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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: nucks on September 19, 2002, 04:57:06 PM
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I withhold my opinion at the moment, but I have expressed it to Htc. Please express your rants/ravings or indifference here.
MwNucks
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yes.
The small maps are too crowded, and during prime time, the only thing you can do on them is furball. The pizza map lets everyone do what they want.
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Pizza map is fine. Except for one thing for me personally the desert terrain gives me a headach so does the tunisia terrain. Hurts my eyes dont get me wrong its very pretty it just hurts after a while.
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yes.
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Yup
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Agreed, it's a good map, but the color hurts my delicate eyes. Whenever AKDesert comes on, I gotta start playing BF1942.
Not a whine, honest, it's just that the sand texture is painful after a few hours.
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Its good to know its not just me.
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Yes.
If you don't like the map, design one of your own and submit it otherwise qwitchersqueakin!
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Who's squeakin Maverick????
Clearly you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills as I have withheld my opinion and all posts so far have been mostly positive.
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Yes
It is the best map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
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The map itself is pretty good...a definite challenge. It's a well made map. A lot of Rooks don't like it though, and many log when they see it. I like it for the gv battles, which are fun.
The complaints I've heard is it's hard to coordinate ops without being able to see the entire map, and/or the difficulty in memorizing all the bases and their locations...for rapid mobility and SA. Rooks are too spread out to do much more than defend, protecting a base under attack. With this map, numbers are a problem for the Rooks. SOP is to get it reset as quickly as possible to move on to the next map.
I believe this map was designed with large numbers of players in mind. It's an ambitious project, and prototype for future maps. These large maps, however, need more players, and/or probably a handicap included to be completely level, game-play wise.
One strategy would be for under-numbered teams' bases to take longer to regenerate when captured...say two hours. If said team retakes the base, it regenerates faster and becomes "hardened" against further attacks. Implement this, and there will never be a numbers whine again...at least on the Desert Map.;)
Les
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Originally posted by nucks
Who's squeakin Maverick????
Clearly you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills as I have withheld my opinion and all posts so far have been mostly positive.
Who said I was talking to YOU?!?!?! I suggest you follow your OWN advice.
Please express your rants/ravings or indifference here. [/B]
Your first post invited comments and rants. I delivered. Now qwitchersqueakin. THIS time I am talking to you. :rolleyes:
:)
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Thumbs up here also, :)
Would like to see a version as a "Green" map as well (Fields and things) or perhaps a winter map, some of the tiles i have seen in other maps could make it a whole new experience.
TTFN
snafu
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Yes, the desert camo turns my 205 into a cloaked killing machine OTD :)
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I dislike the map along with the uterus of hell.
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Yes, If AH is to grow, and fully expect it to, what with the advertising and the demise of the competion we must have the larger maps, and frankely the smaller ones are just to small.
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GREAT GV MAP !! easy to take fields solo to. BUT seems to be warpy(any one else having this prob ??) If you have trouble see,n the nme icons in red as i did switch them to white,they stick out like sore thumb. :D
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Yes.
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I dont like it at all, I'm playing on H2H and it's just to big for 8 persons:mad:
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Hehe, I always looked at the Pizza Map as a kind of "You want a bigger map? Fine, F you... hehe" reaction by HiTech in response to the constant "MAPS ARE TOO SMALL" threads of 3 months ago... :D
Careful what you wish for I guess. :cool:
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Don't like it:
- ugly compared to the refined maps like "Black Sea" for example
- oversize/fieldoverpopulation encouraged milkrunning
- base altitude to high for my 190As - 4.5k in the canyons, 11k fields, come on!
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Other than that bigger maps are welcome - a bit more refined and good looking plz... :D
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Yes, pizza is a fine map and literally offers new dimensions to Aces High.
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Originally posted by Kirin
Don't like it:
- base altitude to high for my 190As - 4.5k in the canyons, 11k fields, come on!
Then fly something else...:D
j/k Kirin
I like it. Milkrunners do wonders for my K/S ratio hehe... besides which with a larger map people can actually get buffs to operational alts, practice multiple formation flying, etc. w/o getting tagged by fighters that can CAP an entire arena with 100% fuel and 2 xternals...get real!
My 1.2 cents (yeah, the economy sucks)
Gainsie
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Yes.
As others have said before would be good if each sector could be a different terrain ie summer, winter and desert.
However they could be limited to the amount of different tiles in a map making this impossible or maybe HT chooses not to accept the idea.
And to round it off theres nothing i like better than finding the AK,s milk running VH bases on their own map and chastising them severely :)
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IMO its a well made map, and obvious a lot fo work went into development of it. There are some problems with it though which, probably causes harsh feelings about it.
It is large, perhaps too large for a country that has to fight on two fronts; IMO it presents an argument for a two country format rather than the current 3 country arrangement.
It lends itself to milkrunning and backdoor tactics while 2 other countries are slugging it out; hardly fair to those who are working hard to accomplish something, only to have a bunch of milkrunners take fields without working at it. Therefore, the map reinforces the landgrab approach.
The country that always has huge numbers will have the advantage, the country with the fewest numbers will always be the one ganged.
The number of Vehicle hangars in close proximity to each other is strange. Usually if there is a vehicle depot, there would be a field or base or strat resource it services. On this map, there are strings of VH which seem to serve no purpose.
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Big is good,but the icons on map are too small and cluttered to see easily,thats what pisses me off,when Pizza comes on I go sheep rustling till a new map comes back :D
If only we could have a full screen map at the touch of a key it would help a lot.
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NO
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Originally posted by Joc
Big is good,but the icons on map are too small and cluttered to see easily,thats what pisses me off,when Pizza comes on I go sheep rustling till a new map comes back :D
If only we could have a full screen map at the touch of a key it would help a lot.
Do you not use the "insert" and "delete" key to zoom in and out on the map ?
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Hehe, I always looked at the Pizza Map as a kind of "You want a bigger map? Fine, F you... hehe" reaction by HiTech in response to the constant "MAPS ARE TOO SMALL" threads of 3 months ago... :D
Careful what you wish for I guess. :cool:
I think you're reading too much into it. HiTech doesn't seem like the type to intentionally piss off his customer base to prove a point. He also didn't ask us to build a map big or otherwise, it was all our idea. However, we did solicit input from HiTech every step of the way.
The whining began in early June as soon as HiTech showed a screen capture of the map fully a month before 1.10 was released with the new terrain. That was what, 4 months ago? Plenty of time for many of the whiners to show us how it was supposed to be done. What I'd like to know is how many of them have submitted a candidate for the MA to HTC. Anyone?
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I said it before and ill say it again the map is fine. If you can do better than the AK's quit whining and do it.
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I think the AKs did a great job putting the map together but personally I wish it was a map of africa. A bit of desert, a bit of mountains, a bit of rain forest.....
No, unless i'm paid I don't want to do it myself.
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I like the map... but I usually log off when I see it. Ya I know, wierd. I think it has to do with the lack of a good fite. They are there, just not as fun as the smaller maps because there too much for too many people to do. Personally.. I think the Pizza map should be "Timed" rather then "Reset", whoever has the most bases gets the perks at the time limit... sometimes it just lasts too long.
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Originally posted by Tumor
I like the map... but I usually log off when I see it. Ya I know, wierd. I think it has to do with the lack of a good fite. They are there, just not as fun as the smaller maps because there too much for too many people to do. Personally.. I think the Pizza map should be "Timed" rather then "Reset", whoever has the most bases gets the perks at the time limit... sometimes it just lasts too long.
The pizza map usually gets reset faster than the others. It's the map that doesnt often get stuck.
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Opps put this in the wrong spot,
HA! Glad to see so many positive votes on the Pizza map!
I LOVE the pizza map! And wish there were more maps like it
Far as I am concerned Pizza map is the best of all the maps
It offers something for everyone. Furballers can still furball to their hearts delight. You get some great GV battles in desperate fights over VB's
Plus you can get involved in smaller more personal skirmishes of only a few. without having to go to a seperate dueling arena.
I for one dont always like the giant furball. often it hangs my system up with so much going on in such a small area.
reason from what I can see when an arena gets changed quickly is because those dweebs that do not like that arena or if their side is getting beaten badly, will jump sides to the side with the most numbers so as to kill it off as quick as possable.
My feeling on that matter is once you join a country,you should be forced to stay with that country for the entire arena rotation. OR you should be allowed to change countries only 1 time per rotation.
Clutter on the map itself is a problem, but I find it annoying on all the maps not just the pizza one.
mostly from those damn chess icons. Another reason why each country should have its own color much the same way AW did. That way at a glance you can see who the primary threat is.
DREDIOCK
"If you love something set it free. If it does not come back to you ,hunt it down and kill it"
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I like it when there is alot of enemy online.
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Yep-
I like the variety of missions available. Finding a laszball errr furball is no prob is ya know how to use the ins & del keys to zoom the map.
400+ mph runs through the canyons are pure fun, IMNSHO.
I view the base height as a gameplay concession-it allows the Jug drivers a bit 'o fun-to the La7 dweeb's chagrin...
And of course, there's much opportunity to get by beeehind whipped in a gv..........
GO AK's
:D
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Originally posted by Joc
Big is good,but the icons on map are too small and cluttered to see easily,thats what pisses me off,when Pizza comes on I go sheep rustling till a new map comes back :D
If only we could have a full screen map at the touch of a key it would help a lot.
That's it! The only way to have an overview now is lowest zoom and no icons, altitudes, names etc. on.
The user interface with the clipboard format is the worst part of AH.
It's far away from the overall game standard (grafics, FM, stability)
Btw: Pizza Map is the only map where I always fight the country with the least numbers (usually Rooks) going for a fast reset.
In all other maps I'm a Bish basher (or at least I try).
:p
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No, I dont want it
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Yes keep it and take mindanao out of rotation . AKdesert is the only map that we have that isn't too small . The other maps were fine when we never had more than 120 players online at any one time but nowadays we have over 100 on all day long .
(http://home.satx.rr.com/suvorov/crowded.jpg)
When it's a map other than AKdesert you have two options, furball near your porked base or fly a getaway plane . The crowding could explain why there are so many in getaway planes nowadays and part of the reason so many choose suicide jabos instead of buffs . If you want to fly buffs good luck getting them through the red curtain around your country .
The only thing I don't like about the akdesert terrain is the rediculous elevations of bases near canyons . Do canyons really need to be 10k deep to function ?
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keep it, keep mindano-it does have the best graphics, as far as pizza map goes mighty deep canyons no shadows,also 12k bases no snow :(
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no
hate the framerate hit.
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Originally posted by Innominate
The pizza map usually gets reset faster than the others. It's the map that doesnt often get stuck.
Not this time by a long shot.
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It's really boring when less than 100 players are online.
Plz decrease the mountain's alt and map size.