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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on September 25, 2002, 03:06:16 PM
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The conservative movement is compromising to achieve power and ends up implementing watered-down liberal politics. When those fail, it is not possible to assign responcibility because both parties endorsed them and "cooperated" in implementing them or distorted their "proper" implementation and blame each other.
What the conservatives should do is stand firmly on principles and lose all elections - presidency, House, Senate for a dozen years. Any conservative who gets elected would push for uncompromising conservatve values and be in such minorityas to not matter at all in the resulting political outcome. I am not even proposing to throw elections - just not compromise and lose it honestly while documenting predictions and debates.
Let democrats have their 12 years. All the while a carefull study and educational campaign could be led by conservatives to track the real progress of unfettered liberal socialist policies.
Who knows, they may well work out if not interfered with, they almost worked in Sovier Union, Cuba and North Korea, right?
If they fail miserably, the population can see what's going on and who was responcible and chose based on real data.
Republicans can always concentare on the state level in that dozen years.
How much damage can democrats do that could not be recovered from in that dozen years? Let in 50 million mexican and african immigrants and give them citizenship? They would need to settle in some states and when people get pissed off by unemployment and crime, they would know who to blame.
Enforce their liberal interpretation of the Second Amendment? Fine, people can organise in State militia in order to keep their guns and training.
Tax everybody to ruin? So what, it's only money that can be made back once the country is returned to sane mode.
Let those democrats have 12 years to prove that they can educate diversity to the same standard as europeans and reduce the powerty and that legalising drugs would remove the problem (republican states can still outlaw drugs and abortions, we would than have a good comparison). I am actually for legalizing drugs and abortions, but I am willing to give a try to both options.
I mean, some people now living in america have lived under socialiss regimes and know what it is, but most have no idea and their love for freedom etc. is inherited second-hand from previous generations, not something they came up with. Why not give those people a chance to see who they really are and develop appreciation for american way of life?
Republican party can use "exile" years to work on their ideology and scientific foundation without distraction of politics. It would probably lose a lot of scumbags only interested in power - and good riddance.
Of course it's a pipe dream. Americans are too frightened of defeat to hold tight to any principles. A pity. Defeat in a worthy struggle is a great teacher and valuable experience to live through. Better for character than surrender on "honorable" terms which is going on right now.
miko
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look at the mess just giving them the whitehouse for 8 years resulted in?
Imagine if they had the entire ball of wax?
12 years of entire dumbacrat rule would ruin this country
why don't they just give the Republicans the same deal, 12 years without one of thier cuddlinghunkcrat faces on the tv?
because after 12 years, the dems/libs would have moved to Europe :)
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I have a pimple on my ass.
not just an average, run of the mill everyday, seen one, yah seen em all pimple... this things becoming momentous.
in fact, this pimple has become such a pain on my bellybutton that it may have a political life.
obviously, it's gonna be a republican pimple.
i'll enjoy immensely lancing the damn thing the moment it announces it's running for office.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I have a pimple on my ass.
not just an average, run of the mill everyday, seen one, yah seen em all pimple... this things becoming momentous.
in fact, this pimple has become such a pain on my bellybutton that it may have a political life.
obviously, it's gonna be a republican pimple.
i'll enjoy immensely lancing the damn thing the moment it announces it's running for office.
Sounds like it might be a Rush Lim-boil. Lancing may not do the job. Better go for an arse-ectomy.
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Originally posted by miko2d
Of course it's a pipe dream. Americans are too frightened of defeat to hold tight to any principles. A pity. Defeat in a worthy struggle is a great teacher and valuable experience to live through. Better for character than surrender on "honorable" terms which is going on right now.
miko
Theodore Roosevelt said it best miko....
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause.
Who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
Conservatives? BWAHAHAHA, there are none in Washington, ditto for liberals....they are both androgynous cookie cutter clones.
Democrat and Republican have become "labels", made more...or less appealing by buzzwords like "conservative" or "liberal" depending on personal philosphy.
Neither side of the political spectrum has a dog in the hunt.
It's time for a change in Washington...and neither of the political potatos (Democrat or Republican) are capable of providing it..
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How much damage can democrats do that could not be recovered from in that dozen years? Let in 50 million mexican and african immigrants and give them citizenship?
Or even worse... a bunch of former Soviets with their prejudiced panties showing.
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I'm of the highly unpopular and somewhat unrealistic belief that people should run by declaring those values in which they truly believe.
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clinton once gave standing up for what he belived in a shot. It cost him a gubinatorial election. He never made THAT mistake again.
In the end, we the people are responsible for who shows up in Washington. If we keep voting for a 80 dollar haircut, and an ad campaign, we will get what we deserve.
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12 whole years without republicans?
Sheeat... That's a *sweet* deal.
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Originally posted by Nash
12 whole years without republicans?
Sheeat... That's a *sweet* deal.
yeah, then we could really fcuk this nation beyond recognition. Sweet ...
We demand a federally mandated 52 weeks/years of fully paid leave of absence for everybody.
Welfare for everybody and everybody on welfare.
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blah blah blah yeah whatever. :)
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soviet union, cuba & north korea - none of 'em ever really practiced communism or socialism. they were authoritarian dictatorships. i dont think the real deal (not that i go for that junk) has ever been put into play on anything bigger than a kibbutz
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midnight Target: Or even worse... a bunch of former Soviets with their prejudiced panties showing.
We pay way more in taxes than we receive in welfare. Whatever prejudices we have, they are fully paid for.
mietla: yeah, then we could really fcuk this nation beyond recognition. Sweet...
Nah, it may be tough but not fatal. Look at it as an innoculation. It may cause a severe reaction but then it would get better for a few decades.
whgates3: soviet union, cuba & north korea - none of 'em ever really practiced communism or socialism.
Neither do liberals practice freedom of choice, speech, race-blind society or any of the other things they have on their banners.
miko