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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Udie on September 06, 2000, 04:10:00 PM
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Welp it looks like im effectively grounded. I reinstalled win98 yesterday and now my joystick, pedals and throttle have changed their names to SPIKE lee. I just put in my other sound card to see if it was the port, but they are still spiking.
SO, it looks like I won't be flying for a while until I can afford a new set up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) My online activities will be limited to CM duty. Hopefuly I'll get this fixed in a couple of weeks....
Udie
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Udie, what's your setup?
I may just have the cure for ya (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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-Rebel
JG2 "Richtofen"
"You Rebel Scum"
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4 year old Chpedals
3 year old Chthrottle
2 month old TM top gun platinum
I think the problem may be the ruder pedals or the throttle. All axis spike at the same time. The stick plugs into the throttle which plugs into the pedals which plug into the gameport on my SB live value. I'm thinking that either the rudders or throttle is causing the whole set up to spike. My keyboard also plugs into the throttle which plugs into the keyboard input, when I type while flying I almost go into a spin it spikes so bad.
I have no clue what kind of gear to get now. I'm thinking Saitek or CH, but I need a full HOTAS pedals and all. Do they make all that stuff for USB yet?
Udie
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Saitek makes a decent USB thing, but let's try and save what ya got.
Have ya tried changing pots yet? If not, give that a shot.
If ya have, email me your address. I got a present for ya (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
*edit* schitzo_duck@yahoo.com *edit*
*edit* It's your new game port that's causing the problem, methinks.*edit*
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-Rebel
JG2 "Richtofen"
"You Rebel Scum"
[This message has been edited by Rebel (edited 09-06-2000).]
[This message has been edited by Rebel (edited 09-06-2000).]
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I had to reformat, the whole bit, a few days ago. My MS stick was lagging on views, WEP wouldn't stay on, auto angle would would turn off after a few seconds, etc. After a couple days of flying, the problem apparently cured itself. No more probs.
You might try flying for a day or two. I've heard other people have the same prob after a reload, and the same cure (fixing itself) Sounds crazy, I know, but I didn't do anything else to it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Whew that's going to be a tough one. I'm so pissed at this new system. I went through 2 weeks of lock ups. Didn't know what the problem was, did 2 weeks of troubleshooting. Finaly I called the shop and said I was bringing it back in for them to check it out. Before I did I updated Virus sheild. BAM it found a virus, 1st one in 5 yrs online. That's why I reinstalled. Now this!!! I swear I got chest pains last night in AH when I couldn't fly. I'll try it for a couple of nights to see what happens.
U
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after reading your last reply, youre right it may be your hardware. Buy you some hoffman pedals. They're digital, no spikes. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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he forgets he has a tech that lives about 45 minutes away that he NEVER asks for help. Oh well.
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Dnil---Skyhawk until I get Dnil back :)
Maj. 900th Bloody Jaguars
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer (http://www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer)
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UDIE i cancelled my account over this, and now i am back. I have Ch peddals,CHpro throttle and CHpro joy. I FINALLY got them to work. First i used some air spray to clean the pods. I'm running the setup threw a standard gameport on the soundblaster 32 ( cheapo) Second the Spiking was in Win98, accually i could only squeeze half a throw from the joystick in windows. Trust me on this: you have to keep calibrating, and deleting the setup UNTIL it calibrates right in windows ( think it took me well over 20 tries) BUT it WILL finally calibrate! Scrap the dos utilies! they never worked for me. Just be persistant and you will get a calibration thats acceptable. Then of course recalibrate it in AH. I know the frustration i cancelled my account for 3 months over this. All my Ch stuff is brand spanking new and i still couldn't get it to work. I tried siatek ( crap) i tried Wingman digitals ( CRAP) USB.
NUTTZ hang in there... Originally posted by Udie:
Welp it looks like im effectively grounded. I reinstalled win98 yesterday and now my joystick, pedals and throttle have changed their names to SPIKE lee. I just put in my other sound card to see if it was the port, but they are still spiking.
SO, it looks like I won't be flying for a while until I can afford a new set up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) My online activities will be limited to CM duty. Hopefuly I'll get this fixed in a couple of weeks....
Udie
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Actually, if all of your controls are doing a spike at regular intrevals, then I doubt it's actually their pots...especially if they're spiking without you moving them. Try and isolate the problem. First, plug in just the Top Gun Platinum. If that works, then add the rudders. If that works, then add the throttle, and see if the problem comes back.
SOB
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ppppppppssssssttttttt Udie scan those mpegs u get from Moviemart.com (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Have you tried this:
ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/BetaSoftware/CHJoy98.exe
or the stick works program:
http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ctfjv320.zip (http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ctfjv320.zip)
These work very well for folks who had problems after upgrading. Make sure you're using DX7A too btw!
I had a PC crash last weekend and in the subsequent process of scrubbing the HDD clean and then reformating for a fresh WIN98 install (had Win95B prior) I have yet to check and do my gamecontroller yet. That's for tonight. All CH gear too. Wish me luck!
-Westy
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Sounds like gremlins again (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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ezdoc
48th Fighter Group "Checkertails"
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Udie....
This is what made my world a better place to live in (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
http://gamesdomain.hol.gr/gdreview/zones/reviews/hardware/jun98/l4final.html (http://gamesdomain.hol.gr/gdreview/zones/reviews/hardware/jun98/l4final.html)
Good Luck!
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Originally posted by Udie:
I have no clue what kind of gear to get now. I'm thinking Saitek or CH, but I need a full HOTAS pedals and all. Do they make all that stuff for USB yet?
The only full USB HOTAS right now is the Saitek X36 Flight Control System (throttle + stick combo) plus the CH Pro Pedals USB. Both items are selling at US$100 each.
CH doesn't say when they will release the Pro Throttle USB; they will have it in a UK show this month though. The F16 Fighterstick USB and the CH (regular) Pedals USB are probably farther off. (Right now there's only the F16 Combatstick with its 4-way hatswitch and the CH Pro Pedals USB.)
With 3 CH USB products you will need a USB port for each controller, so that means you wil need a USB hub. The Saitek X36 combo only needs 1 USB port (the throttle plugs into the stick).
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DrSoya
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
Part of the Northolt Wing (http://www.raf303.org/northolt) (First Polish Fighter Wing)
[This message has been edited by DrSoya (edited 09-06-2000).]
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Udie;
Sadly, I had much the problem you describe. I could never find any fault with any of my components, changed pots nada yada. I swapped sound cards, game ports and game cards. NO LUCK!
For my system the problem would occur after a short period of use. I suspected component heating, but nothing really got hot. I finally settled upon the solution that my system / Win98 could not handle all the analog components at once. (Joystick - Throttle - Rudder) Sooner or later spiking made the game unplayable.
I never solved the problem....
I adapted! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ---> USB components work flawlessly and with AH you can mix and match USB and analog.
Basically do this. Find a good USB joystick that you like (Logitech Wingman Extreme is cheap to test). You will use that joystick hooked into your USB port. Also hook up your old analog joystick in combo with your analog throttle and rudder, same as before into your game / sound card. So you now have 2 joysticks connected, along with throttle and rudder. One joystick is USB and one is analog, with throttle and rudder connect into the analog joystick.
Now go into the AH joystick set-up. Configure AH to use your USB joystick, your analog throttle and rudder. Your analog joystick gets ignored by AH. The only reason it is connected is because your computor system needs it connected to use the throttle and the rudder.
Re-joice! Send me some E-mail I'll give you my telephone number if you still need help.
Good Luck! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"hehehe...I like this thread squealing Bastids!"
SOB
[This message has been edited by Minotaur (edited 09-06-2000).]
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Udie look at Best Buy Siatek X36 combo was 79 dollars. The PDPI card did not help as much as the usb does, not to mention they kind of sold out, not sure if you can buy one now or not. They do have a phone number but noone there seems to care to much. Cant remember the name of the compnay right now. but if you can buy the X36 combo you wont regret it.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
Indians Home page were links to help pages can be found.
Indian's Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
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If you want a PDPI card, I have one new, in box, only used once. It worked fine, but conflicted with my on-board sound card. So I had to choose between having sound and having the PDPI. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Send me an email if you are interested. funkedup@raf303.org
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Udie..
Make sure you go to CH web site for the Win98 drivers. My CH stick stop workin in Win98. These drivers are a must.
Dog out..
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Hey, Udie....
Guess what......get the newest drivers for your graphic card.
My stick did the same and I was nearly throwing the whole puter out the window....
But this solved it for me.
Crabofix
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Udie,
Go into your gameport setup and see if you have "poll with interupts" enabled. When I reinstalled Win98 I forgot to uncheck it and had the same problems.
shdo
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Get that damn thing fixed, Dude! Hang in there buddy!Never say die! I think it might be your TNT2 video card? You should pull that thing out immediately and sell it cheap to a guy in central California (upon receipt of your new card, of course) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I hope this Joy problem goes away soon. I spend lots of time helping friends out of these spots, and I'm thankful its not my system!It sucks when the friend lives far away and I can't stress over the problem in person. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) These guys are sharp! One of those solutions should work? (Fingers crossed)CYA soon buddy! Sorry, I didn't realize you were approaching the end of your patience on this problem! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) Thanx guys! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I need to see cons on your six so I can practice my "High Deflection, Lead Injection"! BERSERKR