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Title: P2p
Post by: easymo on September 16, 2002, 04:41:10 PM
I have never done any file sharing.  I am not a big music fan.  But I am curious abot this area of computers.  My wife bought a CD burner a few months ago,  its been collecting dust ever since.

  What do you guys think of P2P?  What  is the best (kazaa, grokster, etc. )  What about the ethics of useing it? I have read also, that spy ware, and virus's can be a problem.
Title: P2p
Post by: Wlfgng on September 16, 2002, 04:46:03 PM
file sharing programs are very powerful...
this should be enough to scare you though.

The city of Aspen found out last week just how powerful.
They have hardware and software firewalls, etc but one of the commisioners (some public office) loaded it on her machine.
Luckily the person that discovered that her (and her entire network) files were displayed to all who looked... not just music files.. but everything!

If you use a good firewall and configure it correctly this shouldn't be a problem in most cases.  Still, the point is that you should be very careful and make sure you know what you're making available before you go hog-wild with it.
Title: P2p
Post by: midnight Target on September 16, 2002, 04:47:36 PM
ethically speaking, I'm not sure. I tend to DL old songs so I justify it that way. The artists seem to be eating well though.

I've used Bearshare (can choose not to install spyware) and Kazaa. Both work fine.
Title: P2p
Post by: Sandman on September 16, 2002, 05:40:28 PM
Try Kazaa Lite... it's the same as Kazaa but without all the nasty spy ware.
Title: P2p
Post by: JB73 on September 16, 2002, 06:46:23 PM
http://www.winmx.com

it has everything and no spyware... it's just like napster was but it's run out of canada :)
Title: P2p
Post by: capt. apathy on September 16, 2002, 06:58:02 PM
I'm using morpheus.  I like it ok.  it sets up a folder for files you want to share, instead of letting it scan your computer for certain types.
Title: P2p
Post by: Octavius on September 16, 2002, 08:17:46 PM
WinMX is nice, but its so busy!  Many times I'll search for a song and find the file holder has a 30-40+ line waiting for their connection.  

I don't like Morpheus or Kazaa because of that spyware crap and I don't think I'll go back to them even if it is "lite."  

This is what the internet is for, sending information to one another.. for free.
Title: P2p
Post by: Gadfly on September 16, 2002, 08:19:59 PM
Octavious, that is like saying that that is what streetcorners are for-sharing drugs and illegal objects.

It is all theivery, justify it how you like.
Title: P2p
Post by: Innominate on September 16, 2002, 08:45:11 PM
They're more than music.
There are movies, software, etc.

Be carefull what you share.

Here's how I look at piracy:

A week before FoTR(The first lord of the rings movies) was in theaters, I downloaded a DVD quality copy of it.  I didn't watch it, untill after I saw the movie in theaters.  The only reason I don't already own a copy of the DVD is that I'm waiting for the uncut version(due in november??).

For the most part, piracy gets people listening to things they wouldn't otherwise hear.  Most pirated music and software is stuff that the person would never buy or use otherwise.  It gets the software out there though.  With the vast amount of crap produced by the recording industry, this kind of sampling is a big help.

The truely despicable piracy though is amazinhunks who burn it and turn around and sell it.  Just as bad are the people who buy it.  Same goes for commercial users who are making money off of using it.
Title: P2p
Post by: Octavius on September 16, 2002, 11:21:40 PM
Hehe, I won't get into it.  I do what I do and I get what I get.  I'm happy with what I can get a hold of.  Not all P2P file transfers are illegal.  Yes, I've downloaded songs ranging from Metallica to CCR to the Eagles to Filter.  Whoopie-dink.  

However, many relatively unknown artists get their work around via P2P programs.  New artists are discovered and listened to every day this way.

As for the piracy of software, I wouldn't know, I don't go that route.
Title: P2p
Post by: Pfunk on September 17, 2002, 02:00:31 AM
http://www.refosearch.tk



download kazaa lite it is a stripped down version which has virtually no pop ups and no spyware.  WIN MX blows, Morpheus blows, Audiogalaxy blows even more, I've tried em all and kazaa lite is by far the best. I  have over 3000 mps much of which came from kazaa, as well as just about any software title you are looking for.
Title: P2p
Post by: Duedel on September 17, 2002, 02:54:02 AM
Yep dont try Kazaa! It comes with spyware, try Kazaa lite and be sure ur girly NEVER EVER opens an BarryWhite.mp3.vbs song

She: "Duedel"
Me: "Yes"
She: "I've opened this song and it doesnt play but the hard-drive makes funny noises".
...

:(
Title: P2p
Post by: Masherbrum on September 17, 2002, 08:40:09 AM
JB73 uses the same platform I use.  It is the easiest to use.  

Karaya2
Title: P2p
Post by: Masherbrum on September 17, 2002, 08:47:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gadfly
Octavious, that is like saying that that is what streetcorners are for-sharing drugs and illegal objects.

It is all theivery, justify it how you like.



This is thanks to the amazinhunks that comprise the band, Metallica.  No wonder the amazinhunks wanted these shut down, James needs drug money every week.

THIEVERY is selling a CD for $16.99 that costs .50 cents to make and package.

Karaya2
Title: P2p
Post by: devious on September 17, 2002, 09:45:01 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Duedel
Yep dont try Kazaa! It comes with spyware, try Kazaa lite and be sure ur girly NEVER EVER opens an BarryWhite.mp3.vbs song

She: "Duedel"
Me: "Yes"
She: "I've opened this song and it doesnt play but the hard-drive makes funny noises".
...

:(


omg lol

A decent way to scan for media files WITHOUT p2p software:

Fire up your favourite search engine, and search for the phrases "Index of" AND "Parent directory", AND desired media format (".mp3" , ".avi") plus some sort of qualifier (say, "napalm" in my case).

It finds loads of Apache-generated directory listings to feast on ;) a little script is advised to sort the results...
Title: P2p
Post by: midnight Target on September 17, 2002, 11:04:08 AM
Thievery?

pah!

Songs are falling from the sky. You make sure you don't listen OK?
Title: P2p
Post by: AKSWulfe on September 17, 2002, 11:06:50 AM
I find it quite amusing that you can be accused of stealing songs by downloading them from the internet....

but when you record them from the radio, it's all fine 'n dandy....

Makes ya think..
-SW
Title: P2p
Post by: Masherbrum on September 17, 2002, 11:10:00 AM
Hey Wulfe, How about that syndicated show you recorded, now you've done it!

K2
Title: P2p
Post by: AKSWulfe on September 17, 2002, 11:11:48 AM
Yeah I should be careful, since the FBI is now monitoring these boards now (referring to a certain thread...) :)
-SW
Title: P2p
Post by: Wlfgng on September 17, 2002, 11:20:22 AM
fyi.. it's not the spy-ware that causes security problems.  it's the file sharing itself.

btw the Aspen thing.. it was Kazaa(http://www.nick-tucker.com/report.jpg)
Title: P2p
Post by: JB73 on September 17, 2002, 06:57:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum



This is thanks to the amazinhunks that comprise the band, Metallica.  No wonder the amazinhunks wanted these shut down, James needs drug money every week.

THIEVERY is selling a CD for $16.99 that costs .50 cents to make and package.

Karaya2


Couldn't have said it better myself.... look at dvd's .. their price has dropped just like the film industry promised....

we're still waiting on the cd's to go down like they said in '86 (whew.. can't believe it was that long lol).

on the side note program DL's are a tough call.

i have photoshop 6 free... but i'm NOT gonna pay $800 or whatever it is just to make a gunsight for AH. now if i was using it for a publication for my business, or to profit any way from the creation i made i would buy it.

thats just my humble opinion.