Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Sachs on September 23, 2002, 09:26:06 AM
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This is rather puzzling a plane that weighs over 20,000 pounds can outturn and out dogfight a D-9 on the deck. I have been on both recieving ends and it puzzles me that a plane this large can outmanuever a single engine fighter. What gives?
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I've had turnfights/stallfights with Yaks and Spits and come out on top.
To me it seems as if all twins in this game maneuver better then most others.
In a long fight the spit will of course win, few turns the A20 can keep up with. Had several fights where I've been outnumbered and used teh A20 as a normal fighter, killing several before going down. Weird...
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Buff turn fighting is nothing new. B17's routinely out turn fighters over 22k. :rolleyes: Highly realistic.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Buff turn fighting is nothing new. B17's routinely out turn fighters over 22k. :rolleyes: Highly realistic.
Well, a lone C-Hog can also take out all 3 buffs-of any kind- with one good guns pass :)
Not that I'm complaining...:D
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LOL somebody got 0\/\/|\|3|>
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the P-61 (~35,000 lbs) was heavier than the A-20 (~20,000 lbs) and it could out turn P-51s, P-47s & P-38s.
from http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/docs_html/aircraft/a-20.html:
"Light, fast, and powerful, the A-20 was a good airplane. It was modern for its day, with a tricycle landing gear which allowed quicker takeoffs and gave it better handling characteristics on the ground. Unlike most twin engine bombers, the A-20 needed no co-pilot; a single pilot occupied the narrow cockpit, supported by a single gunner back aft, and sometimes a navigator in the nose compartment. Its twin Wright R-2600-23 engines drove the Havoc to a maximum speed of some 340 mph, leading some of its pilots to claim that the nimble plane was almost a heavy fighter."
unloaded, i dont see anything too weird about an A-20 out-turning a dora, after all the the FW-190s were known for their high speed handling, no? not for their ability in low speed turning fights...
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Can't connect to the page...
Had it actually been able to fight on the terms it does in AH it would have made one hell of an escort fighter with just a few modifications, maybe a bit stronger wings and some stronger engies for even greater speed.
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http://www.edwards.af.mil/gallery/html_pgs/images/attack/a20-3_300.jpg
Note the ventral MG *COUGH*.
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many appologies - i added punctuation to end of URL
http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/d...raft/a-20.html
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Had several fights where I've been outnumbered and used teh A20 as a normal fighter, killing several before going down. Weird...
me too.
A-20g vs Temp won 3 outta 4. he 1 i lost was a H/O
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bet the fighter jocks tried to T&B w/ you in planes you both knew didn't fight well that way.
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Spitfire and Yaks against me.
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There's no way a yak should be losing to the A20. It climbs like a rocket and the instantaneous turn rate isn't bad either. I'd use short duration tracking followed by a bit of zooming to keep on top of the fight. Eventually I'd get a killing blow in. The only bad point is ammo.
Can't comment about the spit, as I only fight them not fly them. :)
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What is the wing area of an A20?
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high yoyo bombers youll never lose a turn fight against one again...
beware dauntless, tbm, val : they all stall fight pretty good. use looping yoyo like manuevers and bleed them.
but the biggins have no chance in a stall fight if you employ ACM.
note use any fighter u like....even a p40b will out yoyo a bomber.
my 2 cents
DoctorYo