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Title: new planes please
Post by: Crazyflier15 on October 06, 2002, 10:03:52 PM
I am used to play aces high a lot and then well flying the spits are fun and all the other planes some i am new to but now are very familiar to.  I was wondering if you ever heard of the sea fury or "the duck" or something of the sort (i forgot its formal name) which was a vehicle used largely in the invasion of Normandy which had the ability to go on and off land.
The Sea fury was the fastest prop plane in the war.  Plus there are a wide range of planes i am familiar with and would love to fly.  There is the Firefly which was a british plane used as a fighter/dive bomber on the land and sea.
American plane i have yet to see is the p-36/hawk 75.
German  Me 210/410 Hprnisse, Fw 200 condor.
Jap Plane Ki-45 Toryu"Nick", B5n"kate"

If you want info on these planes e-mail me at knight19@midsouth.rr.com

I hope i am not the only one who might be tiring of the same planes but if i am so be it but i still think that these planes would be a group of aricraft thatwould make their mark. I even have histories on them if anyone is interested.
Title: new planes please
Post by: Viper17 on October 06, 2002, 10:56:25 PM
Well get out of those god forsaken spits and into a 110.;)
Title: new planes please
Post by: Dowding (Work) on October 07, 2002, 03:42:38 AM
The Sea Fury saw no combat in WW2 (I'm not even sure it had even entered service). I'm pretty sure it saw its first combat in the Korean conflict.

We already have amphibious tanks and landing craft.
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 07, 2002, 04:49:35 AM
First conflict it was in action in was Korea I believe. Nor was it the fastest prop plane of the war. Had about the same speed as a Tempest I believe. Quite a few were faster then that. It's a cool plane though :)
Title: new planes please
Post by: Mitsu on October 07, 2002, 09:07:42 AM
ki43...ki44...ki45...ki61-1ko/otsu/hei...ki61-2...ki84...ki100...ki102...ki109...zeke 32(hamp)...a6m2n...n1k1...n1k1j...j2m 3...b6n2...d4y2...b7a2...g4m. ..h8k2...ki46-3otsu/hei...

:p
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 07, 2002, 09:43:28 AM
190 A9!!! 190 F9!!!  ,Ta152 C, Do335, He162, Ju188!!, Ju88S, Ju88G!!, He219!!!, Me410!!!, Ta154!! Hs129. etc  etc.
Title: new planes please
Post by: bozon on October 07, 2002, 10:00:33 AM
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The Sea Fury saw no combat in WW2 (I'm not even sure it had even entered service). I'm pretty sure it saw its first combat in the Korean conflict.

in 1948 an Iraqie Fury attacked an Israely beufighter flow by ex-RAF voluntiers. The Beufighter dived vertically to the ground, pulling out at tree-tops - the dweebish fury augered...

Bozon
Title: new planes please
Post by: Dowding (Work) on October 07, 2002, 10:07:53 AM
I hope they got a manoever kill for that stunt.

I love the Sea Fury, it just has no place in AH unfortunately.

BTW, I think it was faster than Tempest. It shared some design features (it was made by Hawker afterall), but I'm sure it was faster.
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 07, 2002, 10:14:34 AM
Pretty sure its top speed was around 460, atleast that's what my books say. Don't have a specialized Tempest/sea Fury book though so could be wrong.

Thanks bozon :)
Title: new planes please
Post by: DblTrubl on October 07, 2002, 10:24:10 AM
P-38G-10, A-26, B-25, P-47M/N(just to save the 56th guys a post ;) ), P-39D, P-39Q(VVS), P-63(VVS), Yak-3, Mig-3,Pe-8, Pe-2, Tu-2, Il10, I-16, M.C. 200, Re 2005, S.M.79, P.108, and everything on Mitsu's list. :D  Oh ok, and Wilbus' too...cept the Ta-154. That one should come only if the glue is modeled too. :p
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 07, 2002, 11:49:36 AM
*SLAP* :D
Title: new planes please
Post by: cajun on October 07, 2002, 06:36:12 PM
Gloster Gladiator, Sea Gladiator, Cr.42, Cr.32, I-153, Fairey Swordfish, Hs-123, "Bulldog", ju87stuka, And *Most* of the planes on mitsu's list would be nice :)

As for the Fury... Well, if it didnt see action during WW2 I don't think it should be added, and I doubt htc will add something that didn't see service in ww2...
Title: new planes please
Post by: ra on October 07, 2002, 08:47:21 PM
Brewster Buffalo (before the Finns riot).
Title: new planes please
Post by: Kweassa on October 07, 2002, 09:02:55 PM
I-16, LaGG-3, Yak-1B, Mig-3, P-39N, P-39Q, Yak-3
 Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-84, G4M
 Ju-87B, Ju-87G, Fw190A-1, Bf109G-14, He-111
 P-38H
 C.200

*Edit*

 Forgot about the Spitfire lfMkIX ! :) Sorry RAF fans!

Title: new planes please
Post by: Wotan on October 07, 2002, 09:58:21 PM
kweassa has read my mind. except yak 7b as well :)
Title: new planes please
Post by: palef on October 07, 2002, 10:00:42 PM
Cajun - Bristol Bulldog??? Are you nuts??? (I mean this in a friendly, pleasant fashion. Please do not be offended :D)

The only folk mental enough to fly these operationally during the WWII era were the Finns! (Again, mental is a semi-affectionate description - I hope Finland doesn't come looking for me!:eek: )

The RAF retired the last one in 1937, and I really think that they would be simply cannon fodder in the MA. Unless some Finns fly them. And then you could just BnZ them until they run out of gas. A single 37mm or 88mm would turn them into a flaming, fluttering collection of wire, metal fragments, and smoking fabric.

Bristol Bulldog Specs
TECHNICAL DATA
(Bristol Bulldog)

DESCRIPTION: Single-seat day and night fighter. All metal with fabric covering.

POWER PLANT: One 450 hp Bristol Jupiter VIF.

DIMENSIONS: Span 33ft 11ins; Length 25ft; Height 9ft 10ins.

WEIGHTS: Empty, 2,412lbs. Loaded, 3,503lbs.

ARMAMENT: Twin synchronized Vickers machine-guns. Four 20lb bombs.

PERFORMANCE: Speed 174mph at 10,000ft. Service ceiling 27,000ft. Climb, 14 1/2 mins to 20,000ft.

Check this link out for info about Finnish Bulldog operations.
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/bulldog_finland.htm

palef
Title: new planes please
Post by: -tronski- on October 08, 2002, 01:17:46 AM
Beaufighter..... x 100
Title: new planes please
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on October 08, 2002, 02:05:59 AM
Aber nein wir wollen auch mal in dem Fokker G1 fliegen.

Sheisse es ist keine Kurt Tank kreation.

Schade schade


:mad: :mad:
Title: new planes please
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on October 08, 2002, 02:08:34 AM
Vroooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaa aahhhhhhh !!!!!
Title: new planes please
Post by: Furball on October 08, 2002, 02:58:13 PM
i read somewhere the Hawker Tempest was the fastest allied aircraft at sea level that saw combat in wwii, and thats including meteor

http://user.tninet.se/~ytm843e/tempest.htm (http://user.tninet.se/~ytm843e/tempest.htm)
Title: new planes please
Post by: bigUC on October 08, 2002, 03:37:02 PM
Ju 87 B, D and G.  Pe-2, Il-4, Beaufighter.  More luftwaffe ordnance options.  [edit] almost forgot Ju-52.  Seems like HT has forgotten too... [/edit]
Title: new planes please
Post by: palef on October 08, 2002, 03:50:32 PM
Furball - very nice Tempest site - thanks for sharing.

palef
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wmaker on October 08, 2002, 05:06:32 PM
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Originally posted by palef
The only folk mental enough to fly these operationally during the WWII era were the Finns! (Again, mental is a semi-affectionate description - I hope Finland doesn't come looking for me!:eek: )


No worries palef I take it as a complement. :D

In the first combat in history of The Finnish Air Force Mr. Toivo Uuttu had to fight alone in a Bulldog against 3 soviet I-16s. He had to ditch under enemy fire but managed to down one of the I-16s in the process. :D
Title: new planes please
Post by: vorticon on October 08, 2002, 07:10:39 PM
soptwith camel
hurricane mk2b
stuka
and of course for the japadweeb flyers (no offense intended)
ki-45
Title: new planes please
Post by: -ammo- on October 08, 2002, 07:28:25 PM
thx dbltrbl:)
Title: new planes please
Post by: Monk on October 09, 2002, 01:51:58 AM
:)
Title: new planes please
Post by: CapsAW on October 10, 2002, 12:34:53 PM
What about adding an Me163 Komet?  I think it would be a fun counter to super hi buffs.  But in order for them to not dominate the arena, they need to make the fuel very short, make sure they don't make it up every time (Historically I think it was 35% of them blew up on takeoff due to the highly volitile rocket fuel) and they should be difficult to land (on a ski)..

Also, what about the Ki-84...I do not understand how you can over look them??  Historically they were one of the best radial engined aircraft...After the war we did tests on them, they out performed the P-51D, P-47D, F4U, P-38, the list goes on...It just kind of weird that we don't have them inb the game...

I do think having a Sea Fury in the game would be a stretch as they weren't active in WW2, kind of like putting an F-16 in a Vietnam Sim lol....
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 10, 2002, 01:53:27 PM
:D
Title: new planes please
Post by: Dowding on October 10, 2002, 04:09:01 PM
Meteor III would be a nice foil to the Me.262.

But I'd like to BigUCs list done first. :)
Title: new planes please
Post by: cajun on October 11, 2002, 12:48:58 AM
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Originally posted by palef
Cajun - Bristol Bulldog??? Are you nuts??? (I mean this in a friendly, pleasant fashion. Please do not be offended :D)

The only folk mental enough to fly these operationally during the WWII era were the Finns! (Again, mental is a semi-affectionate description - I hope Finland doesn't come looking for me!:eek: )

The RAF retired the last one in 1937, and I really think that they would be simply cannon fodder in the MA. Unless some Finns fly them. And then you could just BnZ them until they run out of gas. A single 37mm or 88mm would turn them into a flaming, fluttering collection of wire, metal fragments, and smoking fabric.

Bristol Bulldog Specs
TECHNICAL DATA
(Bristol Bulldog)

DESCRIPTION: Single-seat day and night fighter. All metal with fabric covering.

POWER PLANT: One 450 hp Bristol Jupiter VIF.

DIMENSIONS: Span 33ft 11ins; Length 25ft; Height 9ft 10ins.

WEIGHTS: Empty, 2,412lbs. Loaded, 3,503lbs.

ARMAMENT: Twin synchronized Vickers machine-guns. Four 20lb bombs.

PERFORMANCE: Speed 174mph at 10,000ft. Service ceiling 27,000ft. Climb, 14 1/2 mins to 20,000ft.

Check this link out for info about Finnish Bulldog operations.
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/bulldog_finland.htm

palef



Oops, sorry I was thinking of another plane... cant remember its name!
Btw one or 2two 37mm's or 88mms will turn practically anything into a flaming fluttering collection of wire,metal fragments & smoking faprics :D:eek:
Title: new planes please
Post by: whgates3 on October 11, 2002, 01:34:08 AM
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Originally posted by cajun

Oops, sorry I was thinking of another plane... cant remember its name!
Btw one or 2two 37mm's or 88mms will turn practically anything into a flaming fluttering collection of wire,metal fragments & smoking faprics


unless the fabric isnt stiff enough to explode the shell, an instead the shell just passes through leaving holes a few inches wide
Title: new planes please
Post by: bioconscripter on October 11, 2002, 07:19:48 PM
Was PZL-11 a crappy plane or good?
Title: new planes please
Post by: whgates3 on October 11, 2002, 07:31:48 PM
when it 1st came out in 1934 it was probably one of the better fighters (better than the P-26, the USAAC's best fighter at the time), certainly it was no match for the I16, which was contemporary and was ~100 kph faster
Title: new planes please
Post by: Furball on October 12, 2002, 06:29:07 AM
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Originally posted by cajun



Oops, sorry I was thinking of another plane... cant remember its name!


Gloster Gladiator?

(http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/images/j8_4.jpg)
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 12, 2002, 06:56:21 AM
Note the national markings of that Gladiator :D
Title: new planes please
Post by: Furball on October 12, 2002, 09:46:35 AM
yes,  neutral sweden!

brought gladiators to fend off rowdy seagulls
Title: new planes please
Post by: Wilbus on October 12, 2002, 10:42:55 AM
And BOY did those seagulls get their tulips wopped or what?! :D
Title: new planes please
Post by: cajun on October 12, 2002, 11:35:12 AM
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Originally posted by whgates3


unless the fabric isnt stiff enough to explode the shell, an instead the shell just passes through leaving holes a few inches wide


Yeah that was the great thing about the fairey swordfish, and why they didnt loose a single one in attacking the bismark!
Title: new planes please
Post by: cajun on October 12, 2002, 11:37:45 AM
Oh, And no its not the Gloster Gladiator I was thinking of, I listed both Gladiator & Sea Gladiator (They are TOP on my list :D )
Title: new planes please
Post by: Arlo on October 12, 2002, 11:50:21 AM
Blimps
Title: new planes please
Post by: bioconscripter on October 12, 2002, 02:24:04 PM
Wow! That's an awesome Me-163! Looking forward to driving it.