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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: gofaster on September 24, 2002, 10:47:56 AM
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Alligator Bites Off Arm of Fla. Man
Alligator Bites Off Arm of Florida Botanical Gardens Director, Doctors Can't Reattach It
GAINESVILLE, Fla. Sept. 24 ? An 11-foot alligator tore the right arm off the director of a botanical garden as he was weeding a pond. Surgeons were unable to reattach it.
Don Goodman was working Monday in a water lily garden at the Kanapaha Botanical Gardens when the alligator bit his right arm off from just below his elbow, said Justin Lagotic, spokesman for Alachua County Fire Rescue.
About an hour after the attack, wildlife officials harpooned the male alligator, known as Mo-Jo by garden employees, said John Duncan, an officer with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.
Authorities then shot the alligator and slit his stomach open, finding Goodman's arm inside. Officials took the arm to Shands Hospital at the University of Florida but doctors could not reattach it, botanical garden spokeswoman Barbara Bennett said.
Goodman was in fair condition Tuesday morning, hospital officials
said.
The gator probably attacked because it mistook Goodman's hand for another animal, said Gabe Duclos, a gardener at Kanapaha.
This is the first alligator attack at the park, employees said.
Goodman has been the director of the gardens since 1978. The 62-acre park is owned by Alachua County and maintained by the North Florida Botanical Society.
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Originally posted by gofaster
The gator probably attacked because it mistook Goodman's hand for another animal, said Gabe Duclos, a gardener at Kanapaha.
Jeesus, If was an alligator with a harpon aimed at me I would say the same thing.
"What?? That was an arm?? Ah man, are you sure? I could have sworn it was a weazel. I'm sorry man, let me buy you a beer."
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and I thought this was about an Assassin... sigh
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Originally posted by Thrawn
"What?? That was an arm?? Ah man, are you sure? I could have sworn it was a weazel. I'm sorry man, let me buy you a beer."
That is hilarious! :)
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It is? I'll bet Don Goodman isn't laughing.
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I blame Castro. Last year he sent forth swarms of killer sharks, this year it's killer lizards. What a jerk
-Sikboy
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hmmm..what wine would you serve with arm?
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
It is? I'll bet Don Goodman isn't laughing.
No, he's on the horn to his attorney about how much money he'll have for his retirement.
What really struck me about this story is that there's no mention of whether they kept alligators as part of the exhibit, or if the gator just happened to sneak in without being seen.
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Elfenwolf: It is? I'll bet Don Goodman isn't laughing.
He stuck his arm into the pond where an alligator named Mo-Jo lived. Was he competing for a Darwin Award?
miko
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
It is? I'll bet Don Goodman isn't laughing.
Would it be funny if the alligator kept the arm in his garage for a few days? :D
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Alligators dont "mistake" their food like sharks and other predators.
If they see something moving and it smells of beef, they will attack it and dont care if its human or not.
I learned this on Discovery Channel :)
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Sounds like the Director needs a Mike's Hard Lemonade! :D
MiG
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An alligator is NOT a lizard. I'm surprised some tight sphinctered science dudes haven't commented on that yet.:cool:
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Originally posted by Curval
An alligator is NOT a lizard. I'm surprised some tight sphinctered science dudes haven't commented on that yet.:cool:
It's true. An alligator, of the geneus Pnupoissonus, is (as the name implies) a type of air breathing fish.
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Originally posted by gofaster
No, he's on the horn to his attorney about how much money he'll have for his retirement.
Well, I hope he has a speaker phone cause there's no way he'll be able to hold the handset and dial at the same time. This is tragic.
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I bet the kittens are happy.
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What really struck me about this story is that there's no mention of whether they kept alligators as part of the exhibit, or if the gator just happened to sneak in without being seen.
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Did you miss the part where they said the other garden employees call this Gator MOJO?
;)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
It's true. An alligator, of the geneus Pnupoissonus, is (as the name implies) a type of air breathing fish.
Thanks Thrawn...spoken like a true tight sphinctered science dude.:D
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Hey, I never said it wasn't funny- I just said that Don Goodman isn't laughing.
This reminds me of the time I was about 9 yrs old and myself and several cousins and friends were having sword fights with wooden surveyors' stakes.
My Aunt told us we wouldn't be laughing and having fun if one of us got our eye poked out. My response- "Nah, Aunt Jane, the only one who wouldn't laugh is the one who gets his eye poked out. The rest of us would laugh even harder!"- got me spanked with a surveyors' stake- while everyone laughed at me.
Excuse me while I call my therapist...You know, these bbs are getting depressing.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Hey, I never said it wasn't funny- I just said that Don Goodman isn't laughing.
This reminds me of the time I was about 9 yrs old and myself and several cousins and friends were having sword fights with wooden surveyors' stakes.
My Aunt told us we wouldn't be laughing and having fun if one of us got our eye poked out. My response- "Nah, Aunt Jane, the only one who wouldn't laugh is the one who gets his eye poked out. The rest of us would laugh even harder!"- got me spanked with a surveyors' stake- while everyone laughed at me.
Excuse me while I call my therapist...You know, these bbs are getting depressing.
SPARE THE ROD!
Spoil the elf.
So this is when all your touchy feely tree hugging emotions sparked?
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Please, let's have a moment of posting silence for Mojo, the poor Gator whose only crimes were being hungry and nearsighted.
(bowing head)
(raising head)
We need a Government commission to determine the fesability of fitting alligators with contact lenses so attacks against humans might be avoided in the future. I am calling Diane Feinstein and Barbera Boxer right now.
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i'm not sure it's a matter of eyesight, i do think that gators need sensitivity training, they need to respect humans more an stop trying to eat us and our little dogs.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
It's true. An alligator, of the geneus Pnupoissonus, is (as the name implies) a type of air breathing fish.
WHAT!???
and no one called him on this? Sheeesh!
The genus of the American Alligator is ...... Alligator
It is a reptile and is closely related to the other crocodilians:
Order Crocodylia
Family Alligatoridae
Genus Alligator
Species Mississipensis
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Originally posted by midnight Target
The genus of the American Alligator is ...... Alligator
It is a reptile and is closely related to the other crocodilians:
Order Crocodylia
Family Alligatoridae
Genus Alligator
Species Mississipensis
LOL Great troll! But who the hell is going to believe in something called " MississiPENSIS"
Mississihotteensexis might have worked better. Crocodillian indeed. More like Cockodilian.
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You're right.... its too much to believe. What was I thinking?
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I didn't know Alligators preferred beef, or that humans smell like beef for that matter.
maybe Don needed a little reminder to use soap.
Originally posted by Animal
Alligators dont "mistake" their food like sharks and other predators.
If they see something moving and it smells of beef, they will attack it and dont care if its human or not.
I learned this on Discovery Channel :)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I bet the kittens are happy.
nah they're all dead, God killed them while Swoop was surfing sheep fetish sites. :D
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He was weeding a lily pond on Monday, standing in about 4 feet of water, when he apparently stepped on the 392-pound male alligator, Capt. Roy Brown of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission said.
"He did recall that the alligator obviously grabbed his arm, there was a twisting type action," the doctor said.
The alligator was a wild alligator that lived at a nearby pond and occasionally wandered into the lily pond at the botanical garden, where workers called it Mo-Jo.
Goodman told wildlife officials he did not see the alligator until it attacked.
They said the alligator might have mistaken Goodman's splashing the pond for that of a duck or wading bird, their natural prey. Because it was used to being around people, it had probably lost its natural fear of humans, Brown said.
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The man stepped on an 11 foot alligator on the bottom of a pond in four feet of water. The gator ripped his arm off. And someone suggests that the gator mistook the man for a duck?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh My! Stop it guys! You're killin me!
City folk!
Snickeringly, Shuckins ;)
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I read where there was a gator attack in Knoxville, TN this past weekend. Apparently taking a plug out of a Mr. Fulmer's rear end. Can anyone confirm this?
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Originally posted by gofaster
He was weeding a lily pond on Monday, standing in about 4 feet of water, when he apparently stepped on the 392-pound male alligator, Capt. Roy Brown of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission said.
"He did recall that the alligator obviously grabbed his arm, there was a twisting type action," the doctor said.
The alligator was a wild alligator that lived at a nearby pond and occasionally wandered into the lily pond at the botanical garden, where workers called it Mo-Jo.
Goodman told wildlife officials he did not see the alligator until it attacked.
They said the alligator might have mistaken Goodman's splashing the pond for that of a duck or wading bird, their natural prey. Because it was used to being around people, it had probably lost its natural fear of humans, Brown said.
And they shot MOJO why????
Did the handsomehunk Mr Goodman "forget" there was a 400 lb gator swimming in the "pond" on occasion?
what a waste ....
bet the next pond weed puller stays in a jon boat and uses a rake
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They shot Mojo because he was an agressive Republican gator. Had he been a docile Democrat gator he'd never had bitten Don Goodman's arm off in the first place.
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Eagler,
Don't worry about it. There are plenty more gators where Mo-Jo came from. Besides, Goodman had just as much right to be in the pond as the gator did.
Wonder if anybody grilled the steaks on Mo-Jo's tail?
Shuckins
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Originally posted by H. Godwineson
Eagler,
Don't worry about it. There are plenty more gators where Mo-Jo came from. Besides, Goodman had just as much right to be in the pond as the gator did.
Wonder if anybody grilled the steaks on Mo-Jo's tail?
Shuckins
Obviously, he had more right than MOJO - they didn't shoot him
just think it was a dumb move on Goodman's part and an over reaction by the Wildlife "managers"
did they think they were gonna reattach it? shoot and gut him to "prove a point" or revenge?
now we have a one arm pond weeder AND a big dead gator that bubba the gator hunter can add to his resume :rolleyes:
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Eagler,
Don't you get it. The gator attacked a man. If he did it once, he might do it again. They had to kill it, not only to protect other lives, but to retrieve Goodman's arm so that it might be reattached. Time was of the essence. They couldn't wait for the gator to "pass it."
By the way, are you a native of Florida or did you move there from another state?
Regards, Shuckins
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What they should have done with Mojo was paint a big USA on his side and drop him in Baghdad. I guarantee one alligator walking down the street will do more to demoralize the Iraquis than a dozen Tomahawk missiles ever would.
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Originally posted by H. Godwineson
Eagler,
Don't you get it. The gator attacked a man. If he did it once, he might do it again. They had to kill it, not only to protect other lives, but to retrieve Goodman's arm so that it might be reattached. Time was of the essence. They couldn't wait for the gator to "pass it."
By the way, are you a native of Florida or did you move there from another state?
Regards, Shuckins
Born here 59 moved out in 63
moved all over the place including overseas - have been back in FL since 74
I don't think that gator would have bit anyone then or again unless the rocket scientist was splashing the water 3 ft over its head
I would think the shape of the stump would have indicated a reattachment was out of the question, can only imagine what a 400lb gator did to it after his spin move. THe weed pullover was lucky he hit his arm and not his torso
and yes, it was the splashing which cause the attack and aimed it at his arm and not his midsection, ever seen a large gator attack something up close and personal - other than Discovery CH?
I don't swim or wade in bodies of water that contain, have been known to contain 400lb gators, I suggest others don't either
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Just between us, I'd like to be able to go to the old swimming hole with my dog without having to worry about the possibility of becoming a gator's dinner.
They may not have the man-eater reputation of crocs, but I have read articles by wildlife management experts that state that, as gators become more familiar with humans, they will lose their fear of them, and attacks will become more frequent. Much the same thing is happening in California with the increasing number of mountain lions which are losing their fear of humans. A number of people have been attack and killed by them.
Regards, Shuckins
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Just between us, I'd like to be able to go to the old swimming hole with my dog without having to worry about the possibility of becoming a gator's dinner.
yep, they are called swimming pools in FL :)
I'd like to go swimming/fishing in the Atlanitc/Gulf without having to worry about shark attacks but I can't do that either here
I'd like to go into the woods and underbrush without having to worry about rattlers
I'd like to win the lottery ..
They may not have the man-eater reputation of crocs, but I have read articles by wildlife management experts that state that, as gators become more familiar with humans, they will lose their fear of them, and attacks will become more frequent. Much the same thing is happening in California with the increasing number of mountain lions which are losing their fear of humans. A number of people have been attack and killed by them.
dunno about mountain lions but the FL gators are being fed by ppl thus associating ppl with food
They are animals with pea brains, we are suppose to be smarter than them .... suppose to be.
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When did Eagler join PETA?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
When did Eagler join PETA?
it's a conservative branch :)