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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on October 02, 2002, 09:47:35 AM
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2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Specifications
General Information
Price: $79,995
Miles Per Gallon: 10/20 mpg
Curb Weight: 3380 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V10
Displacement: 8277 cc
Horsepower: 500 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 525 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.8 sec
0-100 mph: 8.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.9 sec @ 121 mph
Skidpad: 1.15g
Top Speed: 190+ mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: under 100 ft
Slalom Speed: 70.0 mph
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Too bad it keeps getting its butt kicked by the yellow GMIS Corvettes in the American Le Mans Series races. And next year the Nissan Z will be joining the crowd, with additional commitments by Ferrari, Stryker, and Saleen (all entered this year but haven't been factors).
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Too bad it keeps getting its butt kicked by the yellow GMIS Corvettes in the American Le Mans Series races. And next year the Nissan Z will be joining the crowd, with additional commitments by Ferrari, Stryker, and Saleen (all entered this year but haven't been factors).
Dont know much about racing or the Le Mans, but are those stock production cars in that race?
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But its getting a bit long in the tooth, isn't it do for a redesign?
I think the current Vette is nicer looking and has more class.
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That is a new design, just released this year. The hood and alot of the styling is different.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Dont know much about racing or the Le Mans, but are those stock production cars in that race?
No, they're vehicles modified for racing at high speed with adjustments for driver safety. The closest thing to a production car race you'll find is the Speed Channel's World Challenge for 4-cylinder cars like the Acura RSX, Toyota Celica, BMW 3-series, Honda Civic, VW Jetta, and Hyundai Tiburon,where the emphasis is on handling and accelleration rather than top-end speed.
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Yep, the 2003 Viper is all new from the ground up. The wheelbase has been lenghtened (2 inches IIRC), but the overall length is about the same (1/4 longer IIRC).
The frame's torsional strength has been improved, the rear sub-frame has been substantially strengthened.
The overall weight is up by about 100 pounds.
The clam-shell hood is gone. The roof really keeps weather out now. The engine displacement increased, as well as horsepower.
All new suspension geometry front and rear. Bigger brakes, better clutch.
Not much of the car has been carried over from last year.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Too bad it keeps getting its butt kicked by the yellow GMIS Corvettes in the American Le Mans Series races. And next year the Nissan Z will be joining the crowd, with additional commitments by Ferrari, Stryker, and Saleen (all entered this year but haven't been factors).
Its about time don't ya think ... after the Viper basically dominated for the last few years in just about any series it competed in...
SKurj
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Looks like an S2000.
Just wait until Porsche re-enters factory racing teams in 2005.
Why build an SUV? So you can use the engine for Formula 1 of course! :D
Why build the Carrera GT and the 980? So you can run at LeMans of course! :D
Bye bye Viper... and Corvette... and Ferrari... hehe :cool:
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It's a GT, maybe, but at 3380 pounds, it's a barge. If you want a sports car get a Miata or a MR2.
Miata not fast enough? Go to Flyin' Miata, they'll hook you up with 300hp and keep you at 2200 pounds.
And you'll have enough left over to buy a used C5 Corvette, if heavy is your thing
[edit: link] http://www.flyinmiata.com/projects/pokeee.asp (all horsepower numbers measured at the rear wheels)
Mosca
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A Miata is a sports car?!?! LMAO, maybe for a chick :p
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psst; pardon me, newguy, but your ignorance is showing... that's kinda like saying that a Zero isn't a real warbird.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=402138
On the right track an unmodified Miata can beat a Viper or a Vette, on braking and cornering alone. On a track with open road, the Vette or the Viper would wax an unmodified Miata. But then, you're not the kind of guy that would try to turnfight a Zeke with a Mustang, are you? And, a forced induction Miata will whup the big guys at their own game; witness Grassroots Motorsports' Open Track Challenge.
Each has it's own arena, but a Miata is a real sports car, I guarantee it.
And I'm surprised it took so long for someone to rise to the bait.
Mosca
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Well if we're talking ownership of the company making said car, isn't it German now? ;)
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So a heavilly moded Miata beat an 01 coupe whos driver had ahd a few drinks. woopdy doo. Shall I go through that same kill board and find all the Miata kills? Actually, there probably wouldnt be that many cause its nothing to brag about. On the right track anything can beat anything, thanks for pointing out the obvious. I've seen a tricked out MGB beat a well modded C4 vette with an awesome driver on the right slalom track. Does that mean the MGB is a better sports car? Dont think so. This is the bottom line: A stock Z06 Corvette will blow the merde out of a stock Miata. Period. With enough money you can make anything fast, so please dont talk about injecting this and that or we'll take a trip to Lingenfelter or Calloway, ok? Thanks.
That Viper is a sweet American sports car. Though I must say, I'd go prolly go for the Z over it :D
newguy
ASSASSIN
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(http://D:\Documents and Settings\Chris Karogiannis\My Documents\cars\Mvc-758x.jpg)
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yuk.....
I preffer Porsche thank you very much :) .love Porsche ever since i got myself one.
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Porches are no slouches, but the ones that operate in the Vette Viper leauge are waaaayyy out of my price range :D I do like those really old Porches roadsters. Those had style.
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newguy,
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!
KILL!
Sucker.
You don't know nuthin'.
Mosca
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anything that is that light doesnt even qualify as a car...isnt that a suped up go cart LOL
miata....ha ha ha ha ha . . . . . . .
:p
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HA! I got another one!
Did you read? I never said that there is anything wrong with Vettes or Vipers. They are obviously great cars. But I did say that they aren't SPORTS cars, and they're not; they are more properly GT cars.
Sports cars are by definition lighter, less complicated cars that put a premium on handling rather than power, not to say that they can't have power (witness Lotus).
Anyone who says that a Miata isn't a GREAT sports car doesn't know anything about cars. That person has never driven a Miata. A STOCK Miata, not a modified Miata, is a great sports car. A modified Miata is that much better. And, it's a better car with suspension improvements than it is with power improvements; one should remember that it's better to make strengths stronger.
I know Vettes and Miatas very well. I sold Porsches for 2 years, and I have been a manager in a Chevrolet dealership since 1989. I was on the Valley Chevrolet team that won the Corvette Challenge in 1989 (unfortunately it was in an administrative way but I did get the jacket). I have driven Callaways and LT1s. I once met Reeves Callaway when he helicoptered into our dealership parking lot, in 1991. I have driven Z06s (as recently as last month). I've never driven a Lingenfelter. I've never driven a Viper, but hey, count me in with most of the rest of the world on that one; it's a lot rarer than a Vette, to be sure, especially around Chevy dealerships. I've driven race prepped Camaros on the Pocono North course. Those SOBs are impressive as h***.
All that said, I prefer my Miata. It doesn't accelerate like a Vette, but 100 mph in a Miata is the same as 100 mph in a Vette; it's all about STAYING there, not GETTING there. It handles like a half-pint C5, all the grip without any of the size. IT'S ALL ABOUT NOT HAVING TO HIT THE BRAKES. I spent all day Sunday running full tilt through the Poconos, through descending hairpins and reverse camber humpbacks in a perfectly balanced lightweight convertible. Under those conditions, the Miata has it all over the Vette and the Viper; there's no room to use the power of the larger cars. All that you have time to do is shift and turn, and modulate the go pedal.
So; I'm not attacking the Vette/Viper/big powerful cars, get it? Those cars are awesome; they are some of the finest machines in the world, for what they do.
And I'm not defending the Miata, because it doesn't care, it's just a car, get it? But, as a machine BUILT TO IT'S PURPOSE, it is ALSO one of the finest cars in the world (and you obviously have never driven one).
I'm attacking YOUR IGNORANCE at saying that a Miata's just a chick car. YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHIN'.
I once spent some time talking to a couple of Air Force pilots about their plane, a T-37B "Tweetybird". (link to a great story about Tweets, http://members.aol.com/aeronuta2afoto/tweety.html ). At one point I asked the pilot how he compared his ride to the F15s and F16s that got all the glory. He proceeded to tell me that in his opinion, he had the best ride in the entire Air Force, that there wasn't a plane in the sky that was more responsive, or more fun to fly. Then he stopped and thought for a second, and said, "it's like having the Miata of the Air Force."
Well, then, the Miata is like the T-37B of the road.
Mosca
And you're a sucker if you keep answering this.
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Originally posted by mosca
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Well, then, the Miata is like the T-37B of the road.
Mosca
~imagines Mosca's big old bellybutton in shorts and a coat/tie, chanting "ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM"~
~begins uncontrollable rib-breaking laff jag~
~runs like hell, maniacally waving arms in air~
culero
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You go girl!
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Horsepower: 500 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 525 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
What I find astounding is that foreign engine manufacturers can get the same HP and torque with 6 or 8 cylinders. :eek:
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You hit it right on the head Mosca... and I hate Miatas. People have lost touch with what makes a sports car a sports car. America went the HP route and opinions have been skewed ever since.
That Lotus that weighs about 40 lbs and has an "optional" passenger seat is a real sports car. The miatas are real sports cars (though totally ugly ;) ). Minis are sports cars (extreme bias here ;) ). The corvettes are close... but still weigh a ton. The Vipers are close, but will still swap ends in a heartbeat (or feather's touch of the throttle).
Turning makes the car a sports car. Everything else is NASCAR or drag racing.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Turning makes the car a sports car. Everything else is NASCAR or drag racing.
AKDejaVu
Bingo.
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BTW... I love to watch NASCAR racing... nothing against them.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
What I find astounding is that foreign engine manufacturers can get the same HP and torque with 6 or 8 cylinders. :eek:
;) ......yes sir