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Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 16, 2002, 05:37:38 PM
Finally, pics of my cockpit, though no Sharks teeth or cup holder, it provides me hours of entertainment.:)  Sub-woof sits behind the seat, creating a nice rumble that will rattle the pics on the wall loose :)  (Excuse the 640 resolution, its a digicamcorder, with still pics as an added feature, though only 640 feature)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 16, 2002, 05:38:37 PM
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Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Fariz on September 16, 2002, 05:39:22 PM
Congrats :) Looks nice.

Fariz
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: AKSWulfe on September 16, 2002, 05:47:20 PM
Be sure to lacquer it up real good Rip... so that if there's ever a stray charge, it'll go up in flames and be almost a real simulator. Atleast you'll go down in flames....
-SW
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Curval on September 16, 2002, 05:58:47 PM
Very cool Rip.  

An 'eclectic' cockpit..it is functional and yet forms a part of the surrounding decor!

(the wife's gotta stop watching those decorating shows...it's rubbing off)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 16, 2002, 06:12:51 PM
Oooh special effects eh SW? :)

This picture below is the other corner of the office, with my other box.  Wife is happy that shes finally allowed to use *my* desk for her email ;)

(http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/Landscaping/Desk_home.jpg)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 16, 2002, 06:18:32 PM
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Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 16, 2002, 06:45:08 PM
This shot is the wall that the cockpit sits along...some Nelson Galloway original prints, Classic American Aircraft limited edition stamps, the Boeing news the day the 777 flew, and a big print of the first 747 that flew for Boeing, called "747 Super Airbus"...ironic isn't it? ;)  A B52-G hangs in the corner, still waiting for a good B52 simulator to hit the market.....
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Wilbus on September 16, 2002, 06:48:02 PM
MAN Rip, you and some other guys are seriously disturbed! :D

Looks very nice btw wish I had it like that :)

Will take a photo of my "cockpit" and post it some day :)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Wlfgng on September 16, 2002, 07:09:45 PM
awwwwlllriiiiight.. very nice Rip.
OK.. you're done there.. pack up the tools and equip and head over to my place.
I'll pay for the skiing while you stay and build me one of those pupies!
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: CMC Airboss on September 16, 2002, 08:33:45 PM
Rip.  Nice and clean looking buildup.  You should go pro!

Are those are Nixon Galloway prints?  You mentioned Nelson in the post.

MiG
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 16, 2002, 08:44:55 PM
Er, Nixon, sorry, yes I did. Mig! Thanks
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Swoop on September 16, 2002, 11:39:32 PM
Hmmmm, I recognise that gunnery target inthe corner.....

:) Puck's still got mine.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: texace on September 16, 2002, 11:46:03 PM
Ya know...looking at all these rigs makes me feel inferior. Sure I've got and old 1GHz Athlon with a GeForce 4...but without that neat looking cockpit...I feel so low. :D

Oh well...I'll do goos with my cluttered comp room and headphones...
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Zippatuh on September 17, 2002, 08:06:24 AM
Nice setup Rip.
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Apar on September 17, 2002, 08:17:41 AM
Rip, nice mock-up cockpit setup, congrats!!

I can't resist asking you (and other players that have build mock-up cockpits) though.

Mind you, this is not mend as negative comment, I'm just curious....

The distance between the head rest on the chair and the monitor seems rather large (considering the small dots in AH and other flight sims in general). In my case this would result in flying bend over with my head about 50 centimeters from the monitor and not using the relaxed seat (sitting against the back of the chair). I know it looks great to place the monitor where the wind shield front would be, but their is a huge difference in conception between looking out a real cockpit and looking at a monitor.

Can you actually fly (and see what your fighting against on the monitor) sitting with your back against the seat?

I won't even bother asking how your son fits in that setup.

:D
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Masherbrum on September 17, 2002, 08:20:56 AM
I'm wondering what that bottle is on top of the computer desk.  Cognac, brandy or a scotch?

K2
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Apar on September 17, 2002, 08:23:00 AM
Rip,

I see your using the Saitek X45 too.
What is your experience with this cup-spring set on the main stick?

I used to have the X36, and it took me quit a while to get used to the much stiffer X45 spring system (man it takes Arnold Schwartznegger to get it moving initially)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 17, 2002, 08:32:40 AM
Apar, the monitor is exactly the same distance to my eyes as it was on the desk show in the 3rd picture, I use a lumbar back support, and the cockpit is two pieces, so you can draw the front half in closer.  I do tend to "lean" forward when tanking to get a better look at the little pixels!
I do not actually rest my head against the head rest.

No problems with the springs on the X45, this coming from someone who used to use (20 lbs springs) a TM F22 stick!  I like the stiffness, the X36 was not stiff enough, and the CH was like nothing was even there...

Its Cognac, Mash, next to a WW2 B17 pilots photo album.  Both very old, but of course, the Cognac bottle is empty! ;)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Apar on September 17, 2002, 08:38:07 AM
Thx for the info. You're obviously have much better eye sight then me and you're much stronger, :)

Thinking about building a semi cock pit setup myself, something that'll alow me to sit back while flying. My current setup makes me fly leaning forward, which is not so good for multiple ours online flying (for me anyway)

Cheers,

Apar
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 17, 2002, 08:41:16 AM
One note: The cockpit was originally designed to hold the keyboard up at a 45 deg angle, that way, you could bring that front half with the monitor almost up to face...I chose to rest in a traditional manner so I could type!(It is hinged, so I can flip it up to get in and out.)

You could also make adjustment in the way the seat sits in too.
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Apar on September 17, 2002, 08:42:14 AM
I'm still happy that my eye sight is not as bad as GLASSESS. He's flying with his nose pressed against the monitor and has me fly lead to point out the way for him.

During dusk, dawn and night he's flying with a open canopy sticking his arms out and 'feeling the way clear'. Makes ya kind of wonder why he's still a good stick in AH!!

May the 'Force' be with you.

:D
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: LePaul on September 17, 2002, 09:04:44 AM
Rip

Noting the position of the X45 stick and the wall outlet, you are one hard right bank away from a 110 volt "surprise"   :)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Wlfgng on September 17, 2002, 09:10:36 AM
simulates electrical failure/fire
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 17, 2002, 09:13:59 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Rip

Noting the position of the X45 stick and the wall outlet, you are one hard right bank away from a 110 volt "surprise"   :)


Hehe, actually, it doesn't hit the outlet when swung to max deflection.  I do look forward to the day we have electrical impulse seats that give you a "shock" when your taking hits! ;)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: LePaul on September 17, 2002, 10:04:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort


Hehe, actually, it doesn't hit the outlet when swung to max deflection.  I do look forward to the day we have electrical impulse seats that give you a "shock" when your taking hits! ;)


Electric hits?

Ah...memories of my old Psychology 101 labs come to mind...
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Puck on September 17, 2002, 11:33:31 AM
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Originally posted by Apar
The distance between the head rest on the chair and the monitor seems rather large (considering the small dots in AH and other flight sims in general). In my case this would result in flying bend over with my head about 50 centimeters from the monitor and not using the relaxed seat (sitting against the back of the chair). I know it looks great to place the monitor where the wind shield front would be, but their is a huge difference in conception between looking out a real cockpit and looking at a monitor.

Can you actually fly (and see what your fighting against on the monitor) sitting with your back against the seat?

I won't even bother asking how your son fits in that setup.

:D


This, amazingly enough, is the prime motivator in designing my cockpit.  I sat in Sac1's cockpit and Saber's Flying Furnature at the con, and the first thing I noticed was the nose to screen distance.  I did some playing at my desk and actually paid some attention to how far I sit from my (21") monitor.  The cockpit layout is designed to match that distance fairly closely.

The other design consideration is stick layout.  Saber's flying Furnature put the controls too far forward to suit me; you get better leverage if they're in closer.  Sac1 put his stick in the middle, which I didn't care for.  I prefer the side-stick arrangement.

This is not to disparage the Flying Furnature or Sac1's design, just some personal preference.

Hope to get the shell for my cockpit built over Christmas while I'm visiting my folks (my shop is OOC).  I have a source and a design for my panels, and 98% of the guts sitting in the corner of my spare bedroom.  My Cougar is being worked on, and I should have that back in a couple weeks.  Climate controled, adjustable, and comfy.  Pity that won't make the pilot suck less...  :)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Apar on September 18, 2002, 02:41:06 AM
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The other design consideration is stick layout. Saber's flying Furnature put the controls too far forward to suit me; you get better leverage if they're in closer. Sac1 put his stick in the middle, which I didn't care for. I prefer the side-stick arrangement.


Puck, now that is THE reason for me to plan to build some form of 'flightsim furniture'. I won't call it a cockpit set up, because it prolly won't look like one. Main reason is to be able to fly more relaxed, sitting in a comfi chair without having to lean forward to have a good view at the monitor and to be able to control the combo stick and rudder pedals wthout my arms being stretched out and unsupported.
It should support my elbows while flying, and the rudder pedals should have the right angle relative to the leg position.
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: batdog on September 18, 2002, 06:32:21 AM
Awesome Rip! Now make me one and I'll send my CPP secret recipe from the ol'grandma bat.

xBAT
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: snafu on September 18, 2002, 12:42:51 PM
Fantastic Rip, My wife just glanced over my shoulder and muttered

"Don't even think about it"

Of course not dear.... (Now... Wheres that drill).

TTFN
snafu
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 18, 2002, 12:56:00 PM
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Originally posted by snafu
Fantastic Rip, My wife just glanced over my shoulder and muttered

"Don't even think about it"

Of course not dear.... (Now... Wheres that drill).

TTFN
snafu


LOL!  Does she do that when you're looking at porn too? :p
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Tac on September 18, 2002, 01:51:49 PM
GEEK!

(how much? :D :D )
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Revvin on September 18, 2002, 02:01:35 PM
Depends ho wmuch a few sheets of plywood or MDF will cost you, the plans are available freely here (http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.asn.au/62ndff/projects/projects.htm)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: muckmaw on September 18, 2002, 02:09:34 PM
That's it, Rev....fan the flames...now a touch of lighter fluid.

Presto! More Flying Furniture Geeks to join our ever growing army!


Muhahahahahahahha!!!!

Not for nothing, but I think Revvin started this whole thing, and yet, I've never seen his cockpit.

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Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Hajo on September 18, 2002, 02:14:30 PM
Aircraft Fanatic here also.  I collect Prints.  Here's one of my Favs by Trudgeon.
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Revvin on September 18, 2002, 02:14:48 PM
They also now sell pre-cut kits unpainted and painted if you don't have the tools/time/skill to cut your own ;)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Hajo on September 18, 2002, 02:17:40 PM
Another one by Phillips.  Titled  "When Prayers are Answered"

B-17 returning from run #4 feathered.
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Hajo on September 18, 2002, 02:19:04 PM
P-38s' FW's and Liberators.  By Robt. Taylor
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Ripsnort on September 18, 2002, 02:54:17 PM
Very cool Hajo! Wife doesn't mind those?  I have to keep mine in the office...:( Well, I don't *have* to...but I respect her opinions...

Hey, was considering a BMW roundel on the tail fin, Hajo! ;)

Tac, roughly $160 bucks with everything but the computer. ;)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2002, 03:45:09 PM
Nice setup Rip

it seems as the other cockpits shown here, that the monitor is too far away for me as I have my nose about 4" from the 19" monitor when in AH :)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2002, 03:47:34 PM
Ya need to try one of these now:

http://ivibe.com/

good idea, just don't know how well it plays out ... let me know :)
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: batdog on September 18, 2002, 04:00:03 PM
TAC... where ya been?

xBAT
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: Hajo on September 18, 2002, 05:48:46 PM
Ripsnort....you have the plans for that cockpit?  You did a very nice job my friend.  Considering building one myself when I get the time.  As to wife minding my aircraft art.....LOL.  Divorced 3 years, why ya think I have all these toys?
Title: Flying Furniture
Post by: SELECTOR on September 18, 2002, 05:52:53 PM
rip i notice bird cage in photo .. what type of pet bird you have?
:D
i have a pet senegal parrot called sidney....hes mad as a hatter when i play AH he loves the explosions:D