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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wanker on March 16, 2001, 10:16:00 AM
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It's mid-1944. The Axis and Allied high commands have recieved vague intel reports that something is brewing in Northern Europe. Bad weather, effective anti-intelligence rings, and deliberate false information plants have thrown the intelligence systems of both sides into a state of chaos. Something definately IS about to happen, but what that is, is still uncertain....... Welcome to "Hostile Shores"!
The Aces High Scenario Corps is pleased to announce that the next large, multi-frame scenario has been finalized. We're calling it "Hostile Shores". "Hostile Shores" is an orignal design, based on historical events. The designer of the scenario is Bart "Fd-ski" Rajewski.
Hostile Shores will be a four-frame scenario:
Frame 1: Saturday, April 7 4:00pm EST
Frame 2: Saturday, April 21 4:00pm EST
Frame 3: Saturday, April 28 4:00pm EST
Frame 4: Saturday, May 5 4:00pm EST
This time provides the greatest amount of opportunity for all AH pilots from around the world to participate in Hostile Shores, without having to get up at 2:00am. It's late afternoon for US pilots, late evening for European pilots, and early morning for Pacific rim pilots. I realize this may make it difficult for some people who have active social lives, but it's the best compromise I could come up with and still keep the schedule simple.
The scenario will take place in the Special Events Arena.
We are pleased to announce that U.S. Air Force Academy Cadets will be filling the roles of leadership of the Axis side, as the Axis command staff(CO, XO, some FL's). The Cadets will be using the Hostile Shores scenario as a learning tool as part of their studies. The rest of the Axis participents, and all of the Allied participents will be taken from the AH general public. Thanks to Major Rich "Sabre" Jernejcic for acting as the liason between Aces High and the U.S. Air Force Cadets. The Axis flight makeup will be of a slightly different nature than the typical FL and pilots that we're used to. In some Axis flights, there will be an Air Force cadet designated the Flight CO. His XO for the flight will be that squad's AH CO. The cadet will have tactical control over the flight, with the AH squad CO acting as a mentor, being privately tuned to the cadet. This will allow a very experienced AH squad CO to prevent a young cadet from leading the flight to slaughter. To make this arrangement work, it will require enormous tact on the part of the AH squad CO and the cadet, so we don't get any bruised egos. As a reminder, some LW flights will be led with this special arrangement, and some will be led normally by the AH squad CO. Your positive attitude and willingness to cooperate will be greatly appreciated.
Registration for Hostile Shores will open on Monday, March 19 and close on Friday, March 23. For this event, you may register one of two ways. You may register as an individual participant, or if you are a CO of a squadron, you may register your whole squad or parts of your squad as a whole unit. For squads that sign up as a unit, we will most likely assign a few individual participants with you so that you have the chance to meet new people. When registering, you will select a primary choice and a sceondary choice for side(Axis or Allied) and aircraft type(Fighter, Bomber, Fighter/Bomber). The CM staff will do it's best to give everyone their primary choice, but there is no guarantee that you will get what you put down as a primary choice. The actual aircraft assigned to each person or squad will remain a secret until shortly after registration closes. In an effort to encourage registration of bomber pilots, HTC is offering three(3) one-month complimentray AH accounts to three separate registered bomber pilots of Hostile Shores. The accounts will be awarded to people in three catagories:
Best Bomber Pilot (Axis)
Best Bomner Pilot (Allied)
Bomber Survival(either country, drawn at random from those bomber pilots who have survived every frame of Hostil Shores)
To be eligible, you must have registered for bombers and have actually participated in all four frames of Hostile Shores. Walkons will not be eligible for prizes.
For fighters, HTC will award one(1) one-month complimentary AH account to the registered fighter pilot who has the most kills during the scenario, with no deaths or captures. To be eligible, you must have registered for fighters or fighter/bombers and have participated in all four frames of Hostile Shores.
Walkons will not be eligible for prizes.
We are in need of a Commanding Officer and an Executive Officer for the Allied side in Hostile Shores. These two people will be responsible for organizing, planning and executing the actions of the Allied side. These jobs are extremely demanding upon your time and your nerves. The successful candidates will posses strong communication and organizational skills, A calm, rational mind under extreme duress, and the ability to work well with others. If you think you have what it takes to do the job, please email me at dahlen@home.com I will accept applicants starting immediately, until we find the right person for the job.
I can't stress to you strongly enough how important this scenario is to the Air Force Cadets, HiTech Creations, and the CM staff. This scenario is being taken very seriously by the Air Force cadets, and they should do a great job. The attitude and flexibility demonstrated by the AH community will make or break this scenario. As a participant in the Hostile Shores scenario, the CM staff is expecting you to cooperate with the cadets and help them succeed(unless you're flying for the Allies, of course). We understand that we'll be asking some AH squads to bite the bullet and allow themselves to be led by a stranger. And yet, we know there are squads out there that have the maturity to handle this arrangement.
To add another new element to this scenario, the CM staff will be purposely giving out vague or even inaccurate intel reports to both sides. As in real life(tm), some of the intel each side gets may be accurate, some of it may be only partially accurate, and some may be out and out wrong. We're hoping this will enhance the pucker factor, and the "fear of the unknown". Don't expect to know every little detail about yourself and your enemy during this scenario. Things will not be laid out for you as nicely as they were in Afrika Corps.
Be watching on Monday, March 19, as I will annnounce the opening of registration(and the link to the registration) at some time on that date.
<S>
John "banana" Dahlen
Multi-Frame Team Leader
Aces High Scenario Corp.
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And what aircraft will be in the scenario?
Whats the goal? Some history?
thx
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woooohooooo!!!!
Pepe
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Nath....
Don't expect to know every little detail about yourself and your enemy during this scenario.
Hope that makes things perfectly clear.
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Oh damn. Saturdays. I'll try and force the wife to go shopping with the credit cards (the ones without any limit left of course). Maybe that will work
But this sounds outstanding! I have to make this one! Acadamy my folks eh?
:edited to add: BIG WTFG on this. I re-read it for the second time and this is awesome. Simply outstanding. I'm perked!
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 03-16-2001).]
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9./JG 54 is in
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://stsanta.tripod.com/stSanta.jpg)
"Live to pull, pull to live"
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Looking forward too that
GA
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332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
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sounds good
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If i might pitch in few words:
You'll find out more details as far as planes/locations and such once you've signed up the for a side and are assigned a unit.
Private forums will be posted for both sides and then details will be made avaialbe.
We are trying to isolate as much information as possible so that pilots flying for Axis - get only the info that they would get on their side ( aka - you don't know exact order of battle of the other side )
This is not meant to be your average run of the mill scenario. There will be a number of things you might not be used to, little twists and such .... just pretend that you are a second Lt reporting to your unit in 1944
Hope you guys enjoy this.
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Bartlomiej Rajewski
aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF
Turning 109s and 190s into scrap metal since 1998
Northolt Wing Headquarters (http://www.raf303.org/northolt/)
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Hmmm. Allied C.O. ???
<Commisioner Gordon throws the ON switch to the search light putting the DoKGonzo "4Q" callsign upon the underside of the low hanging clouds>
Oh, what I wouldn't give to see a positive reply to that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Westy
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LOL This is gonna be great. I'm a SSgt. in the USAF, and Im gonna be flying (hopefully allied) against a few of the future officers in the AirForce that I someday will be saluting. <G>
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Kronos
CO No. 272 Squadron "Whispering Death"
---> http://members.home.net/wchiasson/no272/ (http://members.home.net/wchiasson/no272/)
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You and me both, Westy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
This sounds awesome banana!
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More limited intel ALWAYS equals more fun, in every wargaming experience I've ever had.
This is a pretty good step; simply the registration page from every previous AH/WB scenario gave away far more intelligence than any real WWII Air commander could even dream of having.
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I'll post a scientific wild-assed guess based on the scenario title and the limited info we have:
The scenario is either 1) a hypothetical Allied invasion of Norway, something that the Germans were convinced was coming but which the Allies never really contemplated (but they were happy to leave the impression that one may be coming.)
Or 2) Has to do with a sortie of, or attempt to sink, the Tirpitz.
In which case, the scenario will be a LOT different than what people will be expecting...some buffs and fighters from Scotland, but also Hellcats, Corsairs, etc. off of CVs, vs. the LW in Norway.
We shall see. I bet I'm totally wrong :-)
[This message has been edited by Torgo (edited 03-16-2001).]
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Neenier Neenier Neenier.....
I think I am probably one of maybe two people outside the Scenario Corps who actually knows the truth (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) But I admittedly cheated
banana & Fd Ski, I really hope you guys get a couple of Scenario Veterans (preferably people who have CO'd or XO'd successfully in the past) to act as advisors for the Academy people.
Otherwise they're gonna get their clocks cleaned bad.
Just as in real life, theoretical tactics and strategies are one thing, implementing them successfully is a whole other matter.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Like sooo Cool!
Wish I was still with AH and 3./JG2.
Ah, maybe next time.
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Oh come on Swager,
Just sign up for *ooooonnnnne* month
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Sounds like a nice scenario. I hope we can get our CO to sign onto this one as it seems to be setup well.
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ObstLt. Reschke
2/LJK, StaffelKapitaen
www.luftjagerkorps.com
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WOW!
Now this is cool. Innovative approach, and one that will make things even more interesting. A schedule I can deal with as well.
Oink! Oink! To WAR!
Congratulations on creating something innovative!
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com
Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://users.andara.com/~sconrad/) for AH articles and training info!
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US Airforce cadets? Is that just part of a class or is this an official arrangement with the USAF? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Sounds like a lot of fun.
Hey, couldn't we get the someone from RAF Cranwell to lead the other side? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Kronos:
LOL This is gonna be great. I'm a SSgt. in the USAF, and Im gonna be flying (hopefully allied) against a few of the future officers in the AirForce that I someday will be saluting. <G>
SSgt in the USAF here to Kronos, Muntions tech.
Count in the 56th FG for any P-47 slots < hoping, hoping, please>
(http://home.nc.rr.com/ammo/public.html/unw_sig.jpg) (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
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These Multi-Frame Scenario guys have been working hard on this thing. I'm looking forward to it.
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Yup....lotta buzz in our 33rd SG email list about this too.
Count the 33rd in. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-DIng
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Yep, this ought to be a lot of fun. Count me in.
[This message has been edited by Apache (edited 03-16-2001).]
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(http://www.wardogs.org/jihad/hshores.jpg)
Props go to loser111 for flaming the B17s wing in the TA yesterday so I could composite this graphic. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Dowding do you have contacts with the RAF at Cranwell for future events?
Sabre/Rojo has acted as liason with the War Gamers club at the USAF academy, a big <S> goes out to him for his efforts, as well as HTC for their assistance in making this event happen.
(http://www.wardogs.org/jihad/hs3.jpg)
[This message has been edited by jihad (edited 03-16-2001).]
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Verm: Yes, we're seeing to that. Any cadets that act as flight leaders will be experienced pilots and will have a non-cadet AH pilot as an XO. As for their command staff, they will have some help there too.
And yes...the cadets participation is santioned by the Air Force Academy faculty. Long story, but a couple of Air Force wing-wipers (that would be Jarbo and myself) somehow convinced the Academy that AH would help the cadets' development as leaders and military thinkers. They've even talked about classroom use of AH. This is a sort of test run of AH as a learning tool, as well as a great scenario for the community as a whole. I also have to say that the cadets' participation would be impossible without the generous sponsorship of HiTech Creations...Thanks, HiTech and Pyro!
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Sabre, a.k.a. Rojo
(S-2, The Buccaneers)
[This message has been edited by Rojo (edited 03-16-2001).]
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Fantastic!
What a fabulous announcement, scenarios are the ONLY thing AH has been missing, and this sounds like a classic.
A prediction:
Air force acadamies using H2H for interservice rivalry (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by banana:
This time provides the greatest amount of opportunity for all AH pilots from around the world to participate in Hostile Shores, without having to get up at 2:00am. It's late afternoon for US pilots, late evening for European pilots, and early morning for Pacific rim pilots.
Great scheduling (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
We Europeans can actually attend a whole event.
Thanks
Vladd
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I believe the 33rd Strike Group will be signing up as axis for this event. More than a few of us are active officers and enlisted with the N.J. Air National Guard, active duty army as well as retired military. There is also a wealth of Flight Sim experience in the squad, most of us have been flyin these things for years and some of us have CO'd and XO'd a few events on AW. We'll fight fer ya, just point us towards the bad guys! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
CRASH
Originally posted by Rojo:
Verm: Yes, we're seeing to that. Any cadets that act as flight leaders will be experienced pilots and will have a non-cadet AH pilot as an XO. As for their command staff, they will have some help there too.
And yes...the cadets participation is santioned by the Air Force Academy faculty. Long story, but a couple of Air Force wing-wipers (that would be Jarbo and myself) somehow convinced the Academy that AH would help the cadets' development as leaders and military thinkers. They've even talked about classroom use of AH. This is a sort of test run of AH as a learning tool, as well as a great scenario for the community as a whole. I also have to say that the cadets' participation would be impossible without the generous sponsorship of HiTech Creations...Thanks, HiTech and Pyro!
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Gawd, but don't this look like fun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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nothing need more be said.
I will be there
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Sounds cool! Let's start tomorrow! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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One question...
Why no frame on April 14?
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cheers,
sand
screamin blue messiahs (http://www.screaminbluemessiahs.org)
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Why no frame on April 14?
Because we chose not to try to run a frame on Easter weekend (April 15). We figured some people would be away visiting relatives, coloring eggs, etc..
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Originally posted by banana:
Because we chose not to try to run a frame on Easter weekend (April 15). We figured some people would be away visiting relatives, coloring eggs, etc..
see, The CM's do have brains (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
G,D,&R
(http://home.nc.rr.com/ammo/public.html/unw_sig.jpg) (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
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see, The CM's do have brains
Why does this make me recall the Mall scene from the movie "Day of the Living Dead"?
-westy
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What a fabulous announcement, scenarios are the ONLY thing AH has been missing, and this sounds like a classic.
They haven't been missing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) We already did Afrika Corps back in the fall, its just that you happened to join up in the "lull" is all.
Too many scenarios, and you burn out the players and producers. Too few and you drive the players mad with desire (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Its my opinon about 3-4 a year is about the correct amount.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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hmmmm, Today's the 18th, registration on the 19th <does the math> I bet there will be a lot of 'refresh' buttons clicked tomorrow. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Why does those cadets fly as Luftwaffe pilots? I would think allied side would be more natural choice.
My guess: Allies will have huge number of pilots without good planning or dicipline. Axis on the other hand have fewer pilots with better organization. Which one will be better suited for teaching purposes?
Sounds fun and exciting event, I will try to participate!
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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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Hmm, I think I will be a Ar 234 pilot! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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I am in for sure,,,and ofcourse as a LW_ the only thing that counts.