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Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 07:22:00 AM: Ki-100 was last IJAAF fighter.
It is only 580km/h fighter, but many IJAAF pilots reviewed this fighter as excellent. Mainly it fought against F6F, F4U, P-51, B-29.

It had 1,500hp Engine (Ki-61-I had only 1,175hp engine).
It was lighter than AH Ki-61-I (at basic weight).
It had exellent acceleration by good power loading and Ki-61's body.
It had much improved weight balance by removing radiator, ballasts, and long nose...etc (good weight balance improves maneuverability).
It had very strong body and wing.

Good Points:
Excellent acceleration.
Excellent turner.
Excellent dive performance.
Good climb performance.
Good Armament.
Good visibility (with Bubble canopy).

Bad Point:
Slow speed.
It is low-med alt fighter.

I'd much like to see Ki-100 in Aces High! :)
Title: Paint Scheme (1)
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 07:23:03 AM: Ki-100-I-Otsu, 59th Sentai

(http://www.uranus.dti.ne.jp/~mitty/battoutai/images/ki100/ki100_59sentai.jpg)
Title: Ki-100 Drawings
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 07:27:53 AM: http://www.uranus.dti.ne.jp/~mitty/battoutai/images/ki100/ki100_left.png
Left view

http://www.uranus.dti.ne.jp/~mitty/battoutai/images/ki100/ki100_top.png
Top view

http://www.uranus.dti.ne.jp/~mitty/battoutai/images/ki100/ki100_front.png
Front view

http://www.uranus.dti.ne.jp/~mitty/battoutai/images/ki100/ki100_under.png
Under view
Title: Real photo
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 07:31:23 AM: 59th Sentai's Ki-100s.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 07:34:34 AM: I still remember pyro's old post! :D

Quote
I've always wanted to do a Ki-44. It would be a hoot with those super low velocity 40mms. But we'll probably do a Zero first and for an Army plane, I'd be more partial to a Ki-100 first so that we can recycle it into a Ki-61.
Title: Kawasaki Ki-100 Specifications
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 08:33:09 AM: Ki-100-I-Otsu A total of 393 Ki-100s were built (including prototypes).

Span 12.000m
Over All Length 8.9245m
Over All Height (Horizontal Attitude) 3.480m
Over All Height (Tail On Ground) 3.750m

Wing Area 20.00m^2
Aspect-Ratio 7.2

Split Flap
Max Movement 50 deg.

Engine HA-112-II Radial 14 Cylinders
Take off Power 1,500hp/2,600rpm
1st Military Power 1,350hp/2,500rpm/2,000m
2nd Military Power 1,250hp/2,500rpm/5,800m

Propeller 3 Blade
Diameter 3.00m

Basic Weight 2,525kg
Gross Weight 3,495kg
Over Load Weight 3,762kg (with 2 DTs)

Wing Loading 174.8kg/m^2
Power Loading 2.33kg/hp
Span Loading 24.27kg/m^2

Internal Fuel Capacities 595L
External Fuel Tank Capacities 200Lx2
Oil Tank Capacities 48L
Methanol Tank Capacities 95L

Max Speed 580km/h/6,000m
510km/h/1,000m
567km/h/5,000m
570km/h/8,000m
535km/h/10,000m
Cruising Speed 400km/h/4,000m
Landing Speed 137km/h

Climb Time 5,000m/6'00"
6,000m/7'26"
8,000m/10'47"
10,000m/20'00"
Service Ceiling 11,700m

Range 1400km
Max Range 2,200km

Armament
Ho-5 20mm Cannon x2 (Fuselage, 250rds each)
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Wing, 250rds each)
250kg bombs x2

Limited Dive Speed 850km/h
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: brady on September 12, 2002, 08:35:42 AM: Ya, She is a beauity.:)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: ra on September 12, 2002, 08:51:46 AM: I'd love to see it. Ki-43, Ki-44, and Ki-84 too.

One question, how did it have a strong wing when the Ki-61 had such weak wings that the cannons had to be mounted in the cowl?

ra
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Duedel on September 12, 2002, 08:54:13 AM: In other words its another N1k ;)

But honistly very nice information Mitsu thx although i like more the KI-84.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Wilbus on September 12, 2002, 09:24:56 AM: Did it have tourqe unlike the Niki?
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 09:49:25 AM: ra,

Ki-61 could put MG151/20 20mm cannons on the wing.
Because Ho-5 cannon is larger than a gun position of Ki-61's wing, Kawasaki couldn't put it.

Ki-61's wing is never broken at 15G (at 2950kg weight) in the destruction test.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 09:50:39 AM: Wilbus,

I don't feel a torque even in La-7... ;)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Wilbus on September 12, 2002, 10:41:13 AM: Now that is VERY true Mitsu, actually, tourqe is almost non existant in AH :)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Blank on September 12, 2002, 11:57:22 AM: Cool Mitsu :D

Probably will not see this for a couple of weeks at least as i'm going on holiday, but when it is I'll post it for you :D
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Vermillion on September 12, 2002, 11:58:15 AM: I think I would much prefer the Ki-61-II. it was a superior plane in all respects.

The Ki-100 was most known and loved for its simplicity and reliability during a time when the rest of the Japanese air force was falling apart due to lack of maintenance and spares.

First the Ki-84, then the Ki-61-II has my vote.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 12:06:48 PM: What about releasing Ki-61-II/Ki-100 at the same time? :D
Both plane's frame is almost the same. ;)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 12, 2002, 12:15:27 PM: BTW seriously it is possible...because HTC often releases 2 different type of a plane in each version (example: see HurriIIC/D, F4F/FM-2, BostonMk.III/A-20G).

Ki-61-II and Ki-100 pack would be amazing set for IJAAF.
Of course, other IJAAF fighters are needed though...
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: ZEKE on September 12, 2002, 12:57:36 PM: (' _>') YES! NEED IJAAF fighters

:D
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Soulyss on September 12, 2002, 01:59:22 PM: not to hijack the thread too badly, but Mitsu could you point me towards some good info on the Ki-84? I must admit I'm pretty much in the dark about late war Japanese fighters. The curiosty was piqued when I was reading a recent article in Flight Journal (the special issue on the P-51) and it had an article about a P-51C that was captured by the Japanese and put through the paces, and they IJA pilots were rather impressed saying things like "it would out turn the Ki-84" did the IJA move away from the design philosophy that put manuverability above all else?
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Replicant on September 12, 2002, 03:35:54 PM: Ki100 damn pretty plane! They have the only existing one at the Royal Air Force Museum 'Cosford' in England. I went there late last year and they have some impressive stuff including a Ki46 Dinah, Ki100-1b, Me262, Me410 etc....

These are some pics I found from one of the Cosford websites:-

(http://www.paulnann.com/images/pn_w3078.jpg)

(http://www.cosford.royalairforce.net/cosford2/kawasakik100.jpg)

(http://www.cosford.royalairforce.net/CosfordNose/KawasakiAi100.jpg)

Ki100 ith 'Dinah' behind it (taken from Japanese website on Cosford - http://isweb41.infoseek.co.jp/motor/saiwm/cosford/cosford.html)
(http://isweb41.infoseek.co.jp/motor/saiwm/cosford/tony.jpg)

Regards
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: FDutchmn on September 12, 2002, 06:35:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by ra
One question, how did it have a strong wing when the Ki-61 had such weak wings that the cannons had to be mounted in the cowl?

ra, may I know the source of your question?
Title: Re: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Badboy on September 12, 2002, 06:56:40 PM: Hi guys,

Slightly off topic, but you seem to have some good information, so anyone know the internal fuel capacity for the N1K2?

Badboy
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 13, 2002, 01:42:05 AM: Badboy,

The internal fuel capacity of N1K2 is 716L.

716L = 189 U.S.gal
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Bluefish on September 13, 2002, 11:26:36 AM: Does anyone else think that it bears an amazing resemblance to LA 5?
Title: Ki-61-II-Kai Specifications
Post by: Mitsu on September 13, 2002, 02:21:58 PM: Ki-61-II-Kai 99 Ki-61-II-KAIs were built (including prototypes).

Span 12.000m
Over All Length 9.1565m
Over All Height (Horizontal Attitude) 3.450m
Over All Height (Tail On Ground) 3.750m

Wing Area 20.00m^2
Aspect-Ratio 7.2

Split Flap
Max Movement 50 deg.

Engine HA-140 Liquid Cooled V Type 12 Cylinders
Take off Power 1,500hp/2,750rpm
1st Military Power 1,350hp/2,650rpm/2,000m
2nd Military Power 1,250hp/2,650rpm/5,700m

Propeller 3 Blade
Diameter 3.10m

Basic Weight 2,855kg
Gross Weight 3,825kg

Wing Loading 191.2kg/m^2
Power Loading 2.55kg/hp
Span Loading 26.56kg/m^2

Internal Fuel Capacities 595L
External Fuel Tank Capacities 200Lx2
Oil Tank Capacities 48L
Methanol Tank Capacities 95L
Water Tank Capacities 21L

Max Speed 610km/h/6,000m
591km/h/8,000m
544km/h/10,000m
Cruising Speed 400km/h/4,000m

Climb Time 5,000m/5'00" (6'00" in another data)
8,000m/11'50"
10,000m/24'00"
Service Ceiling 11,000m

Range 1440km
Max Range 2,400km

Armament
Ho-5 20mm Cannon x2 (Fuselage, 250rds each)
Ho-103 12.7mm Machine Gun x2 (Wing, 250rds each)
250kg bombs x2

Limited Dive Speed 850km/h
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Montezuma on September 13, 2002, 02:45:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Bluefish
Does anyone else think that it bears an amazing resemblance to LA 5?

Well, they both started off as fighters with an inline engine modified to accept a radial.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Chris on September 14, 2002, 08:57:01 AM: I vote for the Ki-61-II-Kai. Only 99 or so were completed be for the rest of the airframes were converted to the Ki 100. However a few of the 99 were completed with a buble canopy like the one used on the Ki 100.

I have only seen one picture of this aircraft and from the front quarter. The buble canopy does not stand out. Currently Kit bashing two Tamyia 48 scale kits to creat a model of the Ki61-II with a buble canopy.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Badboy on September 14, 2002, 11:53:50 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mitsu
Badboy,

The internal fuel capacity of N1K2 is 716L.

716L = 189 U.S.gal

Thank you!

Badboy
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Hristo on September 14, 2002, 01:08:39 PM: why is th damn thing so slow ? It has lines of La-7, it must do 380 on the deck ;)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: oboe on September 15, 2002, 07:38:54 AM: Ki.100 - wingspan 39' , 1500 hp engine
La-7 - wingspan 32', 1850 hp engine

La-7 is faster because it has more horsepower and less drag.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Vermillion on September 15, 2002, 08:25:05 AM: Not to mention the fact that by the time the Ki84, the Ki-61-II, and the Ki-100 entered testing and service, the fuel quality used by the Japanese was so poor, the engines were not producing no where close to the rated horsepower numbers that you are using for comparsion.

For instance the Ki-84 rated at 1,800hp to 2,000hp, depending on engine model, tested at 392 mph at 20,000ft using Japanese fuel during the war. Just after the war when tested in the US, at combat configuration with 100 octane fuel it made 427mph at the same altitude (FYI faster than the Mustang at the same altitude).

So basically your not comparing apples to apples.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 15, 2002, 10:02:45 AM: Does anyone know an US test data of Ki-61-II-Kai/Ki-100?
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: niklas on September 15, 2002, 11:28:56 AM: Quote
Originally posted by oboe
Ki.100 - wingspan 39' , 1500 hp engine
La-7 - wingspan 32', 1850 hp engine

La-7 is faster because it has more horsepower and less drag.

With 1850Ps and the wingarea of a La-7 (or let´s say La-5FN, because the air intake over the nose looks very much like a 5FN) the KI-100 would do AT BEST 550km/h. Still a long way to 580-630km/h speed claims of the russians right? (...)

niklas
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: kreighund on September 15, 2002, 12:19:15 PM: What about the fuel, ADI, and oil for the A6M8?

The N1K2-J has more fuel than the N1K1-J, I'll have to go look for it but I just uncovered that recently...716 liters is for the N1k1-J
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: whgates3 on September 16, 2002, 12:15:04 AM: ???
listed speed for Ki-100@1000m is 510 km/hour
(1850[hp]/1500[hp])*510[km/hour]=629[km/hour]
...i know real physics with an atmosphere & significant MACH numbers is more complex than that, but not exactly how...
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 16, 2002, 05:54:53 PM: Soulyss,

Sorry, it was hard to explain in my English. :o

Ki-84 can turn smaller than P-51.
But P-51 can turn faster than Ki-84.
therefore, P-51 could out-turn Ki-84...I think.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 19, 2002, 07:06:26 AM: punt.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: straffo on September 19, 2002, 07:25:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Wilbus
Now that is VERY true Mitsu, actually, tourqe is almost non existant in AH :)

did you try the IL-2 ?

I've been quite surprised yesterday trying to use it ...
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on September 21, 2002, 05:27:16 PM: punt.
Title: Excellent wallpapers of Ki-100.
Post by: Mitsu on September 26, 2002, 05:44:51 PM: http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/ki61manual/images/wallpapers/ki100_1_1600x1200.jpg
http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/battoutai/ki61manual/images/wallpapers/ki100_2_1600x1200.jpg

Thanks airmess. :)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Pongo on September 26, 2002, 09:12:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Bluefish
Does anyone else think that it bears an amazing resemblance to LA 5?

I never thought so till I saw those pictures..the fire wall forward looks identical.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: illo on October 01, 2002, 01:45:40 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Bluefish
Does anyone else think that it bears an amazing resemblance to LA 5?

I wondered exact same thing. :)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: brady on October 01, 2002, 12:40:16 PM: Nice wallpapers Mitsu, ty:)
Title: Mitsu
Post by: Skyraider3D on October 07, 2002, 02:19:01 PM: Mitsu, do you have more of these amazing scale drawings you posted??? I am very interested in them! :)
I looked at the website where you can order these from the publisher, but I have no clue how to order them... It doesn't work with credit card and such...

Thanks! :)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on October 09, 2002, 04:03:39 AM: http://www.skynet-1.com/english/02.html
English Order page.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Skyraider3D on October 09, 2002, 05:34:10 AM: I know... I just don't know how to pay for them...
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on October 11, 2002, 04:45:53 PM: Ah-...sorry no idea.
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on November 28, 2002, 08:19:32 AM: Bump for V1.11! Thanksgiving! :D
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Tilt on November 28, 2002, 08:47:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mitsu
Wilbus,

I don't feel a torque even in La-7... ;)

I had a chance to look one of these over ay RAF Cosford..........was amazed at the number of design similarities between this and the La5FN / La7
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: Mitsu on November 30, 2002, 07:15:10 AM: I rather think that the Ki-44 is more similar to the La-5 than Ki-100.
It is close at a concept and a design. ;)

(http://webu-suka.hp.infoseek.co.jp/model/hellcat/hellimg/tojo2/type2-3.jpg)

(http://webu-suka.hp.infoseek.co.jp/model/hellcat/hellimg/tojo2/type2-9.jpg)

(http://webu-suka.hp.infoseek.co.jp/model/hellcat/hellimg/tojo2/type2-4.jpg)
Title: Ki-100 Information
Post by: daflea on December 03, 2002, 10:55:04 AM: By the end of 1944 the Kawasaki factories 275 Ki.61-II airframes sitting around with engines to install , the engine (Ha.140 liquid-cooled) had lubercation system and fuel injection system probems, the maine bearing for the crankshaft were burning out...
The answer to the engine shortage was to convert the airframe to take a large - diameter air cooled radial (Ha.112-II) , the first of three convertion flew Feb 1, 1945, by May 1945 257 had be delivered and the Ki.100- Ib was being built as from the ground up, the only differing from the original model was the introduction of the all-around vision cockpit hood. Some 390 aircraft of all version were built...Note...this was the only JAAF in service single engined fighter that could holed formation above 30,000 ft.