do so and leave the hospital a week later.  I keep taking the meds like they said.  

 2 days after release I start feeling sick.  4 days after release I vomit 27 times and stop taking the meds they gave. That night I have a 3 hour psychotic/scary as toejam physical/mental reaction. The next morning I go to the emergency room.  The doctor was suprised when I told them what they had given me and the amount.  Now here I am a week after release 5 days after taking any of the meds and my hands are still shaking, there is deminished though ability i've missed 2 days of work because of it this week and may actually get laid off.  and The psychotic reactions still happen just not as bad as they were monday night.

 Tuesday after returning from the emergency room I call the shrink they "assigned" me.  He's in session,  I tell the secretary that it's an emergency that I'm having a BAD reaction to the drugs and please have him call, then gave her my number. Still waiting for the call 4 days later.  The day after that the therapist they "assigned" me calls to break her appointment with me.  Now I have to take xanax to feel normal.....

 The shrink in the hospital never saw me for more than 20-30 min and usually only about 15 min.  Is that enough to diagnose bi-polar?  If in a week/month I still am diddlyed up in the head do I have a case?

[edit]

 basicly I went in depressed and came out 60% insane.....

Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: funkedup on September 06, 2002, 05:03:40 PM
It's pretty common for people to have bad reactions to new meds.  However it is NOT common for the doc to blow off the patient when he has a bad reaction.  The instant you notified him of your reaction, he should have been working his bellybutton off to get you back to normal and find an alternate course of treatment.

Sounds like he may have given you way too much of something.  Write down the medication and the dosage and instructions and run it by some other doctors.  If it is out of whack they will let you know.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 06, 2002, 05:13:21 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
It's pretty common for people to have bad reactions to new meds.  However it is NOT common for the doc to blow off the patient when he has a bad reaction.  The instant you notified him of your reaction, he should have been working his bellybutton off to get you back to normal and find an alternate course of treatment.

Sounds like he may have given you way too much of something.  Write down the medication and the dosage and instructions and run it by some other doctors.  If it is out of whack they will let you know.


1500 miligrams of Depakote a day.  The emergency room doctor tripped out......
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Cobra on September 06, 2002, 05:17:13 PM
No you don't.

And don't wait 4 days for a call back.

CALL THEM AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET AHOLD OF THE PERSON YOU CALLED!

I know I'm yelling there, but come on Udie...you've spent more time on this board then trying to get ahold of the Doc....take that same initiative and get in touch with him.  

I know you have that initiative within you.

Cobra
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 06, 2002, 05:38:33 PM
well I haven't exactly been thinking straight since I got out of that place and I tend to seek the company of friends when I'm scared.....


Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: JB73 on September 06, 2002, 05:39:36 PM
Udie ... hope you r doing well soon.... but regarding your situation...
my sister is bi-polar ... noone knew till she tried to commit suicide (didn't work thank God). i'll call her tonight and find out about the meds she is on and has used just to give you an idea about what she has done to treat it.

BTW she is doing great now... job at major financial instution doing cust. support and going to school for journalism (she's 22 now) also off meds completely!
 so it shows that this condition is very treatable and bi-polar people can live normal just like all of us... there is NO difference or disability..

DON"T let anyone tell you different!!!!!


<> and if you have any questions for me email: dmray_1@yahoo.com
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: JB73 on September 06, 2002, 05:47:37 PM
called her ... all she ever took was Zoloft.. not sure of the mg but she is off it now and doing fine.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: funkedup on September 06, 2002, 05:55:18 PM
Check this out:  http://www.depakote.com/br/dep/dep004.htm
1500 mg would be a rather high initial daily dose, but not unreasonable in the long term.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 06, 2002, 06:02:55 PM
well I don't think it's a permanent thing.  I started this post durring the constant panic attack I have if not on the freakin xanax the doctor gave me tuesday.  I'm mellowed out now and feel normal.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 06, 2002, 06:05:36 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
Check this out:  http://www.depakote.com/br/dep/dep004.htm
1500 mg would be a rather high initial daily dose, but not unreasonable in the long term.




I got the pink ones.  Check out that pic at the top of the page.  That's what they make me feel like.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: funkedup on September 06, 2002, 06:26:46 PM
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Originally posted by Udie
well I don't think it's a permanent thing.  I started this post durring the constant panic attack I have if not on the freakin xanax the doctor gave me tuesday.  I'm mellowed out now and feel normal.


Glad to hear it.  Hang in there and obey the doctor.  :)
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Viper17 on September 06, 2002, 06:43:36 PM
Christ since age 7 i have been on drugs for depresion. (16 now) Now im having a thing called Fatty Liver...come to think of it i was on 800mg of zoloft at age 9. Now its ritalin and some other stuff. New stuff messed me up real bad one night. Thought i was psycotic. Turns out i had a alergic reaction to this med. Adderol i think it was. Small green thingy. Anywasys enough of my horor storys. Depresion sucks. And after a while on the same meds you kinda flatenout, in a boring druged haze kind of way. But AH can be a treatment to some.
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: loser on September 06, 2002, 08:47:49 PM
Udie in such cases, you should always get at least a second opinion.

From my experience doctors who experience cases of depression utilize a Knee Jerk perscription response more often than they should.

I know it might be hard to be patient when you arent feeling right, you are just looking for relief.  

But as far suing the doctor, will money make you happy right now?
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Post by: Oldman731 on September 09, 2002, 11:34:32 AM
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Originally posted by Udie
If in a week/month I still am diddlyed up in the head do I have a case?

Sorry the weekend intervened here, and I hope you're feeling better.

The most accurate answer to your question is:  it depends (and you wonder why people hate lawyers).  The basic issue is whether your doctor complied with the medical standard of current medicine.  To know the answer to that, you have to have (in most jurisdictions) another doctor testify as to what the standard is (do you prescribe this med on the first date?  or only after some additional testing?  or only when a patient is in a hospital?  or do you start with a small dosage and work your way up?).  Your second physician may be a start.  Beware, however, that it extremely difficult to get a doctor to testify against another doctor.

There is a second theory for many med mal cases, based on "informed consent."  It's the common sense notion that you should be advised of the risks of treatment before you decide to go ahead with it.  I can't tell from your post if your first doctor gave you this info.

Establishing liability (does anyone owe you anything?) is only Part I of a two-part presentation.  The second part is damages.  Assuming you can prove that the doctor did not meet the standard of care, or that he didn't adequately inform you about the meds, what harm has that caused you?  And how much is it worth?  This is obviously very hard to quantify.  Complicating your case is the notion that your case may be worth very little unless you can prove the meds made you permanently worse, which is especially hard to do in emotional/mental cases.  In Philadelphia, as a rule of thumb, lawyers generally won't take a med mal case where the damages are going to be less than a few hundred thousand dollars, because the cases are expensive to prosecute and hard to win.  

That's a general background, perhaps not especially helpful, but it will get you started thinking in the right directions if you choose to go see a Texas lawyer.

- oldman
Title: any of you dudes lawyers?
Post by: Udie on September 09, 2002, 11:59:34 AM
Thanks for the reply oldman :) but the drug is out of my system now and I can think normal again (what ever normal is LOL).  The constant panic attack and 150/100 blood pressure is gone FINALY.  Now I'm just left with sleepless nights which is likely due to marijuana withdrawal.  The whole experience with then sucked though and I doubt if I ever seek psychiatric help again.  They are quacks in my book.......