Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: eskimo2 on September 15, 2002, 10:01:40 PM
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Poll: Who still finds AH unplayable because of the CTD bug? / Who's had their problems fixed with one of the patches?
Unplayable?
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Fixed?
eskimo
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Still unplayable.
eskimo
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Actually, since the patch I have had only one or two CTDs. I've even entered into a few tail spins which is a prime time for the bug to come out of its burrow.
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fixed
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The only problem Ive been having the past three or so weeks is when I switch arenas or when I hit the fly button I *sometimes get sent to the desktop but thats been happening for a long time now.
* maybe three or four times
Another problem I have is when I switch between the 51B and 51D my convergence on the 51D always seems to find the blue pair dropped back from 400 to 300. I use 400 for both ponies.
As far as the 1.10 lock-ups are concerned I havent had any for a while.
FYI
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I've had two CTD's since 1.10 was released. One was from shooting a chute. The other I don't remember the circumstances.
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fixed
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So far its playable.
Sometimes connectionprobs but its normal.
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mine have been fixed, no longer do I avoid buff formations.
Though occasionally when selecting runway or hanger to fly it'll CTD.
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They are still there, in about the same frequency I've had during all of 1.10. Sometimes I can play for an hour or two without a CTD, others I can't run AH for more than 5 min before crash.
BoB pretty much sums it up. I had time to participate in frame 3 and 4. Frame 3 I was logged on in the SEA for more than 3 hours. For frame 4 I couldn't stay on to get plane off ground.
Already sent a number of films in, but I'll keep sending.
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I have not had any since the latest patch.
New machine with G4 Ti4200. I rarely had any with my older machine with the Voodoo 5 either, only with 1.10 before the patches.
I think some of you that still have consistant CTD's have underlying system problems. Not all probably, but some. If you still get regular CTD's, you might want to post your problems and systems details in the Tech forum so we can have a look and maybe make some recommendations. It's not always the software. :)
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fixed after last patch
44MAG
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fixed
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Re-upped and gave it a try. A few hours now with no CTD. Looks like it's fixed for me.
Arfann/Gronk/???
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I only CTD now as I inform my squad that I’m carrying a handful of scalps and I ‘m lining up on the runway to land. :D :D :D
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last Tod have som problems
On CAP discoded when running recorder/my foult , i clean up film directory and now works fine/
no ctd during flight
its ok so farr
ramzey
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I get many CTDs from this patch.
I've sent some CTD films to HT though.
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I've lost UDP and host connection on every session since last patch.
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still need some work but playable
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I still get the CTD's. They seem to be random and I do get to finish a flight on occasion. Other times I get the ctd as soom as I click out of the tower to the plane.
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CTD's greatly reduced, very playable.
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My currnet problem is not AH related, at least I don't thinks so. It seems there is some sort of plug and play conflict between my ABIT Media XP and my Cougar. Since I've unplugged my Cougar I've had zero problems with my machine. Prior to that I'd have about a one in ten shot of having WinXP hang during bootup with the blue screen of death (specific to plug and play). Once that happens, the only way to get the machine to boot WinXP is to reset the BIOS.
Right now it's easier just to unplug the Cougar as I haven't had any time to troubleshoot further.
-Smut
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fixed
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Cant comment yet, I have an issue with RoadRunner right now, sending someone out on Wed to check the lines, unusally high transmission rates causing my modem to be disconnected from RR's server.
Also running Pingplotter and was seeing a lot of packet loss in BBN servers in Atlanta on some nights and ATT Servers in Californina on other nights.
SMUTT, try reloading XP, maybe even reformat and reload.
I had a very similar issue with XP. Installed a new Hercules 64mg video card couple of months ago and it worked fine. Ever since I got back from the Con my pc would fail on boot up and lock up, and never in the same place, sometimes at the Bios it would lock and sometimes all they way to XP loading then it would lock up.
Now other games work fine, but when I boot up AH my screen would lockup when I started to fly. Lowered the Video down a notch and its OK, but I think there is an issue with my video drivers and XP. Also just got a X45 setup and it may not be stable with XP either. Supposed to be some new drivers out this month for Saitek and XP.
AirScrew
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HT sent me this today about my problem with loss of UDP and then ISP disco. I have no got the time tonight to check into it but if it works for me I'll post back.
Hmmm,...try doing a traceroute or a PingPlot. Also,..make sure your modem
is not sharing an interrupt with something like the sound card or USB
device. This would cause those symptoms.
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I have had no random CTD's since the patch.
However, I HAVE had some what I call "non-random CTD's".
Since the last patch, every single time I have downloaded a terrain upon entering an arena, I get CTD'd when I try to spawn. Every single time (four times total now so far). Upon restarting AH everything works perfectly again until the next time I need to download a terrain.
Has anyone else noticed this sort of pattern?
J_A_B
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I still get them but 90% LESS often if i dont use transmit on AH vox.
if you guys are getting CTDs regular try not using vox.seemed to cure mine almost completely.
problem of course is ive had to stop talking!!! terrible loss for all concerned!! Im surprised people havent started to complain about this terrible loss to their nights flying than just silly CTD's :D :o :D :cool:
P.s. just in case this might help HTC this is how it often happens:
I transmit for a while talking away happily then after maybe 5 mins online i get a sudden lost udp message and im dumped to desktop.
weird thing is then when i return to the arena i have horrendous corrupted sound which would make the hairs on a russian lumberjacks back curl!(even tighter :)) high pitched screeches etc.only way to get it back to normal is a total reboot.restarting AH doesnt help.
I havent noticed any similar event causing the CTD like bombers nearby or anything.Just that when i stopped using vox they pretty much stopped happening.Could this have something to do with the part of the programme that decides proximity? as in decides you are within range of vox or not? just a wild stab in the dark with a claymore ;)
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Maybe I should point out I never, ever transmit on vox (don't even have a functional mic).
Could the use of Vox be a pattern?
J_A_B
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Very stable.
Plus I transitioned my PC, went from a 1Ghz Celeron with a P3V4X board, Geforce 2MX, and SB Live, to a Athlon 2100XP+ with an A7V333 board with onboard sound, and a GF3Ti200.
Both systems were stable after the 1.10 patch that solved the buff formation crashes.
The thing that never changed was my net connection, I run a W2K Server with Winroute and a PCI ADSL modem. Its very stable, and I suspect 90% of peoples problems are their net connections.
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fixed
only voice is a little bit messed up
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So far so good. I was getting a few crashes still but I did a thorough system cleaning, reinstalled drivers, rearranged some IRQs and everything is working fine.
I get dropped or UDP to TCP sometimes but that is an internet problem somewhere along the way.
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No CTD's nor disco's here at all.
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Ah... thought Eskimo had bumped this since he found the problem with his PC. He's explained it here (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67476).
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Stable...but then never really had a problem
Tronsky
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Stable Now Not one CTD or Lockup Since, New HD, F-Disk and
Format, Fresh install of XP Pro. :)
Moto_MOL
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No CTD since new motherboard/CPU and I disabled the onboard sound chip.
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I had a problem with vox also and read a post about lowering direct X sound settings from full acceleration to something lower. It did seem to work at the time.
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Still have CTD's but they have slowed down some. Now I can occasionally finish a flight.
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Very unstable.
Yesterday, I have changed PC to Thunderbird 1.4GHz from Coppermine 800MHz, and reinstalled Windows 98 completly, however CTDs happen a lot. :(
I installed Aces High V1.10 P7 full (AH1107.EXE).
My System:
AMD Thunderbird 1.4GHz (133*10.5 - 1.75V - TEMP 45.0C/113F)
ABIT KT7A
Micron PC133 DIMM 512MB
Canopus X20 GeForce 3 (3140whql-w9x)
Creative SoundBlaster Live! (Liveware 3.0)
Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controller
PLANEX FW-100TX/TXL Fast Ethernet Adapter
C: IBM IDE HDD 6.4GB
D: IBM IDE HDD 14.3GB
PLEXTOR PX-W124TS CD-RW
Matsushita PD-2 LF-D100 DVD-RAM
Mitsubishi RDF171H 17inch Monitor
Windows 98 Japanese Edition
DirectX 8.1 English Version
Hope it would help.
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How do you connect to the net mitsu?
And the SB Live is a good place to start.
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I only get a CTD when I click on a runway to takeoff...And this happens very occasionally,maybe 1 outta 20 launches.
No biggie for me...
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Mitsu,..did you install all the software that came with the SB card/CD? (I hope not).
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Vulcan,
My connection is ADSL 1.5MBps.
Skuzzy,
No, that's LiveWare 3.0 which I downloaded from Creative official website (although it's no longer available for Win9x users - I mean that Creative has deleted it from web). Should I try installing the driver from old SBLive!/CD?
BTW - I forgot to write this, my keyboard is Microsoft Internet Keyboard Pro and PS/2 Intelli Mouse.
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Sry Mitsu
im allways CDT when pick up your type_2 gunsight, anyone noticed that?
And secound:
I was burn new hardware modem, and back to old zoltrix /winmodem/ . Now quite often loose UDP, and when somone try to cross my firewall discoed me from AH and CTD
ramzey
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Problem Finally Solved! 3.5 hours disco free!
My problem appears to be solved, here's the story, coppied from the hardware forum:
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I've been unable to play AH for nearly 3 months all because 160 pins on my motherboard needed jumpers.
It all started with a inherited AMD 1400, ECS K7AMA mobo, 256 DDR RAM PC. My old P-II 350 had frame rates of 5 to 25 and was killing my gameplay, the 1400 sounded like a huge improvement. When I got it, the system worked and played AH without problems. I determined that the video card was junk and replaced it with a GeForce Ti4200. All was well. AH played well with great frame rates.
Then 1.10 came out.
I started getting CTDs, figured it would be fixed in the next patch or two. Afterall, AH ran well before 1.10...
Then it started rebooting itself randomly.
Then I got more and more CTDs as the patches came out. Very soon, AH was unplayable.
Rebooting became more frequent.
So, I figured, maybe it wasn't AH, maybe something went bad about the same time 1.10 came out.
Clearly the power supply was bad, I replaced it and the rebooting went away.
But, the CTDs were there to stay.
My problem in analyzing the situation was that I assumed that a part went bad, since it worked fine before 1.10. It never occurred to me that the MoBo was set up incorrectly from the get go.
I ended up reformatting the HDD, loading Windows several times, replacing the HDD (it really was bad on top of it all), and buying a new stick of 512 DDR RAM.
Last night I was looking for the GeForce manual (thinking maybe it went bad) and came across the K7AMA MoBo manual. While comparing the jumper settings in the manual to the actual settings on the MoBo, I found that it never was set for DDR RAM. There are 160 pins that needed 8 X 10 X 2 jumpers. The jumpers were there, but only clipped onto one side of the pins.
I moved the jumpers, and AH now plays CTD free! Last night I flew for 3.5 hours without a CTD!
I'm guessing that 1.10 must be more sensitive and not quite as stable as 1.09. I can't imagine how else 1.09 ran so well on the same system.
I suppose that's it's OK in the long run because I just started a new job that I was totally unprepared for, and didn't need my AH addiction getting in the way.
Anyway, my system appears to be fixed, and I'm back! (And am still as retarded as ever)
eskimo
Finally, 3.5 hours disco free!
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I think Eskimo is happy.
:D
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Originally posted by ramzey
Sry Mitsu
im allways CDT when pick up your type_2 gunsight, anyone noticed that?
Thanks, I will try deleting it and use default sights.
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Heck, got 3 CTDs at fleet just now.
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OK, I'm gonna re-install windows completly to kill liveware 3.0 from now in accordance with Skuzzy's advice.
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We have almost the same configuration except the network card and the Adaptec.
Did you have updated your 4N1 ?
http://ftp://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/4in1/VIA_4in1_443v.zip
and get ride of the liveware it's pure junk
You can desactivate the SB16 emulation it just for backward dos compatibility.
Last point can you try with another ISP ? from my experience with squadies it can have an impact (how much I don't know ...)
I use myself the Omega driver for the GForce (but for windows XP) try the Win98 version http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/omega_drivers/nvidia_w9x_omega_1182.exe
(it can't pork your config more than it's actually)
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Straffo, I already installed the latest VIA 4n1 driver.
I tried Omega and Datonator 40.72 drivers both too.
Now I totally doubt Liveware 3.0 like skuzzy said in MA yesterday.
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I wish you best of luck so :)
As you are about to redo your PC what about switching to XP ?
I didn't killed my FPS and overall stabilty was increased (using XP since 1 year without any trouble)
Last point wich in slot is your SB live ?
I hope it's not the one near the AGP slot as it's shared and can sometime product instability.
If you have some time before reformating I would like you to try AH after removing your NIC card and the Adaptec (move your SB live in anothe slot too if you can)
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I re-installed system, I hope CTD no longer happens.
Skuzzy, first of all, I have installed SBlive drivers from CD, and updated driver from Creative website. Is this OK?
Straffo, I will install XP at some point. btw I insert SBLive! card to PCI-5.
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LOL!
I got CTD at hangar. WTF!!!
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damit :(
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I'm getting a lot of CTDs in A27 (friendly field).
Problem is not solved. ('<_`+)
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I still get CTDs.
I will try to insert SB Live! to other PCI Slot.
Thanks.
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I changed a PCI slot of SB live to #4 from #5, and changed audio settings to 3/4 notch.
A lot of CTDs happen again. especially in flight.
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Only CTD's I get are "Host Lost". If you get "Host Lost" CTD it is not the software.
Now that we got that out of the way...
Often only way to be sure it is NOT a hardware problem is a clean install of OS on a wiped (read fdisk here) harddrive. You could very well have a virus or some sort of odd software configuration - who know?
I could work this out for ya, but it cost ya the standard $85 an hour :)
Seriously, I will help as I can but only so much can be done by remote control.
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Used to get them... Not a lot... but maybe once every three or four hours.
Changed to Win XP Pro a week ago and it hasn't happened since. I know zilch about computers so I can't even guess as to the reasons.
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the last pach fixed my CTD
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I thought I said it's not a disco.
If so, I will say "My ISP is crap" or "Server is porked".
I just crash to desktop suddenly when running Aces High.
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Anyway I will buy XP really soon.
I really hope this prob will be solved.
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About 2 weeks ago I started to CTD about 5 mins after i'd log back into AH. Now i can barely get away from a base without CTD , pretty annoying. :(
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Mitsu
Have you tried stepping down the sound hardware acceleration?
Are you overclocked? If so, set to default and try that.
Have you tried running AH with system sound shut off?
Tumor
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> Have you tried stepping down the sound hardware acceleration?
Yes, I did.
> Are you overclocked? If so, set to default and try that.
No, I don't.
> Have you tried running AH with system sound shut off?
Nope. How can I do it?
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Go to sound in control panel... disable it (don't delete anything, just disable sound). Should be able to get to it from hardware device manager under "system" in control panel also.
Sent you and email
Tumor
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HiTech...Thanks for tips.
Unfortunately, I still get CTD...
Tumor,
I will try. Thanks.
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Tumor,
I tried to disable SB Live! in Device Manager,
but Aces High can't run without Sound...
I got "Initialization failed" error.
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I got another CTD last night in the middle of a fight. Funny thing was that it also took out a few squaddies at the same time. We were in a furball near A4 and had been engaged for some time. There was no freeze or hickup, just an instant drop out of the game. The internet connection was solid according to my ADSL monitor. No errors noted. When I came back on at least 2 others in my squad were dumped at the same time.
I average at LEAST one CTD per evening that I play. The second CTD in the evening is the last as I do not relog. At this rate I am paying more than a dollar an hour per moonth to play. This product is not getting better it's still buggy.
I have formatted the HD, rerloaded all fresh latest drivers for the system, vid card and trhe SB16 sound card. I got the CTD's even with the default winblows SB drivers as well. I download a fresh install of AH after every patch as the auto patch invariably screws the files for the game. I've rubn out of ideas to fix this and am about out of patience with a product that does not deliver. The bug forum is nice but you don't get a reply from HTC there, just comments from other players. Makes you think it's not monitored since few look at it.
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Yes...Fester told me it.
I got 2 CTDs in Fariz's mission today.
After I deleted all squad's bmps in the squad folder, and rejoined his mission, I didn't get a CTD.
HT, will you check it?
It might cause my BAD CTDs...
Thanks.
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Originally posted by -ammo-
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Actually, I think Ammo's wife had him fixed (along with the family pooch.) ;)
curly
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1 squad bmp was just incorrect.
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Originally posted by Mitsu
I just crash to desktop suddenly when running Aces High.
Same here at least once per day. At tower or flying, no matter. The game simply closes itself without any error message.
BTW, no overclock here and this only happens with Aces High.
Uh, and sound card already running in normal setting.
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Here's what I found...
If I overclock my video card, I get a LOT of CTD all the time, anywhere...
If I don't overclock my video card, I only get the odd CTD when I try to fly a plane from the Hangar.
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Another CTD just now when I was about to type a radio message. Actually all my discos are just plain CTDs with AH closing alone.