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Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Hristo on September 20, 2002, 10:16:05 AM
Just found out that only 100 3 cannon La-7 were made and were used in closing months of the war.

How about perked loadouts like various wonder weapons for 190, Mistels etc ?
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Scot on September 20, 2002, 11:15:52 AM
:)  This is a good idea.

Title: Re: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Tilt on September 20, 2002, 12:32:04 PM
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Originally posted by Hristo
Just found out that only 100 3 cannon La-7 were made and were used in closing months of the war.

How about perked loadouts  


500 hundred odd were made before the end of hostilities only a few hundred saw active service.............

I think perking the 3 cannon la7 would be a good idea........... is perking based upon historical accuracy or a method of controlling usage and creating balance?
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Wotan on September 20, 2002, 12:34:16 PM
a little of both tilt.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Pongo on September 20, 2002, 12:57:17 PM
Yup. perk it with the 3 cannon.
add the 4 hispano Spit V as a perk
Add the 4 hispano Pony B as a perk
add the R4m to the 262 as a 250 point perk..lol
add the 75mm to the Ju88 as a perk
add the 6 20mm fw190a as a perk
add the 2*20 1 * 30mm 190d as a perk.
lots of fun...
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: icemaw on September 20, 2002, 01:05:55 PM
I agree add the perk loadouts the thought of a 4 cannon pony is making me drool. I got 6800 fighter perks and nothing to use them on cept chogs.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: J_A_B on September 20, 2002, 01:12:57 PM
The only 4-cannon P-51 was the British Mustang 1A

I love the idea of perking the 1000 lb bombs.  The 500-pounders were FAR more commonly used.

J_A_B
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Maverick on September 20, 2002, 04:00:27 PM
Lets just perk EVERY plane that has a gun larger than 50 cal.  :rolleyes: :p :p ;)
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Red Tail 444 on September 20, 2002, 04:57:56 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
Yup. perk it with the 3 cannon.
add the 4 hispano Spit V as a perk
Add the 4 hispano Pony B as a perk
add the R4m to the 262 as a 250 point perk..lol
add the 75mm to the Ju88 as a perk
add the 6 20mm fw190a as a perk
add the 2*20 1 * 30mm 190d as a perk.
lots of fun...


And add the F4U-4 Cannon Hog while yer at it!
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: icemaw on September 20, 2002, 05:06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444


And add the F4U-4 Cannon Hog while yer at it!


  F4u-4 cannon hog I had no idea oh my god I just came in my pants.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Puck on September 20, 2002, 05:34:19 PM
One word.

NAPALM.

Wanna spawn fifty GVs?  Go for it  :D :eek: :cool:
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Hristo on September 20, 2002, 08:32:59 PM
150 octane anyone ?  30 perkies, how about it ?
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Pongo on September 20, 2002, 10:40:21 PM
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Originally posted by J_A_B
The only 4-cannon P-51 was the British Mustang 1A

I love the idea of perking the 1000 lb bombs.  The 500-pounders were FAR more commonly used.

J_A_B


The second P51b prototype retained its 4 hispanos..
looks deadly...
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Karnak on September 20, 2002, 11:22:45 PM
I'll second the idea to perk the 1,000lb bombs on fighters.


The cannon armed F4U-4 didn't see service in WWII.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: whgates3 on September 21, 2002, 12:02:55 AM
the anit-ship missles thread has a bunch of stuff in it about possible interesting/perk weapons - the F4U-4b (cannon armed) would be a real killer - so would the cannon armed F6F (4 x 0.50 + 2 x 20mm)
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Red Tail 444 on September 21, 2002, 12:03:02 AM
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Originally posted by Karnak
The cannon armed F4U-4 didn't see service in WWII.


"That has absolutely nothing to do with it."
                                                                     -Col. Cathcart

:rolleyes:
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: whgates3 on September 21, 2002, 01:34:38 AM
from http://www.aviation-history.com/vought/f4u.html:
"Although it wasn’t designated by the Navy as such, the dash four was a fighter-bomber for all intents and purposes. It had 6 Colt-Browning .50 cal. (12.7 mm) wing mounted machine guns (the F4U-4C substituted four 20 mm cannon), plus it could carry two 1,000 lb (453.6 kg) bombs or eight 5 inch (127 mm) rockets. The first 300 of the production F4U-4Cs were assigned to Marine Air Group 31 and were taken into the Battle for Okinawa aboard the escort carriers Sitko Bay and Bereton. "

black eye Cathcart, or feather in your cap?

here is an USN F4U-4c landing (poorly) on the Essex (probably Korean War era photo)
(http://www.vought.com/photos/images/0426_048.jpg)
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: SELECTOR on September 21, 2002, 08:16:38 AM
and when will we recive our free AH calculator?
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Red Tail 444 on September 21, 2002, 12:25:33 PM
:) bring the F4U-4C (perked loadout) to AH!
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Puck on September 21, 2002, 12:56:33 PM
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Originally posted by whgates3
from [here is an USN F4U-4c landing (poorly) on the Essex (probably Korean War era photo)
(http://www.vought.com/photos/images/0426_048.jpg)  


CV9 was decommisioned in 1947
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Puck on September 21, 2002, 01:08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Puck


CV9 was decommisioned in 1947


Oops.  My bad.  They brought it back in 1951.  This must be between 1951 and 1955, though, since it was modified to be an angled deck carrier.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Wilbus on September 21, 2002, 01:17:28 PM
A total of 368, 3 cannon LA7's had been delivered to units before the wars end in europe.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Fancy on September 21, 2002, 01:54:09 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
add the 6 20mm fw190a as a perk


There is no 190 model that carries 6 20mm.  There's one that carries 2 30mms, 2 20mms, and 2 13mms!!!  Maybe that's the one you were thinkng of.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Pongo on September 21, 2002, 03:38:21 PM
I believe your incorrect.
the underwing duel 20mm gondolas kept the wing root 20mms. for a total of 6 mg151/20s and 2* 7.92 cowl guns
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Wilbus on September 22, 2002, 06:07:52 AM
Pongo is right.

There were several other loadoutas aswell that included more 30mm etc (tests were made with underwing Mk 103's but they never went into full scale production for the 190)
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Hristo on September 22, 2002, 08:08:33 AM
could be a way to introduce GM1 or MW50 to 190A, or 150 octane for Spits or Tempests.
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Glasses on September 22, 2002, 05:49:36 PM
Or fixing the 152 and perking it higher. That might work too :D
Title: perked loadouts ?
Post by: Angus on September 24, 2002, 08:56:42 AM
Add the Grand Slam, the Tallboy, and the German gliding remote controlled bombs. Spice that with a bouncing bomb too!!