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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Load on September 26, 2002, 09:13:10 AM
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How can you improve your aiming skills a little bit? It puts me down to fail a target at 300 yds or less evn if he is flying straifgt ahead....do you use ZOOM view to shoot?
I usually fly 190s.
Thx for help guys
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try training with the lead computing sight offline or in the TA
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can you recall how to enable computed gunsight ?
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Originally posted by Load
... fail a target at 300 yds or less evn if he is flying straifgt ahead....
A few months back I was in the TA and had someone say they had the same problem. I ended up in level flight and they had a very hard time hitting me. Watching the aircraft behind me they were oscillating back and forth trying to get a bead on me even though I was on auto-pilot. Turns out it was a stick scaling problem.
The scaling was far enough off with the dead band that minor compensations caused large directional changes. Try getting someone to help with your stick setup in the TA. I think some hanging around the boards here may have settings they can give you.
Anyone…?
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PRACTICE....
SKurj
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Yes Zip...that is the first way to improve your aiming. 1st get someone to help you with your stick and heres the next step. I used to fly the F4U-1C until I switched to the Hellcat, the 50's fly much straighter than the 20mm. Every night before I went to bed I used to use all my ammo out in the Hellcat all 2400 50's offline and killed the drones. I did this for as long as I could until I got the MA back. I used to shoot 600 and farther with the C hawg, now I RARELY shoot out of the 450 range. Most of my shots occur from 300 and in. All my planes convergences are 400 on every fighter. Excecpt 262 and bombers. Now with the 190 its even harder. When I fly the 190 I don't shoot unless I am withing 300, and sometimes I will get lucky with 400 out. Patience and timing is the key. Patience = getting within range and Timing is all about when to shoot. Me and my dad used to get about a 6% hit percentage when we flew the C hawg exclusively. Now with the Hellcat, the 6 months I did fly, my hit % did not go under 12.97%. My highest month was 20.97, which I didn't miss anything. So just remember patience and timing is the key. And for 1 ammo load in a 190 just go offline and kill the drones, your hit % will go up big time. You will even shoot better if you just kill the drones with your ammo 1 time. You will see the increse in hits if you fly the MA that night.
I hope this helps!
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Also check your convergence.
If its set for farther than 300, you have it set out too far and it will actually make close in shooting more difficult. A few experten may use long distance settings, but when learning set it in the 250 range.
And then never fire until your under 500, preferabley 300.
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Thx a lot!!!!!
Do you use ZOOM view to shoot?? :)
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I'm no fighter expert, but I do not use Zoom within 800 yards. I only use zoom if I cannot see which way the enemy is turning.
Also, adjust your front view, unzoomed, so that your gunsight (I assume your using the standard sight) is just barely below the top of your HUD. The center dot should be on the verge of going off the top of your display. This will help you see better over the nose of your AC.
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My $.02 -- Go offline, set your ammo to the max in arena settings, take off and just keep shooting down the drones until boredome sets in. I know they are not very exciting targets, but you get used to bullet drop and get to see just how high you need to aim with each type of weapon to get hits, as well as the extra lead needed in a banked turn, etc. You'll eventually be able to hit planes that are too far under your nose to see when you pull the trigger (in fact, in most turing "deflection" situations this is required, particularly with Russian or German guns).
Also, work on getting kills at 300, then work your way into longer shots (again, with Russian or German planes this might be you maximum for reasonable results, just like 400 - 500 for allied aircraft). You can still get hits at longer ranges, just not too many kills.
Charon
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As a new pilot, your aim most likely sucks, a lot. There is no real "trick" to it, just practice. Keep shooting at stuff untill you start landing hits. It's frustrating at first, but your aim will "click".
The best planes to learn to shoot in are the US .50 aircraft, the .50 has a high rate of fire, and nice flat trajectory, plus lots of ammo.
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I do not use ZOOM when I shoot. I did at one time, and when I stopped using it my gunnery improved a LOT.
J_A_B
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Practice on chutes.
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This will sound nuts - it did to me when someone suggested I try it - but try flying with tracers off for a while.
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Practice on Fatty. :D
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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I'd recommend keeping the tracers on for awhile, especially against the drones. Get a good feel for the trajectory of the bullets. Then turn them off and see how you do. Personally I keep the tracers off. My aim sucks either way but it just makes for cooler effect, especially when strafing :)
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Tighten your leather panties,it worked for me. :D
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If Fatty's not around, try this:
***Get really close. Like 50 yds.
***On some shots I use the zoom, but never even close to all the way zoomed in. With difficult 90 degree deflection shots on bombers, zoom usually doesn't help because it restricts the field of view too much.
***Don't use tracers on a fighter, except when practicing off-line.
***Sometimes the time to fire is when you can't see the enemy plane because it's hidden by the your plane's nose. This is especially true when you're very close and both turning hard.
***Make sure your rudder is centered when you fire. However, there are some shots, particulartly head-ons, in which stomping hard on the rudder as they go by will get you a kill.
***My convergences are set around 250 for most wing-mounted guns.
***When I think of anything else, I'll post it.
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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I thougt of something else:
***It's a lot easier to hit stuff if your plane if properly trimmed.
MRPLUTO
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Try turning your tracers off - this helped my gunnery 100%.
Also - try a fighter armed primarily with MG's rather that cannon - they are easier to hit with and more consistant.
The 190 you are flying is perhaps the worst weapons platform in the game... I enjoy flying the A5 but with speedy 7.92mm MGs and slow-as-molases 20mm's aiming can be difficult. Your two sets of guns are being fired at different velocities and thus meeting the area of your intended target at different points.
Oh, and yes I use zoom. :cool:
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Pick one plane and stick with it for a while. Practice offline on the drones with tracers off.
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some zoom in ur view doesn't hurt
you don't want to zoom in too close as it gets real jumpy then
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practice until you can hit a shot from dead behind...then practice until you can hit a 30º deflection shot...then a 60º deflection shot...then a 90º deflection shot. Its all in the practice. I wouldnt use zoom if I were you.
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Use the .targetXXX command and shoot at it and get an idea of how your bullet patterns hit at diffrent distances. Set your conv at 200 and then check your target @ .target200
Then check the target at .target250
and so on and so on just to get an idea of how your bullets drop at diffrent distances and the dispersion also.
Learning how to lead a target just comes with time.
LLB OUT!!!!!!!
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I have read a lot of knowledge from others above, and I am surely going to try to make use of it.
I must say however, that I learned by trial and error in actual combat. At first I tried to get dogfights in the training area, but very few would play along, so i just started shooting down everything that was flying there! lol. Thats a jerk thing to do really, so I wouldnt suggest it.
I set my convergence way different than most people. I have no joystick, which means my mouse makes flying real difficult. The plane constantly oversteers in every direction, but now for some reason I am able to control the plane with the best of the pilots I have flown with and against...but still have trouble keeping a bead on an opponent at short distance. Therefore, I have set my convergence to 1000 - I have shot down enemys at 1600 with this setting. I get more kills from long distance for some reason.
Just another thing for you to think about.
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I read a post in this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65223) by Gryffin right before loggin on in the MA tonight. He's suggests that you hold down the num-8 key, (which is the "view forward" key) and moving yourself all the way forward, then saving that head position. So, when you get in close to the enemy, you sort of slide in towards your gunsight by pressing num-8. This is different from zoom in so far as, well, it doesn't zoom. Your FOV is about the same, but the gunsight is enlarged and easier to read. Anyway, it worked well for me tonight.
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some guys never learn like me
:)
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Originally posted by llbm_MOL
Use the .targetXXX command and shoot at it and get an idea of how your bullet patterns hit at diffrent distances. Set your conv at 200 and then check your target @ .target200
Then check the target at .target250
and so on and so on just to get an idea of how your bullets drop at diffrent distances and the dispersion also.
Learning how to lead a target just comes with time.
LLB OUT!!!!!!!
I forgot about this. it is useful becuase it shows you exactly how much your bullets drop. It's worth doing at least once. You can set .target to any range you want syntax is of course .target (whatever range you want - zero to turn it off again) You will see a target I think due north.
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Uhmmm.. I'm FAR from being a shooting expert, but this has helped me lately:
I'm using zoom (default zoom) when firing tracking shots. the idea behind this (in my small brain) is that when you're not using zoom, you don't have the same size/ratio compared to real life perspective. Default zoom is closer to this, and thus... helps me calculate the lead needed.
I think.
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Use zoom when you shoot.
Fly same plane till you will be confortable with gunning. Then you can jump to other plane.
Go offline, go up, shoot dummies. Go straight to their 6, then attack with deflection, then bounce them. You may want to set your ammo high to have more time to practise.
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Try this offline:
Get a Typhoon and set convergence to 650.
Sit on the runway with your zoom set to max.
Squeeze off a few rounds (tracers on) and check to see that the trojectory of ammo hits the center gunsight dot. If it doesn't, use "pageup & pagedown" to center the stream. Use F10 to save the view.
Use a non-permanent felt tip pen to mark your gunsight center dot.
Go chase the drones, as you get under d1000 use "pageup" to move up your view. You'll be looking over the front cowling from a higher vantage point. Use the felt pen dot as your gunsight center.
I find that this helps with high deflection shots. The 20mm Hispano rounds will travel a fairly straight trajectory out to 650.
You can map the "moveup" to your stick in AH stickmapping.
Keep in mind that high lag & variance will spoil the most accurate gunnery.
Good Luck
DmdMax
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6 .50's
Convergence @ 250
Do not pull the trigger outside of 300yrds
Practice
It really is that simple....not quick or easy, but simple nontheless.