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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on September 13, 2002, 07:45:36 AM
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Radio Active Cargo Ship held off NJ coast
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62897,00.html
Alligator Alley closed as ATF/Broward ppl blow up packages from trunk of car
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62976,00.html
what lovely world we live in :(
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nice to hear the GA lady story and how her observations & quick actions may have prevented a catastophe in Miami/Ft Lauderdale area
Mrs Stone!
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there were no explosives found in the car..the package that they found and destroyed was medical equipment. I think its just dramatic hype FOX news style. Gotta keep the herd riled up.
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Weird story. 2 cars, originally called "possible middle eastern men", now MSNBC says they have Spanish surnames and are from Chicago. OTOH they blew through a toll booth and were very uncooperative with police.
I'm wondering why these idiots would say such incriminating things in a public restaurant.
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They're still searching the cars, 10:30 am, est.
Supposedly 1 man is Jordanian, 1 Pakistani and 1 Iranian, according to an NBC report.
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Not trying to hijack here, but the TV news had aerial pics that were a little grainy. The announcer explained that there was a no-fly-zone over the scene. Those pictures were coming from a helicopter 40 miles away!
40 miles! Now I have a decent refracting scope, and I can get pretty tight on an object 40 miles out (if the smog cooperates), but there was no atmospheric distortion in the TV pics. How do they do this?
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if there is a no fly zone, how come there is a tv helicoptor directly over the scene?
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Originally posted by hawk220
if there is a no fly zone, how come there is a tv helicoptor directly over the scene?
It's probably one of those secret black helicopters that's been spying on you.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by midnight Target
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40 miles! Now I have a decent refracting scope, and I can get pretty tight on an object 40 miles out (if the smog cooperates), but there was no atmospheric distortion in the TV pics. How do they do this?
Dude, don't be such a sheep, this is all happening on a lot north of Los Angeles, near the town of Lone Pine. But go ahead, believe what the white imperialist media spoon feeds you.
-Sikboy
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Whew, that explains the distortion then. Thanks.
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Originally posted by hawk220
if there is a no fly zone, how come there is a tv helicoptor directly over the scene?
Dammit, caught me!
I am actually the secret emmisary of AG Ashcroft, and I have been posing as a liberal wacko on these boards to smoke YOU out. If you hear the sound of rotors overhead... try to stay calm... make it easier on all of us.
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pretty soon people are going to rat on anybody they don't like just to get even with them :P
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Originally posted by udet
pretty soon people are going to rat on anybody they don't like just to get even with them :P
I heard Udet talking in a diner to a waitress about some medical equipment he was transporting with an Iranian, a Saudi, and an Iraqi.
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I heard they were making jokes about 9/11 in the restaurant.
Wonder if they think it is so funny now?
Idiots.
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Idiots, indeed.
There was a man in Columbus, OH 09/11 that was in the state office tower(41 floors, 4K people) to install window blinds for an outside company. Being unknown to staff in the building, I guess quite a few different people asked who he was. He allegedly told one of the staff that he was there to "hide the bomb".
One staff member contacted authorites while another confronted him. The man appologised and admitted that was he said wasn't appropriate or funny. Authorities arrived and questioned him, and a bomb sniffing dog arrived and alerted to a "hit" on his truck. (The "hit" turned out later to be a propellant for a nail gun). The entire building was evacuated.
The man is being held and charged with inducing panic. It was also learned that he is an illegal immigrant that overstayed his visa about 3 years ago. INS is considering shipping him and his 3 kids back to Mexico.
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Oedipus, you must have missed the part where once the cars were pulled over, bomb sniffing dogs reacted in a manner that the handlers deemed there to be possible explosive materials and/or residue in the vehicles. That is why the 3 men were detained and their cars searched extensively (and the package blown up.) When the bomb dogs react, the handlers and bomb squad take it very seriously.
Bomb threats are not something to make jokes about. The 3 suspects supposedly said "if they thought 9/11 was bad, wait until 9/13." That right there is probable cause enough to question them. The fact they blew through a toll booth is enough to arrest them. The bomb threats (even if a joke) are enough to have bomb sniffing dogs on the scene to examine the vehicles. Once the dogs alerted the handlers, that's enough reason for the bomb squad to do their job and search the vehicles.
you don't tug on Superman's cape, and you don't spit into the wind... and you don't talk about blowing stuff up on in a Shoney's. (sorry that it doesn't rhyme with wind. I'm not a poet!)
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Originally posted by Oedipus
The sniff dogs weren't the beginning. The part where these three reacted to an unwarranted glare aimed at them was. The stupid part was thier reaction by playing to that racist glare.
ROFL
-Sikboy
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I hope the smart arse creeps enjoyed their afternoon sitting on the side of the highway
she reacted correctly as did law enforcement
if it turned out any other way she and/or law enforcement would be blamed
better safe than sorry
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Paint yourself purple and go into a theater and yell "fire!".
After you get out of jail, repeat the experiment, only this time paint yourself orange.
Repeat as necessary until you prove to yourself color has nothing to do with it.
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Rofl?
Yes, ROFL at your understatement "The stupid thing was how they reacted".
Everything about this is suspect until the perps come out and say "we were provoked by racist glares" and that's the gospel truth all of a sudden.
Of course the best part is how, because I find you amusing, I'm part of the gestapo and want to set up death camps. Wow, your leap of logic in a single bound rivals the physical feats of both supermen
Yes, ROFL at you. Oedipus is a fitting name for someone so blind lol.
-Sikboy
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Oedipus you are really an idiot if you think nobody will take terrorist threats seriously these days. Are you aware that several of the 911 terrorists (freedom fighters to you I suspect), actually said in public to strangers they wanted to destroy America - Atta even pointed to a picture of a certain Washington landmark and said he'd wanna see it destroyed. You know why that wasnt reported? The lady in the flightschool who was meeting him later admited she didnt want to be offensive and prejudical in thinking he was an actual terrorist threat because he was an Arab middle east muslim so she never told anyone.
So please take your degenerate fantasies somewhere else.
Oedipus are you one of the white devil opressors? If so, please go to restaurant with another white devil opressor and openly threaten a major terrorist attack. Report your findings.
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I thought medical types have an inner devotion to help and save lives not joke about its lost as a grand form novelty. Hum, shrug. One of them musta been a good story teller.
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I'm positive those kids had it up to here with the 'looks' and the 'states' because they are Middle Eastern-Americans and they taunted the people who treated them with disparaging looks when they walked in the door..
That's a pretty strong statement, don't you think? Funny thing is, at the beginning of the paragraph you state color had nothing to do with it, then end with this paragraph that clearly indicates you believe color DID have something to do with it. You're saying that because they looked Middle-eastern they were singled out for persecution. That would be color-related, dontha think? ;)
Anyway, I'm glad you are positive what those guys were thinking, because if I'd overheard that conversation I would have reported it, too. I don't possess your telepathic prowess, it seems. It wouldn't have mattered to me what color you were, either. Tim McVeigh was as white as any cracka could hope to be.
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Oed, I'm just trying to sort out your argument. It changes from one end of your paragraph to the other, so I really can't be sure. If you think my pointing this out is twisting your words, maybe you should re-read what you write?
BTW, you offer an opinion, I offer an opinion and guess what? No one kicked either of our doors in and hauled us off for it. I believe you are wrong on this (your opinion of the events of Florida), but take heart, that doesn't prove you're wrong. Just my opinion, nothing more.
Thankfully I don't need Larry King, Peter Jennings, or Bill Moyer to help me make up my mind. ;)
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Originally posted by Oedipus
I'm just glad some of you aren't my neighbors.
Woha! Slow down there Hot Rod. Hey, I don't agree with Rip's point of view, or Maverick's, or Leslie's or Toad's, or Kieran's, or many others...But I'd be more than happy to have any one of these guys for my neighbor. It's a provable fact that conservatives have better lawns than liberals, even if they do favor three foot high chain link fences for their front yards and an abundent sprinkling of plastic pink flamingos. I'd be happy with any of these guys for a neighbor.
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I'm just glad some of you aren't my neighbors.
Me too. All those signs and placards you have littering the yard, warning of the impending disappearance of our civil liberties would drop my property value. ;)
I swear, Elf, I thought I'd beaten everyone to the punch. This guy's just taking this waaaay too personally, and I'd hoped to lighten it up.
You beat me to it, fair and square. S!
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Elf, if I weren't too lazy to go search, I'm sure I could quote you actually agreeing with me about a few things.
My lawn is average at best... after all Labradors live and play here. I hate chain link... the back has 4' cedar pickets space about 3" to keep the dogs in the back when I want them in the back.
No pink flamingoes or any lawn art for that matter... if I WERE to get some lawn art, it'd probably be something to do with Labs.
Guess this means I'm not conservative, huh?
I never really thought of myself as conservative. I describe myself as a "common sense responsibilitarian/accountabilitarian".
If someone else finds that viewpoint to be "conservative" I think that might say more about them than me. ;)
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I'm conservative.
I believe anyone of color is not to be trusted.
I think kids on free lunch should be served tree bark.
I think the instant you toke on a fatty, you have an insatiable urge to go out and kill people.
I think all Middle-easterners should be rounded up for internment (great suggestion, Oed!).
I think oil is a great reason to go to war.
Sorry I can't think of more stereotypes, I've had a long day and I'm tired.
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"I'm just glad some of you aren't my neighbors."
Why?
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Elfenwolf lives in Sacramento. I've been there. If he was your neighbor, there would be a big ugly old trailer parked out front, perhaps on the lawn. Is that what you want? Now that I think of it, I bet you anything laz has a big ugly trailer on his lawn also since he lives in Dixon. I've been there also and everybody who lives in that town (pop 100) has a large trailer out front.
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Well the three Florida guys are very obviously middle eastern and arabic as seen on their CNN interview. If I saw three mideast men talking or joking about making 911 look like nothing in comparison to "913" I certainly would call the police and probably confront them myself.
Sorry PC brainwashed drones but we were attacked by mid eastern men, I know ur heartbroken it wasnt McVeigh again, and it has become known since 911 that they sometimes slipped up and boasted about it in public before the attacks. If you think its racism to call them on it in that circumstance - well then I certainly hope the next terror attack takes you out.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Woha! Slow down there Hot Rod. Hey, I don't agree with Rip's point of view, or Maverick's, or Leslie's or Toad's, or Kieran's, or many others...But I'd be more than happy to have any one of these guys for my neighbor. It's a provable fact that conservatives have better lawns than liberals, even if they do favor three foot high chain link fences for their front yards and an abundent sprinkling of plastic pink flamingos. I'd be happy with any of these guys for a neighbor.
Back off there elfieboy!!! I don't have a lawn or flamingos. Those damn things will spoil the field of fire for when flaming liberals (like you for instance) come waltzing over the property lines tryin ta brainwash all us right thinkin folks! Everyun knows thet a rock "garden" is the right thing to have in yur frunt yard so's ya kin see them dang libs out there gettin reddy ta pounce on ya's! :p :cool:
As for those twits that got into this mess. Stupid move there to ramble off with talk like that. Even more stupid to run a toll booth. I don't feel sorry for them any more than I'd feel sorry for some idiot that would go to Mexico and yell how dumb Mexicans are. Now if it was Canada they'd be right of course. :rolleyes:
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Thank you Elfenwolf, for mentioning me along with Kieran, Maverick, Toad and Rip. I consider that an honor.
Also, I would be fortunate to have you, or any one of these fine gents as my neighbor. I must admit however, I'm more partial to the shiney ball lawn ornaments on pedestals, by way of lawn decor. In addition to being pretty, they are also utilitarian by affording me a glance around corners. One of these days I hope to acquire the three deer family: buck, doe and fawn, and position them in a shaded corner of the yard. I'm envious of my neighbor's christmas- light bedazzled tree, but you know, those are like boats...it's better to have a friend with one than own your own.
Off topic Elfenwolf, I had a dream about you last night, seriously. You and I were roommates in some two-fold university sponsored scientific analysis program, concerning the stress effects on monkeys water skiing and snow skiing while having flash-bangs lobbed behind them. Needless to say, we were both concerned about the military applications of such a study, but in the dream, it was time for breakfast...and that's when I woke up. Any dream analysts out there?
Les:eek: :)
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Sounds and LOOKS like East Germany to me.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Rofl?
"Federal sources involved in the investigation said they believe the three men - all U.S. citizens - were playing a stupid joke on another restaurant patron who gave them a suspicious look."
Oh wait, this happened in Georgia. I forgot this is the kind of treatment to expect if you're not a white W.A.S.P.
I bet many of you would love for the next step be to force anyone with Middle Eastern ancestry into "relocating" to "housing camps" far way from cities, bridges, nuW-queu-lure plants and water supplies.
I'll second Siks ROFL
Racial profiling? I suppose it is. Guess what, you decide to make stupid statements in public that would lead someone (redneck or not) to believe you are:
1) Enjoying the sadness and mourning created by 9/11
2) Planning to cause even greater destruction and grief
...you deserve to have your bellybutton kicked THEN be reported to the authorities.
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it's a well known a-rab terrorist M.O. to talk about their plans, in english, in a public place, loud enough for people to hear.
then pay for thier meal with a credit card. then drive, in 2 cars together, in main roads with lots of tolls and bridges, and disregarding traffic laws.
those terrorists, they a sneaky bunch, aint they.
but they couldn't get past that crafty ol' jeb. why, he even got a postponement of his daughters drug possesion hearing to handle this! i know i feel safer knowing jebbie's on the case! :D
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Racial profiling? I suppose it is. Guess what, you decide to make stupid statements in public that would lead someone (redneck or not) to believe you are:
1) Enjoying the sadness and mourning created by 9/11
2) Planning to cause even greater destruction and grief
...you deserve to have your bellybutton kicked THEN be reported to the authorities.
So what would you say about your beloved Ann Coulter's remark that:
My only regret with Timothy McVeigh (the Oklahoma City bomber) is he did not go to the New York Times building
Oh wait, I know - it's just a joke???
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KG 45, actually terrorists are more secretive than that. I think these guys are just dumb tulips who thought they were being funny. Hey, I thought it was funny as Hell that they spent the afternoon in the back of a squad car while their luggage was being blown up. Overreaction? Absolutely, but these are the New Rules. Don't throw flash bombs at monkees.
Leslie, I intended that remark as a compliment. Your points are well thought out and articulated, so agree or not I know you speak from the heart. For me the debate is sport, not personal. However, your dream disturbs me. I believe the monkees in the dream represent the staff at Hi Tech Creations and the flashbombs are posts deemed inappropiate by the monkees. Are you saying we are startling the monkees?
The only person I've ever dreamed about on the bbs is Lazs. I dreamed one time I was driving up I-80 and some old farmer dude in a souped up John Deere tractor called me a dweeb and tried to run me off the road. I still think about that every time I drive through Dixon... at 85 MPH.
Maverick, a neighbor with a rock garden suits me just fine. What better way to cap off an afternoon of leftist protesting than by throwing a few rocks? Thank you in advance for your silent support of left wing causes by supplying the rocks. ;)
Grunherz, Ordinarily I'd get on yer bellybutton over the hostility you have, but I find your schtick really entertaining. I mean- pretending to be a right wing fanatic white extremist advocating the genocide of all non-whites is priceless. You must have read the Classy Man threads on the Bimmer bbs to come up with that one. WTG and <>, bud.
Senna, I do not live in a trailer. However, I am guilty of having an old Chevy up on blocks in the yard and a big old sofa on the front porch. I have no idea what Lazs lives in but I find the idea of him in a tractor terrifying.
Toad, we agree more often than we disagree, and I had no idea I was a liberal until I was labeled one. You'd be a cool neighbor cause I like dogs and I like airplanes, and you have both. If the dogs dig holes then I'll sue ya, and if they bark at night I'll call the cops. I'm a good neighbor.
Kieran, ever since Berkeley started charging us for cleanup costs after our protests to save the enviroment we have started cleaning up after ourselves. I am outraged that the Government would actually charge the protesting orginization for law enforcement and clean up costs! That is a direct infringement and a detrement to our right to protest as guaranteed by the Constitution. It is un-American.
Oedipus, relax man. It's all in fun. Laugh at this, OK?
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Grunherz, Ordinarily I'd get on yer bellybutton over the hostility you have, but I find your schtick really entertaining. I mean- pretending to be a right wing fanatic white extremist advocating the genocide of all non-whites is priceless. You must have read the Classy Man threads on the Bimmer bbs to come up with that one. WTG and <
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Well I dont really advocate such genocide but I am honored by such a comment from you, as you certainly showed me what can be done in this field. Sensei. :D
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Erlkonig, Ann Colter said that? Well, then I think she should be strip searched every time she flies. In fact I'd like to volunteer to be the guy who strip searches her before every flight. I will work for food.
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They don't dig and if they did it would be in my yard since they're never out of the fenced area unless they're with me.
If they bark at night, it's because there's a REASON to bark.. and I usually check to see what's bothering them. Sometimes though, they'll bark a short time at other animals. It's easy to tell if an animal is the cause or if it's a two-legged predator by the way they bark. I adjust my response as necessary. ;)
In short, you'd like 'em.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Maverick, a neighbor with a rock garden suits me just fine. What better way to cap off an afternoon of leftist protesting than by throwing a few rocks? Thank you in advance for your silent support of left wing causes by supplying the rocks. ;)
Elfie, Go ahead and pick up some rocks. Make sure you choose the ones with the serated body. Don't worry about that ringing peice of metal flying off of it. Just hang onto it for about 10 seconds and make the throw a good one. Also watch where ya step in my garden. I don't have ANY gophers at all and the paperboy KNOWS not to miss the porch. :D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well the three Florida guys are very obviously middle eastern and arabic as seen on their CNN interview. If I saw three mideast men talking or joking about making 911 look like nothing in comparison to "913" I certainly would call the police and probably confront them myself.
Sorry PC brainwashed drones but we were attacked by mid eastern men, I know ur heartbroken it wasnt McVeigh again, and it has become known since 911 that they sometimes slipped up and boasted about it in public before the attacks. If you think its racism to call them on it in that circumstance - well then I certainly hope the next terror attack takes you out.
Ya, think they'd joked and laugh if they were sitted next to three good ole GA boys who were giving them a dirty look??
Now the confrontation of those 6 in the Shoney's parking lot would have been news worthy for sure. I don't think a crayon or the FBI/ATF would have been need either
I hope others in Shoneys, ie the waitress, will confirm the GA woman and son story, who are now being called possible lying racist biggots on national tv (CNN) by defense lawyers, and charges filed against these three a-holes.
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Here's a little experiment- walk down the streets of Chicago or NYC, and make eye contact with every single person you meet. I don't mean casual, I mean direct looks. Ride the subway, and move your eyes from person to person. What's gonna happen?
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Just shoot the diddlyers.
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Talk about Karma- I go out to mow my lawn and a dog has dug a hole in it. So I'm laughing as I'm filling it back in and I see a strange looking rock. I'm not taking any chances here- I called the bomb squad. Sheeesh, I hope I don't have that dream about Lazs in the tractor again tonight. Last night he was chasing me while Leslie was throwing flash bombs at me. I need to quit drinking Crown Royal.
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Elfenwolf, it was I who was manipulating your dreams. Thats why I have this picture of laz doing the funky in his tracktor.
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Originally posted by Kieran
Here's a little experiment- walk down the streets of Chicago or NYC, and make eye contact with every single person you meet. I don't mean casual, I mean direct looks. Ride the subway, and move your eyes from person to person. What's gonna happen?
Interesting that I should happen to read this. I performed this experiment a few years ago in Chicago while doing research for a story I was writing. I rode the trains early in the morning. I tried to make direct eye contact and engage the other passengers in conversation. I found it was a very difficult thing to do. A vast majority of passengers would not make direct eye contact nor converse with a stranger.
They look away.
In contrast, I have always found the people in and around Kansas City, MO to be very open and friendly, easily engaged in conversation and unconcerned about making direct eye contact.
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Whatever Sikboy. The eronious leap (and personal mud slinging) that was made here was you with the Nazi death camp baloney. It was refering to the "internment" camps for the Japanese-Americans in WWII and many of YOU seem to be of the same mindset which put those *US citizens* in concentration camps for years because of thier racism, bigotry and small, narrow blind mindeds.
ROFL again... this is good stuff. Thank god that finding you funny doesn't make me a nazi, but only a racists lol. I wonder what thinking you're an idtiot makes me? I had a nice long speech about that, but after reading your posts on the subject I just decided I wished you were my neighbor, so that I could have humor on demand.
One of the main east west corridors in Florida gets shut down for a day because three handsomehunkes play a prank and this guy thinks the great injustice is that some hillbilly looked at the guy twice.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Kieran
Here's a little experiment- walk down the streets of Chicago or NYC, and make eye contact with every single person you meet. I don't mean casual, I mean direct looks. Ride the subway, and move your eyes from person to person. What's gonna happen?
What would happen? Would someone pick a fight or something?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
What would happen? Would someone pick a fight or something?
do the evil eye contact thing in large cities in the wrong hood to the wrong one/group of ppl - you'll end up dead
why?
insecure lunatics who don't hold/have any meaning/value to life ... yours or theirs
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Originally posted by VAQ
In contrast, I have always found the people in and around Kansas City, MO to be very open and friendly, easily engaged in conversation and unconcerned about making direct eye contact.
Ahhh, KC. The San Francisco of the Midwest.
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Eagler, quit looking at me funny Biaotch.
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Originally posted by VAQ
In contrast, I have always found the people in and around Kansas City, MO to be very open and friendly, easily engaged in conversation and unconcerned about making direct eye contact.
Not just Eye Contact, these people will actually stare at you. It's wierd man.
-Sikboy
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What Vaq and Eagler said. Most people will avert their eyes- others will take it as a challenge. Point is (and Vaq illustrated this beautifully) eye contact means different things in different parts of the country. Our friends in Florida may have found themselves in a situation unfamiliar, and misinterpreted the woman's look.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Eagler, quit looking at me funny Biaotch.
I would but you are quite funny looking :)