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Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 02, 2002, 08:04:40 PM
Not a troll, not trying to kick up any dust.  Just letting any interested parties know that our during our convention we will be going to the Pensacola US Naval Air Museum on the 10th about 8:00 a.m.  Should be a great trip and if any of you  Aces High guys wanted to go, thats when a huge group of Warbirds guys will be going.  

Also, I guess the Rogue Gryphons will have a hospitality suite going in one of our rooms at the Clarion.

This is not a conversion attempt, or to fuel a "who's better" fight, but just to let anyone interested in having some fun with a bunch of like minded prop-heads.  I will hope that this post is treated with the same spirit that it was made.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Löwe on October 02, 2002, 08:12:51 PM
Hiya Hedu.
Havent seen you since I left WB's and JG51 last year.
Thanks for the info, too bad I'm no where near Fla. I'd like to see some of you guys. Enjoy yourselves!
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: worr on October 02, 2002, 08:56:19 PM
Hehe hedu....enough caveats in all that. :)

Where are all the egg shells at?

Worr, out
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 02, 2002, 09:01:26 PM
Hehe worr, you could tell?

Honestly guys, worr does a heck of a convention!

Where's funked?
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Dago on October 02, 2002, 09:13:38 PM
Warning: This supposed convention is really Worrs excuse to get you in a position to sell you a time share condo in New Jersey!  :)

dago
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Grendel on October 03, 2002, 02:13:15 AM
You really should have cross-sim meetings over there :)

The Finnish virtual pilots' meetings are all cross sim wide, everyone is welcome and everyone participates. We got under same roof WW2OL, WarBirds, Aces High, IL-2 and even CFS2 online pilots. And that's how it should be everywhere :) The sim doesn't matter, the people do.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Revvin on October 03, 2002, 04:52:34 AM
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I will be attacked by all the AH knuckleheads out there


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Those of you who fly AH, get hit by a bus


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any site that lets Mike "Jordi" Bowman post Aces High "scenario" lessons should be suspect


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It is arcadish, and it is exactly what I would expect in Aces High


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Stay in your own frigging board


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What's Aces High doing this weekend, a big k3wl doodz late war gang bang with rail guns?


:rolleyes:
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Löwe on October 03, 2002, 07:37:27 AM
Okay Good Will just went down the toejamter!:D
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: lazs2 on October 03, 2002, 08:03:02 AM
I believe he is posting here because there are 4 times as many FORMER WBers here as there are current WBers  in WB itself.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Skuzzy on October 03, 2002, 08:59:01 AM
Normally, I would have moved this to the O'Club, but I would like to take this oppertunity to express my thoughts.

First, Hedu, I see from your many disclaimers you must have felt some concern about posting this here.  For that I apologize.  While it would have been more appropriate to post this information in our O'Club forum, you should not feel so many disclaimers were required.

I have only been a member of the flight sim community for a short time, compared to the many that participate in this genre, at large.  But I have come to witness the passion many people have about this hobby.

In that passion I see and hear from many people from all over the world how they feel about one thing or another.  I have witnessed everything from complete discourse to utter joy as people express themselves, either in the cockpit or on a bulletin board.

I revel in this passion myself and have respect for those who participate in this sometimes passionate, always competitive hobby.  However, with this passion comes responsibility, and some people do forget that, myself included.

No one, in any community, should be made to feel concerned about announcing information that could be beneficial to others.  I would like to think the Aces High community would be tolerant and respectful of anyone who had information to share about events concerning the genre.

Hedu  and thank you for letting our community know about this.  Many former Warbirds players are here and I am sure they appreciate it as well.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: hblair on October 03, 2002, 09:24:28 AM
Lancs fueled up and OTR for mission to Pensacola. ;)
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Greese on October 03, 2002, 11:08:26 AM
Skuzzy-

     *sniff*  

     That was beautiful.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Dago on October 03, 2002, 11:25:40 AM
True Skuzzy, but just jump on AGW and mention anything about AH, typically you will attacked more violently than a fox stealing the prize egg laying chicken.

dago
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Skuzzy on October 03, 2002, 11:54:57 AM
A bit irrelavant Dago.  What happens at another bulletin board is really none of our business, regardless of who posts what or how.

Someone comes here to post, and they have helpful information, or just wants to talk a bit.  They should not be sitting there worried or concerned how they are going to be treated.

It is a simple matter of respect.  I would like to think our community would be up to the task.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: bikekil on October 03, 2002, 11:55:06 AM
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Originally posted by Dago
True Skuzzy, but just jump on AGW and mention anything about AH, typically you will attacked more violently than a fox stealing the prize egg laying chicken.

dago


So let's try to be *better* then them :D

308 (AH) Sqn RAF belongs to the Northolt WIng along with the 303 (WB) Sqn RAF. We are living together from the begining of the AH... and i must tell ya'll that i can't imagine living without the WB guys! Sometimes they are trying AH.. sometimes "we" are trying WB just to have fun with flying together. We also have few pilots flying actively in both sims.
It's almost 3 years now and i NEVER seen ANY quarrel about *this*. Why? i think we have a lot of respect any sympathy for each other... and we simply want to live in peace :-)

I'm sure that it's gonna be hell of a fun at the CON!
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: jordi on October 03, 2002, 12:02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Revvin


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any site that lets Mike "Jordi" Bowman post Aces High "scenario" lessons should be suspect
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HEY ! I resemble that remark !
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: oboe on October 03, 2002, 01:31:15 PM
WTG and well-said, Mr. Skuzzy!
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 03, 2002, 01:33:48 PM
Thanks skuzzy, I was worried that a post here would start something that wasn't intended.  Of course, Revvin takes a few quotes out of context.  Such as:

"I will be attacked by all the AH knuckleheads out there."  This was me talking about the TV commercial, which i said I didn't like, but WBs doesn't even have one.  If you are insulted by "knucklehead", I don't know what to say.


"Those of you who fly AH, get hit by a bus."  Sentance after that>>>"Except for funked.  He's funkadelic.   Revvin, it's called tongue in cheek humor.  I thought it worked.

"It is arcadish, and it is exactly what I would expect in Aces High".  This was a heated arguement with AH guys about AI bombers.  I don't like it, not even in WBs, which I have been vocal about.


"Stay in your own frigging board"  Um, I believe this was typed to Goober after he called me a loser and a few other things.

"What's Aces High doing this weekend, a big k3wl doodz late war gang bang with rail guns?"  Another arguement on our board with AH posting there.

As for the Jordi thing, I am sure he has done great things for AH scenarios, , good for you guys.  My feelings are mine, and have nothing to do with AH, but date back to B-17II.


In summation, the reason things are so difficult to cross post is that it seems like a pissing match 99% of the time.  I am sure there are WB guys that come here and post caustic remarks, which I don't support.  You don't go to another yard and dump garbage.  I have to believe that almost all the time that anyone talks bad about the other sim is when they get provoked so far that it is hard to just remember it's a sim, and that is true on both sides, I am sure.

Anyhoo, I hope to see some of you guys there.  It should be a blast.  Maybe I can make a PNW AH con, if Ripsnort ever gets one going.  That would nice to put faces to callsigns, and ya know, thats pretty much what it is all about.

Horrido!
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 03, 2002, 01:36:42 PM
Skuzzy, also, sorry, didn't know what the O'club was for, should have taken a better look.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Revvin on October 03, 2002, 02:01:27 PM
Out of context? you're quick enough to make AH players feel unwelcome at AGW, to tell them what you think of AH in the brashest way you can. If anyone dares mention AH on AGW you jump on them so don't play the injured party here.

You have'nt even got the courage of your convictions and stand by what you said about Jordi on AGW.

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Skuzzy, also, sorry, didn't know what the O'club was for, should have taken a better look


You're full of it! you're quick enough to moan about posts belonging in off topic at AGW what part of the description of the O'club do you not understand? "Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions" You're a hypocrite! You're quick to jump on the AH guys posting on AGW's main forum but not so when it's buddies posting about IL-2 or WW2OL where you happily took part in discussions.

So quit playing the poor hard done by Hedu who only wants to be friends and take a dose of your own medicine..not very nice is it?
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 03, 2002, 02:28:56 PM
Revvin, I am not gonna bite on your remarks.  You can write what ever you want into it, I merely posted so that any current AH guys who wanted to go to the museum with us were welcome.  I thought it would be alot of fun.

As for the Jordi thing, my feelings are just that, mine.  I am sure Jordi does great things for your scenarios and all, and for that.  But I don't go to another mans house and and bad mouth him.  And that is where i leave it, and maybe you could learn to leave it at that too.

Hblair, you better be going!

Revvin, that phrase "so hard done by".  Is that a british phrase?  I have only heard that phrase one place before, and that was a Tragically Hip song, and their Canadian.  I have never heard that used here in the States.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Revvin on October 03, 2002, 02:41:28 PM
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But I don't go to another mans house and and bad mouth him


Lacking the courage of your convictions, you were keen enough to pass the comments even in a thread that had nothing to do with Aces High on AGW.

Perhaps you should also practice what you preach the next time an AH player posts on AGW.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 03, 2002, 02:49:15 PM
Revvin, AGW is MY HOUSE.  And your right, it wasn't about AH.  It was B-17II.  

Please remember that.  Can we drop it now and see if people can get together and have some fun?
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Flossy on October 03, 2002, 02:51:35 PM
Hmmm.... maybe I should advertise the UK Aces High Convention (25-27 October - http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65972 ) on the Warbirds Forums? After all:

"All current and ex-players of massively multiplayer online flight sims are welcome to come along (and bring partners)."

:)
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 03, 2002, 03:22:36 PM
Flossy, by all means, go ahead.  I don' think it would kill anyone.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Revvin on October 03, 2002, 03:28:31 PM
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Revvin, AGW is MY HOUSE. And your right, it wasn't about AH. It was B-17II


Correction it's ARGO's house and as a Warbirds and Aces High player I'm just as welcome as you and I don't particularly take kindly to be made to feel unwelcome especially from a player I attempted to help in regards to your latest joystick purchase and your thread was about CFSII but you had to have the snide dig at Jordi but I'm sure he's a big enough boy for it not to distress him too much.

Yeah I'll drop it but perhaps you'll extend the same courtesy and extend this 'a bunch of like minded prop-heads' the next time someone mentions Aces High at AGW.
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: funkedup on October 03, 2002, 04:04:06 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I believe he is posting here because there are 4 times as many FORMER WBers here as there are current WBers  in WB itself.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's


LOL, it's funny because it's true.  :)
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Flossy on October 03, 2002, 04:05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Hedu of JG26 Warbirds
Flossy, by all means, go ahead.  I don' think it would kill anyone.
Just waiting for my account to be moderated....  :rolleyes:  :)
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: funkedup on October 03, 2002, 04:07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Hedu of JG26 Warbirds
Hehe worr, you could tell?

Honestly guys, worr does a heck of a convention!

Where's funked?


I can't go this year, bingo vacation time and $$$.
Nice to meet you last time, and have a beer or 50 for me.  :)

Anybody who can go to this Con, you should go.  Even if you don't give a hoot about the game WarBirds, the speakers are worth the price of admission at these things.  And the attendees are pretty entertaining too.  RG suite rocks.  :)
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Hedu of JG26 Warbirds on October 03, 2002, 04:24:28 PM
Revvin, we are all allowed our views.  If you didn't like what I said about Jordi, hey, fine, thats your right.  But do you think when I put it there I was thinking, "Gosh, I hope I offend Revvin"?

I saw your post in that thread and didn't understand what you were trying to say.  I saw your post about "profile" and was trying to figure out what your profile said.  It's not a case of automatically disliking soemone just because they are from AH, it is the constant bashing we get from guys who don't fly our sim.  And I know in the past you have had WBs guys do the same thing here too, and it's plain B.S.

You can see int hat same thread goober and I get into it.  Goober has also posted alot of anti-warbirds stuff, and people get tired of it, especially in their own bbs, and especially from someone who doesn't fly this sim.  I am positie it is the same way here.

Revvin, funked flies AH, and we get along great.  I have kidded with Ripsnort, my old squad X/O is over here.  I even had one of your guys make me an AH playing card with my 109 in it.  Please make the difference in reason as to why people become defensive or arguementative.

Revvin, man, the pendelum swings both ways.

Love my Cougar, gonna take a while to figure out, tho.  Can you get trim adjusted to a wheel?
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Dago on October 03, 2002, 04:26:48 PM
Skuzzy, I agree, and I think if you would look at my post, I think you will find I didnt attack Hedu.  I dont care personally about him advertising a get together.   I have never found it in good taste to come try and sell another online sim on AHs board, but he isnt doing that.

I simply commented on the fact that normally if anyone posted anything on AGW positive about AH, he could expect to be beaten to a pulp with the negative and nasty responces he would get.

Interesting to me was how many were determined to protect AGW as a sort of official "IEN Warbird" board, when in fact it was operated strictly by Argo, with no ties at the time to IEN.  He even had on his OT Section a statement that it was for discussions of other games and sims.  Didnt matter to the board Nazis.

I am glad that the AH board is not really patrolled by insecure people afraid to allow mention of other games.  But then, why should we be, it's not AH that is suffering, that lacks updates, and hasn't seen a financial statement printed in black ink in anyones recent memory.

dago
Title: Warbirds convention 2002, Oct 10-13th.
Post by: Revvin on October 03, 2002, 05:17:05 PM
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If you didn't like what I said about Jordi, hey, fine, thats your right. But do you think when I put it there I was thinking, "Gosh, I hope I offend Revvin"?


I did'nt say you did but you went out of your way to have a pop at Jordi and indirectly at AH...again.

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I saw your post in that thread and didn't understand what you were trying to say


I posted a link, I'm quite enthusiastic when it comes to tinkering with the Cougar programming, take a look in the AH forum here I have fun doing it so posted my WBIII profile link to get you started, although the software coems with a WBIII profile I figure you can never have too many profiles to pick the best bit's out of. I posted that and then saw you post half a dozen sweeping comments about AH players in general, hit by a bus, made to feel most unwelcome etc so removed it, why should I bother when someone who has accussed me in the past of being an AH fan boy (even though I play both AH and WB and WW2OL) posts stuff like that.

Yes Goober does wind people up but he replies to the very same group of players who constantly trash AH at any oppurtunity at AGW or anywhere else the same way MG and cabby used to post here constantly you can't have it both ways.

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Revvin, funked flies AH, and we get along great. I have kidded with Ripsnort, my old squad X/O is over here. I even had one of your guys make me an AH playing card with my 109 in it. Please make the difference in reason as to why people become defensive or arguementative


Read your post back to yourself..take a minute and just read where you've posted 'your guys' 'our sim' it's all a kind of 'them and us' mentality, are we not all "like minded prop-heads" after all?

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Revvin, man, the pendelum swings both ways


Hedu, man, yes it is swinging so why do you feel the need to bat it back everytime it swings towards AGW?

Yes I have mapped trim to rotaries but not as analogue but as digital statements, crude but it works you can also map WEP to the end of the throttle travel. Mixing analogue and digital outputs to an axis at the same time is one of the great things about the Cougar that no other stick can do, not to mention the logical programming.