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Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Ripsnort on September 12, 2002, 09:59:57 AM
First off, I'm using the latest version of SST with WinXP Pro.  Everything is fine except this:

When I look back over my shoulder in a 45 deg. view using the 8-way hat switch (Programmed to be "5 3" or "5 1", left and right shoulder, per keymap within game) the view get stuck there occasionally, not consistently, but occasionally.  Is this because I should have used "Macro" instead of the programming the view with a 5+3, or 5+1?

Advanced thanks
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Eagler on September 12, 2002, 10:17:58 AM
this view is up and back - left & right?
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Creamo on September 12, 2002, 10:27:05 AM
It sticks programmed back right (3). To the point I had to up the Clipboard to get back to fwd view.

Not much fun to fly if it isn't all in order so I uninstalled the new drivers. I caught myself looking at hoopty twisty sticks tonight shopping and made the obvious choice. WIN98SE and a second reformat tonight completely killing XP for good.

I loved alot of XP features, but the refresh rate i couldn't set as it defaults every game you load, and the Saitek disaster was the clincher.
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Ripsnort on September 12, 2002, 10:35:43 AM
Oops, yes, 3 or any combination with 3.  What Creamo said.
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: OZkansas on September 12, 2002, 11:05:14 AM
How about setting the zero view as forward.  That way when you release the hat switch it will issue an order to look forward.
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Creamo on September 12, 2002, 11:40:58 AM
It's a possible fix OZ, but the ultimate solution is better than trying the trail fixes. Good info, but Im going with the 'what works' plan.

It's really not that bad. Annoying to all hell, yes. Reformat and SE is pale in comparison.
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: bockko on September 12, 2002, 03:54:40 PM
i tried an x45 yesterday (most of yesterday in fact:mad: ). I started with the views hanging up on the wrong axis, i fixed that problem by stickmaping the views instead of using the stick's software. What I couldnt fix (hence my saitek blue's post) was the stick working fine in control panel, but when I come into the game, one button, not the same button each time, would be sensed as depressed. I couldnt come in the game clean! I took the stick back and got the toy-looking thrustmaster afterburner. All I really wanted was the rudder off the stick. Anyway, programmed and up and running. Had to download latest software to make it work though.

good luck! I did like the saitek x45 feel! couldnt put up with another day of cross looks from the wife rofl.

later, bockk
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Ripsnort on September 13, 2002, 10:40:13 AM
bockko, try this forum:
http://saitek.63rd.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=75

They answered some of my earlier posts.
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: sourkraut on September 13, 2002, 11:57:33 AM
I have been using X45 since last December and with XP Pro since Feb with little problems. Here's my approach -

Use Dhauzimmer's Drivers and Haphazard's HazardScript to program the X45. These are available at - http://saitekhelp.simhq.com/ (http://saitekhelp.simhq.com/)

When installing the drivers, you MUST follow all of the directions on the above website.

Using HazardScript, I use only DX key assignments for the X45 and then use the AH Keymapping functionality to map the DX key assignments.

The limitations to this approach are that you cannot use the rotary knobs. That's it.

I will post my HazardScript file when I get home this evening.

Sour
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Ripsnort on September 13, 2002, 12:50:05 PM
Sour, tried that route. I had no success getting winXP to recognize those drivers (D's) but of course that was before updating critical files in WinXP...I have approx. 20 hours trying to get the stick work as it is...I think I'll be satisfied with this minor nuance. But thank you anyway!
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: NJMAW on September 13, 2002, 09:33:31 PM
I have little problems out of the X45 since December when I got mine.   I wish I could use the Rotaries, but I heard that Xp makes em useless.  Hopefully they will work when Strike Fighters comes out 9-18-02:D
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Creamo on September 14, 2002, 02:37:14 AM
Thanks Sour, all is good, as I took the time and did the driver update.

 I have a few issues with key commands on the downloaded AH keys, but pretty solid all around concidering.

TY
Title: X45
Post by: LowPass on September 16, 2002, 07:33:27 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Sour, tried that route. I had no success getting winXP to recognize those drivers (D's) but of course that was before updating critical files in WinXP...I have approx. 20 hours trying to get the stick work as it is...I think I'll be satisfied with this minor nuance. But thank you anyway!


Sour,
I've got 16 hrs invested trying to get my X45 stick working... only 6 more to go using Rip's standard.  (BTW OS is XP)  I went the Dhauzimmer's Driver route but I can't get the hazardscript to compile.  I like the approach you mentioned in your post. Could you post your script so I can compare it with what I'm doing?  

Thanks in advance.. getting tired of only being able to look forward, left, or right! Hope I can get this thing working soon.

Rip... did you ever get it all fingered out yet?
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Ripsnort on September 17, 2002, 07:31:57 AM
Neg low pass...just waiting on the next SST release due end of this month for the rotary's and regarding the view keys, I'm getting fast on the esc key to right itself.
Title: Saitek X45 and WIN XP
Post by: LowPass on September 17, 2002, 06:44:37 PM
Rip,

I can't wait that long.  Can't let Drill down this Friday on TOD!
I can't seem to beg, borrow, or steal a working Aces High X45 hazardscript.  I think I'll nuke the Dhauzimmer driver and return to the Saitek solution. (Theory being... "if it works for you, it should work for me...")  Ha! We will see!

Take care! See ya in the Arena!

LowPass
"You are either a meat eater...
               or
you are the meat!"
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Aqualung on September 18, 2002, 04:40:03 PM
Lowpass...I have a decent (well, decent for me) Hazardscript profile for the X45.  I'm at work right now, but when I get home I can post it somewhere or email it if you're still interested.

-aqua
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Aqualung on September 18, 2002, 08:50:35 PM
Here's my x45 hazardscript profile for those interested.
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: LowPass on September 20, 2002, 03:34:29 PM
:D

Thanks Aqualung... sorry for delay!  Just returned from a trip.
I'll try your script and see it I can get things working before TOD tonight.  Thanks again.

LowPass
aka Magicman
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: Tommy on September 21, 2002, 12:41:05 AM
Rip dauz's drivers are loaded from the desk top only drag and drop them as i remembr. and they work fine with Winxp that is what I use them with.

Tommy (=indn)
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: sourkraut on September 24, 2002, 04:33:57 PM
I put a shortcut on my desktop to run the Hapharzard script and then I start AH. Hmmm, I still haven't put my script up yet. Will do tonight if anyone needs them.

Lowpass - have you had any success?

Sour
Title: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: LowPass on September 24, 2002, 06:11:31 PM
None with the Hazardscript, Sour,
I couldn't get it to compile without errors.. (the drag & drop thing from the desktop.)  I gave up and nuked the driver, then reloaded the Saitek stuff.

Just like Rip says... every button programs and  works fine except the knobs.  Aside from the fact I can't always remember what I programed each switch to do.... It works great. (Oh, BTW, I do remember what the trigger does.. :D  

It only gets better from here!  

I like the hazardscript solution and will probably mess with it more when I have time. So, if you guys come up with something, please let me know.

vr
Title: Re: Saitek X45 SST or SD2.7 users:
Post by: DmdMac on September 28, 2002, 07:12:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
First off, I'm using the latest version of SST with WinXP Pro.  Everything is fine except this:

When I look back over my shoulder in a 45 deg. view using the 8-way hat switch (Programmed to be "5 3" or "5 1", left and right shoulder, per keymap within game) the view get stuck there occasionally, not consistently, but occasionally.  Is this because I should have used "Macro" instead of the programming the view with a 5+3, or 5+1?

Advanced thanks


I have this problem in Win98SE, and it seems like similar problems occur using a stick mapping rather than programming the stick.  Don't know what to say really.  My in-flight fix is to rotate the views(just draw a circle with your thumb on the hat) and that seems to reset it.  I like the feel of Saiteks, but these constant little problems are irritating me.  Looking at a Cougar toward end-of-year due to them.
Title: X45....
Post by: TIGS on October 05, 2002, 03:20:47 PM
Ok, I just bought a brand new X45 stick today - haven't opened the box and tinker with it yet....

(and there's always this) BUT - I did visit Saitek's website earlier before going out to buy the sticks and also found out that the next SST version is coming out at the end of this month and supposedly will fix all the problems with the sticks now (rotors should be fixed by then). At least that's what Saitek's website says, but who could believe anyone? Let's hope they did their part this time around.

TIGS

Look for me up in the air pretty soon. Getting DSL next week and might be flying up in 56K later this week. We'll see.