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Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Ice on March 19, 2001, 03:31:00 PM
How have you guys enjoyed chasin down Ponies?
It's nice to have a little horsepower, now isn't it? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Ice
13thTAS

It's not the Big that kill the Small, but the Fast that kill the Slow!
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Mathman on March 19, 2001, 04:00:00 PM
Actually, now that you mention it, it is a bit nicer.  Though I must admit, I still don't run after many fighters much.  It is nice to be able to disengage easier now.  I just have to keep myself from becoming like Forest Gump: a running fool.

-math

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"Any American fighter near Orote Penninsula.  I have forty Jap planes surrounded and need a little help."
-Ens. W.B. "Spider" Webb during the Marians Turkey Shoot
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 19, 2001, 04:32:00 PM
 
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I still don't run after many fighters much

Ah.. but the question is how much time do you spend running FROM fighters? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
...or "disengaging" as you call it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Robert on March 19, 2001, 05:07:00 PM
Ice
190 dont run any more they just auger in when the see that they dont have the alt adv any more. I saddled 5 (yes i said 5) 190's up today and they all purposely augered. If this is what the game is comming to it is comming to an end for me.

RWY
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Karnak on March 19, 2001, 06:23:00 PM
As a Spit driver I have definately noticed that the arena has sped up since the release of 1.06.  This is actually quite frusterating.

I DID have fun chasing down and killing and F4U-1C while flying an La7 though.  That isn't someting we Spit drivers get to experience.

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For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

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-Karnak
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: StSanta on March 19, 2001, 06:25:00 PM
I'm back in the g10 for a bit. Man, a fun plane to fly  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).

It's weird; had a really good start with Dora, then i started sucking bigtime.

Then went with A5, was good for a while, started sucking.

Now, I started good with 109G10, so I guess g2 is next  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"You filthy piece of distended rectum! DIE allierte schweinhund!"
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Dmitry on March 19, 2001, 06:32:00 PM
Since the release of 1.06 I fly only and only La-7. What a great plane. Anything below 6 k is easy meat if they think they can run away. Specially first days of the release  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I wish I just could see the eyes of pony pilots who have tried to escape by running and ended up with their tail being removed. So far only Dora had ability to run for more than 1.7 squares (about 40 miles or so) but with the same result - dead  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). And yes Tempest gave me a hard time - but a little E solved the problem also.

Personaly I do enjoy the speed of La7 very much. Very much. Very very very much  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Best regards
Dmitry aka vfGhosty
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: mrfish on March 19, 2001, 06:50:00 PM
and, i might add - how do you like climbing with 109's? (for the la7 guys)
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: DoKtor GonZo on March 19, 2001, 08:27:00 PM
Same thing here, Santa. Started w/La-7 did fine. Then sucked. Then D-9. Then sucked. Then A-5. Then sucked. Best flight I had all weekend was in a damn Zero - even killed a Pz IV in it.

The only thing I can think of to cause this is that when you switch rides, you start paying attention to what you're doing again.

     -DoK
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: jihad on March 19, 2001, 09:02:00 PM
Lol Santa, your doing it all wrong.

You should fly the 190a8 until you get your mojo working again - then fly the other LW birds.

If you can do well in the main with an a8 any other plane is childs play.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 19, 2001, 09:06:00 PM
The damn Doras wont stay and fight, they dont even press their attacks all you gotta do is roll out of their way and they disengage and they climb back up till they out of icon range- rather embarrasing for such a fine plane to get flown so weakly. Ive only been able run down one of them so far. La7s are pretty good tho they will stay and fight. Please stay and fight Dora pilots please its a fine plane, give her a good workout.

Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: hazed- on March 19, 2001, 10:03:00 PM
Dora was the answer to my prayers.
I flew 190a8 almost exclusively with 2x20mm 50%fuel +DT and did pretty well with it, but always its poor climb made it prone to getting bounced and it needs alt to exhange for energy in  dogfight but it still had surprises up its sleeve   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
NOW i have that roll rate with speed and climb i have become almost EVIL  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).

i think i have 103 kills 39 deaths which aint bad, and La7's are no match   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) i have 14 kills to 1 , dora vs la7.
and NIKI's finally get what they deserve :
9 kills 0 deaths  Dora vs Niki   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

LOVE THE DORA........
and she will love you back   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
 

hazed 3./JG2

[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 03-19-2001).]
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: leonid on March 19, 2001, 10:26:00 PM
Chased down two P-51Ds in my La7, and caught them.  Really is a nice change.  When flying the La5FN you had to be careful, because it is very hard to disengage from late war stuff.  That also made it difficult to chase planes like a 51.  I had many a fight in a La5FN that I won position against a 51 only to see them disengage at will.  Not anymore.  These shoes are comfy, indeed   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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leonid, Kompol
5 GvIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)

"Our cause is just.  The enemy will be crushed.  Victory will be ours."

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Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Jochen on March 20, 2001, 01:35:00 AM
I haven't seen too many Ponies this tour after Dora came out but I have fought with two and they both died altough they were piloted by some hapless rooks which makes those kills less valuable...

It's nice to have speed!

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Vulcan on March 20, 2001, 06:11:00 AM
Yup I've humped the leg of a couple of dora's...

"Vulcan has 16 kills and has been killed 3 times in the Typhoon IB against the Fw 190D-9."


 
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Originally posted by hazed-:
LOVE THE DORA........
and she will love you back     (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

p.s. I think all three deaths were by fscott (ya alt monkey)


[This message has been edited by Vulcan (edited 03-20-2001).]
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: fats on March 20, 2001, 07:55:00 AM
Dok,

That's why you should fiddle with the joystick settings every so often, in case you are interested in flying a single type.


// fats
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: lazs on March 20, 2001, 08:06:00 AM
for good or bad the whole arena has gotten much more focused on very late war and 2-3 planes especially,

I would love to see some way to introduce the early war planes.
lazs
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2001, 08:15:00 AM
 What Grunherz said. What he said is what I've seen most D9's do and it's pathetic. Much worse than anything I saw 51 pilots ever do here.  Reminds me of what people were complaining was occuring in AW the last couple of years. I wonder if new blood have brought those lame habits?  Me and a couple of squaddies ran into about six of them flking over  20K near over one of thier bases in the lower left of the map. They had alt (we were 15k-20k tops), they blew it badly, lost a couple of thier number, the last two or three ran south further into friendly teritory and either alt F4'd or bailed because they never came back.

  LA7 drivers on the other hand are making me miserable  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

 -Westy.
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: DoKtor GonZo on March 20, 2001, 12:15:00 PM
Actually - that's probly what I should do, fats. Pick one plane (for good or ill) and get my ACM skills back.

    -DoK
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Glasses on March 20, 2001, 12:21:00 PM
Hazed I told you long ago Miss Dora doesn't love you , she loves me ,she lets me handle her the way I want her to. So shadup saddle up and maybe, just maybe, I'll let you see her on the weekends.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

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Besser tot als rot
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Yeager on March 20, 2001, 12:36:00 PM
I would love to see some way to introduce the early war planes.
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I cant think of anything better than a rolling plane set to allow this.

Although perks are still young in development I just cant see that system allowing 1939-1942, 1942-1943, 1944-1945 planes to intermix.

Is there any other way?  Because if not, AH will simply be game a forced by simple common sense to use only the latest and greatest 1944-45 technology.

Y
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: DoKtor GonZo on March 20, 2001, 02:33:00 PM
The other nice thing about early war planes: slower planes warp less!

There's actually enough non-uber planes here to make a nice mid-war set work: 190A5, 109F4, Spit V, Seafire, Avenger, Ju-88, A6M5, C202, C205, F6F, P51B, P47C. Corsair is too uber for this mix. Spit IX kinda the same. Might make for a nice change of pace for the first few nights of a new campaign?

    -DoK
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Mathman on March 20, 2001, 05:05:00 PM
Let me clarify my earlier post:

I don't run much unless I am at a serious disadvantage, though I do more than I did previously.  I only run/disengage when I am low on gas, ammo, or am outnumbered (and even then, I often turn and fight).  I don't run from any specific plane because with the D-9, I feel like I have a fighting chance against every plane in the arena.  I am starting to fly a bit smarter, meaning that my K/D ratio is climbing.  In the D-9, there are no planes that I won't engage, however, there are situations that I will alter my method of fighting.

For example, last night, I ran from Niki's when I was caught low.  They turn better and have guns that make it easy for a snapshot to kill me.  Therefore, I would run to get seperation and then turn to reengage.  I don't run back to base unless I feel like it is the only option left for me.  However, I will fight any Niki I see at around 15k+.  Up there, I know that I can turn and climb with them and probably better thant them in most instances.  They don't scare me as much as they did when I was flying the hog and cat exclusively.

Do I run?  Of course I do.  I don't want to push a bad situation.  Do I run as much as everyone else?  I don't know, I don't worry about what everyone else does.

All I really know is that I am finally glad that my fav LW plane has been added and it matches the way that I fly and fight.

-math


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"Any American fighter near Orote Penninsula.  I have forty Jap planes surrounded and need a little help."
-Ens. W.B. "Spider" Webb during the Marians Turkey Shoot
Title: La7 and Dora pilots...a question pls?
Post by: Ice on March 21, 2001, 08:20:00 AM
Hey Dok....

Grab that one ride that you prefer the most and stick with it...it is the best way to improve in all aspects and reaquire your skills (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I seem to be chasing everything these days except the La7...fortunetly, not many know how to fly it yet, which is a good thing for this Pony driver (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Interesting how the introduction of new planes changes the dynamic. I can't help but think that a RPS would add even more fun for us all...I fly only the 51 as does the entire 13th TAS, however, we would enjoy an RPS, we would just all fly the same plane.

Well, you know what they say...wish in one hand and....

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Ice
13thTAS

It's not the Big that kill the Small, but the Fast that kill the Slow!