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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on October 07, 2002, 12:21:10 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news/ap/20021007/ap-nflrdp.html
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Just Win Baby!
Week 5: Bills-Raiders Postgame Quotebook
Quarterback Rich Gannon
On the touchdown pass to Charlie Garner:
"We were getting a lot of combination coverage's. We talked about it on the sidelines. It was something we had worked on through out the course of the week. I just reminded Charlie in the huddle to be patient and not be to quick with it; make sure you sell the move. He ran a great route, made a great catch and made a great run after the catch. That was a big play in the game because the momentum was swinging back and forth. It was just unbelievable what was happening out there."
On it being difficult or fun to play in a game like this:
"Well, it is fun in a way but at the same time it is very difficult. You know that the margin of error is very small. If you make a mistake, it might be the kind to finish your day. That was the way it was. I didn't want to make any mistakes. I didn't want to turn the ball over or put our defense in a bad position. I thought the offense did a pretty good job of controlling the football and not making mistakes. That was the difference in the game today."
On the Bills defense today:
"They had a good plan. I give them a lot of credit. I think we caught them off balance a couple of times. It wasn't easy out there today. We had to work for everything we got. It was a hard fought game that came down to a couple of plays."
On expecting this kind of production out of the offense:
"We feel like each week we are making improvements. Today, we did some really good things. There was some tight coverage out there, so the completions were down a little bit. I thought we missed a couple plays where we got caught in a couple of protections we didn't want to be in."
On his age and experience playing a factor in not panicking:
"I didn't sense any panic. The thing that is interesting is that we knew coming in what kind of game it was going to be. We talked about it. We did not come in here and expect to dominate from the get-go and get a three touchdown lead. That just doesn't happen every week. We knew it was going to be a back and forth type game. Their offense is very explosive as well. You could tell from the get-go that it was going to be one of those games where you have to keep pace with them. If you can't match them, then you have to step aside. I felt like that was the way it was going to be most of the day. It was kind of a back and forth type of game. It was going to come down to a couple of plays in the fourth quarter and that's what happened."
On Langston Walkers' play:
"I thought he played great. Here is a guy who took most of the reps in practice; really didn't know and probably didn't plan on making the start. All of a sudden he has to go in and start. It reminds me a little bit of what happened to Barry Sims a couple of years ago. We came here a couple of years ago and Barry Sims had to go in and start. He played a whale of a game and didn't give up any sacks. I thought Langston played a great game. He hung in there and battled. I thought he showed a lot of poise and I was really proud of the way he played. I'm happy for him. He stepped up."
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Go Pats! ;)
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Go Steelers! uh well ummm...........please
OK OK I know they lost again but at least they got rid of Stewart so now they have a good chance of winning some games this season.
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The truly ironic thing...
Everyone said the SeaHawks were moving to a tougher division (NFC West)
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
The truly ironic thing...
Everyone said the SeaHawks were moving to a tougher division (NFC West)
AKDejaVu
Heh, yeah...I was one of those saying that prior to the season, of course that was with a winning St.Louis team...I still say the Hawks finish 4-12 even in this "panzy" division :)
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How 'bout those As?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
How 'bout those As?
-- Todd/Leviathn
Angels!? Yeah baby! All the way! ;)
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5-0
Tenn. headed this way on Sat.
GO DAWGS
SIC EM
WOOF WOOF WOOF
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Originally posted by Pfunk
5-0
Tenn. headed this way on Sat.
GO DAWGS
SIC EM
WOOF WOOF WOOF
Amateur sports... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Amateur sports... :rolleyes:
Friggin Million Dollar cry babies :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Friggin Million Dollar cry babies :rolleyes:
Yeah... but they actually play against a defense. :p
:)
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I remember 4-0.
I wouldn't get too carried away, even subtracting for Raider victories, the winning percentage of Raider opponents is a whopping .555. The Bills were close to the real thing, but next week the Raiders extended preseason continues with a game against the Rams.
Then the next week the smack really starts to fly in here :p
-Sikboy
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One other thing... does anyone else here post at http://www.thenflforum.com ?
-Sikboy
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You know what this reflects? It reflects how the NFL today lacks the real Super Hero QB's. I mean come on, Gannon is a slightly above average QB. He's no Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway....look at the talent level in the NFL...its just not what it was in the late 80's, early 90's. An "above average" team like the Chokeland Raiders can win, and win big, when your faced with teams that have no talent level at the QB position. Parity (hehe, actually IMO parody) has finally reached the NFL.
Chokeland better pray that Gannon stays healthy, you don't want Ricky in there...we (Seahawk fans) know! ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Chokeland better pray that Gannon stays healthy, you don't want Ricky in there...we (Seahawk fans) know! ;)
I'd be interested to see Tui out there though.
-Sikboy
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Tui did good for the U of Washington, but he relied on his scrambling abilities alot and had good WR to throw to. Something tells me he won't fair so well in the NFL...though I'd love to see how he does in the "Big League" ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You know what this reflects? It reflects how the NFL today lacks the real Super Hero QB's. I mean come on, Gannon is a slightly above average QB. He's no Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway....look at the talent level in the NFL...its just not what it was in the late 80's, early 90's. An "above average" team like the Chokeland Raiders can win, and win big, when your faced with teams that have no talent level at the QB position. Parity (hehe, actually IMO parody) has finally reached the NFL.
Chokeland better pray that Gannon stays healthy, you don't want Ricky in there...we (Seahawk fans) know! ;)
Well... Dilfer has a Superbowl ring... so does Mark Rypien...
Gannon is far better than either of them. Of course, he was a source of disappointment to the Vikings and the Chiefs and the...
but... remember Jim Plunkett? He wasn't all that and a bag when he was playing in boston.
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Arent the Dolphins going on strike?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I mean come on, Gannon is a slightly above average QB.
Could you be more clueless about sports?
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Surprisingly, Gannon now holds the Raider record for consecutive starts by a QB.
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Not surprising. He is a superstar. Only Warner can touch his numbers if you go back to 1999. There is no better playmaker and scrambler in the league. He almost never fumbles, and his TD/INT ratio is up there with some of the all time greats. He has defensive-back speed and is very tough and durable. His only weakness is the deep ball. He seems to throw them either too short or too long. But as the NFL has seen this year, the Raiders have no problem scoring long passing touchdowns with short throws.
He reminds me of another scrambler who got a bad rap early in his career and didn't break through until his mid-30's, but then exploded and dominated the league. Steve Young.
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No, I meant it was surprising based on the strong list of QB's in the History of the Raiders. I thought for sure Stabler or Lamonica had more longevity in the Silver and Black.
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alls I gots to say is that the Oilers are going to kick everybodies arses this year! All the way to the world series!
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Rip Im not a Raiders fan. But if you watch Gannon a couple a times a season you realize that he actually dominates the game with his level head, fast legs and long arm. I bet he would be one of the top free agent QBs if they all went on the market tommorow. Funny thing is I dont think he fits the Raiders mystique, he seems sort of out of place out there.
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Nice pic Nash.
PRIDE AND POISE!!!
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Patriots are superbowl champs right?...........Good,that's all I need to know:D
And they may not repeat,but it was fun being there:p
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Originally posted by funkedup
He is a superstar. Only Warner can touch his numbers if you go back to 1999. There is no better playmaker and scrambler in the league.
Man I wish Favre was as good as this "SuperStar".
Get a grip.
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Favre has a much better arm but he makes a lot more mistakes than Gannon. This is probably attributable to problems with the surrounding talent and offensive scheme, but the fact remains that Favre turns the ball over a lot. And he is mobile, but not the running threat Gannon is. I'd love to see him in Silver and Black though.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Rip Im not a Raiders fan. But if you watch Gannon a couple a times a season you realize that he actually dominates the game with his level head, fast legs and long arm. I bet he would be one of the top free agent QBs if they all went on the market tommorow. Funny thing is I dont think he fits the Raiders mystique, he seems sort of out of place out there.
Ah... that whole Raider mystique BS... They lost that decades ago.
Don't ge me wrong... I'm still a fan. It's just not the same as it was before when the team was made of a bunch of no-name second hand has-beens and they were winning the AFC West every year without a doubt.
Mystique... not there... there's nothing surprising about guys like Tim Brown or Jerry Rice or Rich Gannon. They had mystique back in the day when you could look at win/loss percentage and the Raiders were better in black than they were in white.
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The mystique died on a snowy night in foxboro, ma.:p
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Originally posted by Sixpence
The mystique died on a snowy night in foxboro, ma.:p
Long gone before then...
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Go San Diego!!!
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Long gone before then...
Way before then. That travesty in Foxboro was nothing. This is a franchise which has suffered things like the Immaculate Reception, 51-3, etc. That "forward pass" is not going to deter them.
IMHO the "mystique" officially left the building when Howie retired. He was the last link to the giants.
Other good answers would be "the day Art Shell was fired" or "the day the moving trucks left for LA".
After that it was all about Al. There was nobody there who could question his authority. Fortunately he seems to have figured out that this was a bad thing, and is letting the young dogs run wild.
PS: http://espn.go.com/page2/s/toomay/021007.html
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Originally posted by funkedup
IMHO the "mystique" officially left the building when Howie retired. He was the last link to the giants.
You know... before I posted about the mystique, I thought about that very same thing. Howie is the last.
oh... and THIS is priceless. :D
"F--- you, you no-legged baggy-pantsed mother------," Freddy snarled. "You told me 'Whatever it takes!' " - Biletnikoff to Al Davis
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Personally I could care less about w-l records or "big" stats in the regular season. Just win enough to get to the dance then we see who is "Great". imo, you aint got at least three rings, your a also ran, and your records are a big whoopie cushion. ;)
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What a Stupid Star!
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Huh. I took the week off football this week (eagles bye, Cdn thanksgiving) so could someone please explain to me how the raiders lost to the Rams and there 3rd string QB? I looked at the stats and it appears as though it might have been the Marshall Faulk show out there. Raiders D not clicking today? Still ya figure their O would be good for 40 points at least against the Rams. Any comments?
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The RAMS were without one star on their team, at home. I could hand off to Faulk, he was a monster against the Raiders.
Although Bruce was there to catch a sub Bugler QB's passes all day. DO you think you could be a backup in the NFL and not be competent? With that receiving crew?
Raiders looked like they will in the playoffs. Outcoached. Their Super Bowl is in Tampa Bay, with Gruden.
Too bad it's in San Diego, ain't it?
Fools!
Dance Funky!
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Creamo how sad. You have nothing better to do than make fun of other people's football teams.
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I mean I could see it if you were a Dolts or Donks or Queefs or Patsies fan. The Raiders actually have a rivalry with those teams.
What am I supposed to do, make fun of the Pack? Hell you don't even live there. You're just a desert dwelling grease monkey who saw an up an coming team and jumped on the bandwagon.
I know what I'll do, I'll make fun of UNR's team. Hahaha Hawaii kicked your ass. Hahaha. Do a hula dance Creamo.
Oh that was fun. Yay.
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And back on topic, whup dee diddlyin doo. The Raiders lost a game. Oh the agony, the Raiders have never ever lost a game before, what will I do?
If you had told me last year that the Raiders would be 4-1 after playing PIT, TEN, and STL I would have said you were crazy. I'm very pleased with their start and am looking forward to stabbing Dolts fans next Sunday at the Coliseum.
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I wasnt trying to ride the Raider's funked. Aside from the Eagles, they are my favorate team. I just checked out nfl.com and was suprised to see that they had lost to the Rams of all teams. Yea they are 4-1, but out of those teams, I would least expect them to lose to the Rams :)
Creamo- The Rams have a few other injuries too on their O line dont they? I thought they did, anyhow, yea they lost 1 star, but it was their quarterback, who uh, is generaly a fairly central figure in football. No I dont think I would have been able to win the game as the Rams QB. Yes I was suprised that they beat the unbeaten raiders. What had Faulk done up to this point, THIS season?
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Newguy, I was just responding to Creamo, don't sweat it.
Basically what happened is that the real Rams (the ones who have won the NFC 2 of the last 3 years) are back in the house. The rookie QB made some good throws when he got protection, and he didn't make any major mistakes. The Rams running game and defense were up to the standards of 1999-2001.
As far as the Raiders, they sucked in every possible aspect of the game. A ton of penalties, on offense, special teams, and defense. Gannon made 3 turnovers. Offensive line is banged up and they showed it. The pass protection fell apart at key moments. Garner had nice yards per carry but the running game failed repeatedly in short yardage. The receivers dropped several key passes, most notably an easy TD for Tim Brown and a first down for Roland Williams. The defensive backfield continued to struggle without Charles Woodson in there, getting toasted repeatedly by Holt and Bruce. And I can't remember the last time the Raiders got a sack (or even significant pressure) from one of their defensive ends. It didn't help that they were playing on the road on fake grass and that the refs called an incomplete pass to Holt a TD (he only got one foot down inbounds).
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Bingo, Funked...
The Raiders have been squeaking by. The defense really needs to step up.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Favre has a much better arm but he makes a lot more mistakes than Gannon. This is probably attributable to problems with the surrounding talent and offensive scheme, but the fact remains that Favre turns the ball over a lot. And he is mobile, but not the running threat Gannon is.
I dont know if that theory holds water this year. It looks like the numbers are pretty close up to this point in the season.
Farve (http://msn.sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=1025)
Gannon (http://msn.sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=0430)
Farve has more talent surrounding him this year than hes had since 96 or 97. If his receivers can stay healthy look for another MVP type season.
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Jeff I was comparing them over the time period 1999 to present.
I'm not any kind of Favre hater. He's as good as anybody I've seen since Young and Montana.
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I've also heard that it's possible for two great quarterbacks to coexist in the same league during the same season.
Whodathunkit?
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Originally posted by funkedup
Creamo how sad. You have nothing better to do than make fun of other people's football teams.
Im making fun of you Funky, not just your Raiders who got their tulips WHIPPED by a 0-5 team.
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"Work on it."
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Work on it? lol, now that's better.
The "Just Win Baby!" followed by a Beetle type 4 page Raider game report, followed by "Superstar" claims on that old man Gannon were hinting you had your pants down in front of a Raider team calander and it was getting a bit much.
I was just goofing about the game. I hate to see blow outs as much as the next guy, and ended up switching to the other games. It was like watching a high school scrimmage against the 49er's.
There.
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hinting you had your pants down in front of a Raider team calander and it was getting a bit much.
How did you know!!!