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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Hangtime on September 29, 2002, 10:00:59 PM
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(http://www.cebudanderson.com/images/littlejoe2.jpg)
This is the bird I'm modeling.. "Little Joe". flown by Lt. Joe Cannon w/ the 357th in 1945.
The replica's 1/5 scale, weighs 18lbs, has 12 servos, smoke, springair rectracts, flaps and took lil over a month to finish. I had her assembled with the wing and belly pan on for the first time this afternoon, couldn't resist snapping a shot.
Gonna finish the graphics and nose art this week, and finish the radio progamming, do the run-ups and generaly not sleep till I fly it for the first time at next weekends warbirds meet here on Long Island.
Lets hope I don't piss my pants on the takeoff... ;)
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You're so unattractive when you gloat.
:D
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took lil over a month to finish.
Was it an ARF?
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Your P-51 fetish is getting out of hand :)
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Wow!
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Yea, I've got mylilponyitus. Don't hate me because i'm beautiful. ;)
rge that, fdiorn.. it started out as the world models GS p51... but mosta the arfluff'ness of the damn thing was crap, and it was intended for 120-140 glow. I freakin hate glow engines, and determined i could shoehorn a gasser into the nose. I then proceeded to beef the thing up to handle a real engine, which turned into an engineering project. By the time i got done addin smoke and real pnuematics with a tail wheel retract and redid the control system for real SAE amelican hardware and GS servos and tossed the cheezie graphics in the trash (wtf do the chinese know about R/C anyway??) it wasn't so much an arf.
She's sittin on her oleo's 5 lbs heavier than spec, with about 60% more HP.. if nothin else it'll make a spectacular lawn dart.
:D
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Hum, really great P-51 hangtime. Almost looks like an H model in the photo. What no weathering?
:)
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How do you build that ? Is it some commercial kit with all parts prepared ? Any way to put four blade prop of correct size on it ?
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mman i thot it was gonna me a naked babe from the ultimate ninja flipout castle :(
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Saaaaweeeeeet!
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What's the wingloading on that now? Adding 5lbs to the spec weight sure raised my eyebrow... this isn't going to be a "floater", especially given it was an ARF to begin with (usually heavier than scratch kits). Better keep that baby close to the field in case the engine dies. ;)
It's a "D" for sure- look at the step in the leading edge. H's removed the step and went with a smaller wheel.
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That's not a real 51. It only has 2 props!!!!!!!!
IT'S A FAKE!!!!
:cool:
CB
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Looks great Hangtime!
Now... if you start telling everyone you're a p-51 pilot...
AKDejaVu
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Do you know anything about the Remote plane sims?
I saw one at a hobby shop you could choose bunches of dif planes including a p-51, and a F-86, with a ducted fan.
the remote thing plugged into the puter and it had two sticks and all kinds of switches. Is this a good tool to learn how to fly a remote plane with no risk of crashing one?
this is the one I saw (http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/realflight/gpmz4203_b.html)
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Yes Realflight is a very good learning tool, but its a bit unrealistic. For example here is a I screenshot I just made from Realflight G2 and a giant scale P51 model shouldn't be able to do this:
Here ya go Hangtime i bet this woult really tick you warbird types off! :D
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What is it doing? Is it sitting on it's tail?
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I'm hovering it and it's spinning due to the prop torque. Its called a torque roll.
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ooh ahh well i never...saw someone gloat over something so silly as a model airplane there making.
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"gloat, gloat, grin, grin..." Yah, I'm gloating. I enjoy the 'ooohs' and 'ahhhhs' almost as much as building and flying. Nah, thats a lie... I like it MORE than building and flying 'em. Thanks fer the kind words gents... I've been walkin around with a sheiss eatin grin all day... yah see, there's there's a lil 1/5th scale 109 pilot I'm lookin for this weekend.... :D
Gator.. a computer based R/C flight sim is great way to get past the big killer of low time model pilots... control reversal.
As Grun pointed out, they ain't exactly high fidelity with regards to actual flight accuracy, but they sure can get you the 'stick' time you need to become familiar with the visual connection you must have with the model with regards to crucial spatial orientation. With the cost of a basic .40 size trainer setup, a r/c flight sim might be a real good FIRST investment.
Grun.. I agree.. flight simulators can suck. I tried that real flight sim 'G2' version down at the hobby shop and augered 9 times outta 10 on the approach. Meanwhile, down at the flying field in real life, I ain't got no problems gettin my birds greased on real pretty like every damn time. I was considering buying the sim, but decided I like the original method.
Deja.. LMAO! "I flew these back in the REAL war... wern't no police action, no damn undeclared presidential popsicle fart.. no, sir, we were flyin fer god an country, stampin evil offa da face of the earth.." No toejam.. I heard some old fart goin on like this for 45 min while he got his P47 ready to fly. Then he turned it into confetti. We all saluted, and the locals all muttered.. "good, he's outta here for another two years" hehehhe.,. all kinds in the world..
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Can't wait ta get home and start the run-ups. ;)
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Originally posted by Kieran
What's the wingloading on that now? Adding 5lbs to the spec weight sure raised my eyebrow... this isn't going to be a "floater", especially given it was an ARF to begin with (usually heavier than scratch kits). Better keep that baby close to the field in case the engine dies. ;)
32 oz to the sq in. Nope.. it ain't a floater; it's a frakin warbird. :D Yer 100% correct tho.. I'll need to be very careful with it in every flight evolution... stalls will be abrupt and harsh, landing speeds even with flaps will be very high. Glide characteristics will be similar to those of a brick. I'm using the most dependable gas engine available for this kinda application, a Zenoah gas 2 cycle w/ Ignition support. Once it starts, it don't quit till it's outta gas or impacted with the ground.
Pretty much what I wanted. ;)
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Nice , very very nice .
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Hang,that's beautiful,just one tip,when you fly her,remember to keep breathing :)
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RC planes are fun, its the landing part thats hard. Taking off is not too difficult. I've flown a few RCs before, not mine of course but was fun. Didnt have to land her but watched a few others lawn dart theirs into roofs of peoples homes. Always makes a big hole in someones roof, LOL.
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Flying R/C can be easy or hard, depending on what you model.
I've flown numerous .40-.60 scale kits. Some were popsiclecats, some were squeakes. It mostly was a matter of wingloading and powerloading.
Most planes are easy to land, but you have to respect the envelope. In some ways, heavier planes are easier to land. The approach is going to be steadier, and these planes are not as susceptible to crosswinds or gusts. Once down they stay down. The trick is to know the glide path and stay on it. Light planes float in, sometimes refusing to drop (once in ground effect). Bring a glider in for a landing on a short field surrounded by fence if you want to feel your sphincter pucker- you only get one shot, and it has to be right! Yet, those things can go forever in ground effect.
I think you have hit it right though, Hang. Make those loops huge! Avoid spins, make sure your CG is a bit forward, and handle that elevator smoothly. The other thing I thought of when you mentioned the weight was the strength of your spar, and what a sudden tug on the stick could do to your planform view. ;)
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BTW, where's the pilot? I have a 5th scale pilot sitting right here on my shelf with no home...
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Grun-
I had a plane made from plans once, a fun-fly type called "the Hooker". Swept wing, constant chord, light (maybe four pounds) with a Saito .60 4-stroke. I could hold it out just like the 51 in the picture, crank up the engine, and let it go. Yes, it could and would stand on its tail like that, and it could climb out of sight vertically, too.
Lost it on an inverted pass one day when I was hot dogging. Brain fart! That was without a doubt the best all-around flying plane I ever had.
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Originally posted by Kieran
BTW, where's the pilot? I have a 5th scale pilot sitting right here on my shelf with no home...
He's using a kitten for a pilot.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
He's using a kitten for a pilot.
Damn lucky kitty they get to have all the fun!
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Kieran I know RC planes can hover and TR. I even torque rolled my 40 trainer last year. But a big scale P51 is a bit too heavy plus the control surfaces and deflections arent big enough - which is the real problem. In realflight it hovers and TRs as well as a their big Extras and Sukhois...