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Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 17, 2002, 06:33:44 PM
I was waiting for the same thing online ... well :)

Dedicated flyer since AH beta, I'm now burning out ... The population makes AH looks like quake more and more, too many don't care for their lives anymore and their main goal is to see how many planes they can HO before they die:o ... Plus I start not to share the direction that HTC is taking with it's sim. I'm an hardcore player, starts to be a lil bit too gamey for me.

In any case,

No more Spit dweebs, no more LA7 runers/vulcher messing a 10 minute fight, no more systematic HO freack, no more FW outdiving P47s ... It will be all the same but with different flying machine names.:D

Earth and Beyond (http://www.earthandbeyond.com/)

Frenchy.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: XNachoX on September 17, 2002, 07:15:22 PM
So all I have to do is sign-up (just did it) and I can download the extremely small (1.02GB) beta, and game away?  Or do I have to be selected or something?
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Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Sandman on September 17, 2002, 07:59:01 PM
I remember Elite... was a cool game.

I participated in the JumpGate (http://www.jossh.com/) beta test.

It also shares many similarities with Elite.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 17, 2002, 08:46:17 PM
Jumpgate is still in Beta?

No idea Nacho.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Kratzer on September 17, 2002, 09:34:09 PM
Jumpgate is out of beta.  Netdevil is actually here in Louisville, CO with me. :)
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Pei on September 17, 2002, 10:01:48 PM
I used to love Elite! Used to run it on my 32K BBC Model B.
I always ended-up smuggling slaves and narcotics and having to jump to a new galaxy to get away from the police Vipers.

Take a look at http://www.eve-online.com: it's a game along similar lines. The graphics look awesome
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Vulcan on September 17, 2002, 10:28:43 PM
No player vs player = boring :(
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: -tronski- on September 17, 2002, 10:35:31 PM
Had Elite for me C64, and then my Amiga...

 Tronsky
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Octavius on September 17, 2002, 11:09:41 PM
I participated in the closed beta for Earth and Beyond and its quite good!  Westwood is continuing a good line of games with this one.  Its currently in the open beta stage now (anyone can play).  The release date has been pushed back to the 24th (or later, I forget)

Supposedly, by Westwood releasing E&B, SW: Galaxies isn't going to be 'as groundbreaking' or 'genre defining' as it's said to be.  (These are other players' observations)

Gameplay is pretty fun, the world is HUGE, and it looks great (eye candy is nice).  Many neat innovations.  It does not, however, have many simulation aspects... player skill does not determine his strength or survivability... its more like Everquest in space.  Seeing that I've never played Everquest, that comment might not be too accurate :)  Its fun, download the beta and give it a try for yourself before the open beta is finished (maybe a week or so left).


oct out!
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Octavius on September 17, 2002, 11:14:19 PM
Something a little different that looks to be fun (I hope).  

Planetside (http://planetside.station.sony.com/)
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: john9001 on September 17, 2002, 11:53:24 PM
elite on a C64, also smuggled slaves an drugs in anarchy planets, the bad guys would send out escorts to protect and escort me in, lol
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Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: AKIron on September 18, 2002, 12:46:08 AM
No idea how much time I spent on Elite for the c64. Probably in the hundreds of hours.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Karnak on September 18, 2002, 02:56:39 AM
Elite on the C64 was great.  The Atari ST and Amiga versions sucked.  They took all the randomess out of it.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: bounder on September 18, 2002, 03:12:59 AM
I can proudly say that I reached the hallowed status of Elite. 32k BBC B and the saviour of any elite pilot - a disk drive.

No realisation fo Elite has ever come close to the cold simplicity of hidden wireframe that made it such a fantastic game.

The scanner, too, was an excellent design, although when you dropped unexpectedly out of hyperspace and saw a forest of contacts on the scanner you knew that a)thargoids were attacking and b)if you didn't have an energy bomb you were dead.

I did like David Braben's Frontiers for the PC. Not because it was a playable game (it wasn't), but because the ships didn't  do that mad WWII fighters in space thing. They moved around in 0g and 'dogfights' were simply impossible.

I suspect (but don't know) that Earth and Beyond is not a space sim in that sense.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Pei on September 18, 2002, 12:23:56 PM
Hey Bounder, what part of God's Own County are you from?
I was born and raised in Scarborough.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: bounder on September 26, 2002, 08:03:50 AM
Pei - I'm an immigrant form hampshire, truth be told, but after moving to Hull in 97 I've decided that Yorkshire is the place for me. Now, I'm living in the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire (Sheffield).

If you go back far enough (1971) you'll discover that I am actually Swedish, and as such I cannot vote in UK general elections.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Dowding (Work) on September 26, 2002, 08:32:56 AM
Hey Bounder - you probably don't live too far from me. I live just the Rotherham side of Meadowhall (i.e. Sheffield).

Earth and Beyond is pretty crap to be honest. Star Wars Galaxies will rip its head off and spit down its neck. There's no joystick support - everything is done via the mouse in a dumbed down way - Jumpgate beats it in that department. Everything seemed so scripted and linear - you have to do the missions to level up. It's been done so many times before - two years ago you could have called it cutting edge.

Star Wars galaxies is much more subtle. Set-up a player run city and be a politician, or be a merchant - it's much more of a social MMOG. Design, blueprint and sell your own clothes or weapons or armour with your own design names. Be a farmer or a hairdresser even!

And when the space expansion comes out, a year after launch, it will be like tie fighter on steroids.

I'm part of a UK based Player Association called Aartan Ridge. My names KobaDow. :)
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Eaglecz on September 26, 2002, 10:47:54 AM
Elite was pretty coool

i played it 2 years ago .. last time :)

just donwloaded beta version of Earth and beyond and im about to check it out ...

there is sooo many lames in AH, its easy to be an Ace ...
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Tac on September 26, 2002, 01:01:50 PM
http://www.3000ad.com


Elite on steroids.


I beta tested jumpgate... didnt like it. Nice art and music though, but gameplay was so horridly designed even the beta itself was lame to play in.

Earth And Beyond is nice, but its a closed universe per say. Only thing going for it is the multiplayer.

Check Battlecruiser on link above, its due to come out soon with its MMPOG version.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Pei on September 26, 2002, 01:22:24 PM
Bounder wrote

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but after moving to Hull in 97


From Hell, Hull and Halifax Good Lord deliver us!

I used to go down there fairly regulary when I was playing Rugby. My father's mother was from the East Riding (on the Wolds close to Beverly) but I'm a North Riding boy. Before I came out to the US I was living in Hampshire for a bit as well: Alton which is near Farnham.

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If you go back far enough (1971) you'll discover that I am actually Swedish, and as such I cannot vote in UK general elections.


I don't think you are missing much.
Title: remember "Elite"?
Post by: hawk220 on September 26, 2002, 01:29:36 PM
I did the Earth and BeYawwwwn beta..  there are some cool aspects, but overall its a bomb. Advancing levels is such a chore as to be work, and not fun.  Combat is in a very tiny bubble of maneuverability, you cant go to far along the Z axis without hitting an invisible wall that can trap you as the enemy hits you from behind..
Title: Re: remember "Elite"?
Post by: Innominate on September 26, 2002, 03:53:36 PM
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I was waiting for the same thing online ... well :)


Ever heard of jumpgate?
http://www.jossh.com

It USED to be a great game in beta.  After release things went downhill and it became yet another mmog.

It's the only game I've ever played where politics was the most powerfull skill you could have.  It's also the only game I've ever played where you could say a player has power.  It's biggest problem was the lack of a game.  The game was created by the players,  and those who didnt get involved were bored out of thier minds.  It's also the only game I've ever played where an unembellished account of a players actions makes an interesting story.

I've started wars between different groups, started wars against others to make it look like thier fault.  I've blackmailed groups for completly in-game actions.  I've had, and used spies in high ranking places in player-run organizations.  I was a successfull pirate, trader, and mercenary.   Not a single bit of this was actually built into the game, except for player squads.  All of it was done simply through dealing with other players.

After release there were a series of carebear vs quaker wars(mostly on the boards), a major cheating epidemic(which was fixed, after many players left) and the devs stopping virtually all work on it to work on a new secret game.  The game died.  It's mostly deterioriated to blind pvp, and players trying to get more money for no real reason.