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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Zigrat on July 15, 2000, 04:18:00 PM
sorry edited.

anyweays we should be able to kill the commander gun easy, even with .50 cal.

someone must have typed on my computer while i was gone

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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Nash on July 15, 2000, 05:41:00 PM
hmm... interesting post Zig...
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Torque on July 15, 2000, 06:40:00 PM
CC
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: jarbo on July 15, 2000, 06:53:00 PM
Someone get hold of your Aces High BB info Zig?
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Nash on July 15, 2000, 10:44:00 PM
Yah.... I ... suppose Zig. But ah, in the greater scheme of things... has anyone actually died due to one of them guns? Not that big an issue really, is it?
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Citabria on July 15, 2000, 11:09:00 PM
that gun can be killed
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Hangtime on July 16, 2000, 12:24:00 AM
LOL.. that miserable little pop-gun on the panzer is a useless tease.. had a FW make a half dozen passes at me; I hammererd away at this guy with the pop gun and discovered three things..

1. The damn thing shoots to the left of the reticle.

2. The damn thing is utterly ineffective; the single .50 on the m3 being about 100 times more intimidating. Fighter pilots fly into the panzers popgun's pitiful tinkle with no fear of damage.

3. The Main 75 mm Gun tube on that panzer can certainly ruin any pilots day. Lends a whole new aspect to delivering a taste of 'old facefull' to a cocky FW driver  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Hang

Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: funked on July 16, 2000, 02:48:00 AM
I agree, if you get a round in the cupola it should neutralize the gun.
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Downtown on July 16, 2000, 06:58:00 AM
I have been shot down by a TC Cupola.  I don't understand how I got shot down because the couple times I have hit attacking fighters it had no effect.  Add to this the fact that it is almost impossible to swivle that gun effectifly to attack an aircraft.  Once a plane travels beyond the ark, you have to go to the main gun and find them, then switch back to the TC.

I said before.  When your a driver, stick turns the tank.  When your main gun, rudders turn the tank.  Why not when your a TC rudders turn the turret?

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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: RDRedwing on July 16, 2000, 07:46:00 AM
Well I scored quite a bunch of kills with the turret gun, my record was 8 kills in one sortie, then I was outta ammo (Ghosth witnessed that)   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Its quite easy to shoot the engine, radiator and pilot, just don't try aiming at the wings, it doesn't have any effect at all.

Being able to move the main gun with the rudders in the gunner view would indeed be great though   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Fariz on July 16, 2000, 08:27:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Nash:
Yah.... I ... suppose Zig. But ah, in the greater scheme of things... has anyone actually died due to one of them guns? Not that big an issue really, is it?

I was killed 3 times consecutive with the same tank. second 2 times he got engine and it was that bug around so I could not stop and bailed. Last time he got my wing. All 3 times it was done in first my aproach.

For all other attack against pnzrs I was only wounded once.

Fariz

Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: jihad on July 16, 2000, 11:42:00 AM
 I killed 6 in one sortie with the cupola gun.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: leonid on July 16, 2000, 11:56:00 PM
I've gotten my share of kills with that AA mount - P-47 even  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Keep it.
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: tshred on July 17, 2000, 02:50:00 AM
LOL, I regularly take wings off with the 'ol top gun on the Panzer. In fact, that's what I aim for and it works well! Just gotta remember to correct for it being off to the left.

ts
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Mighty1 on July 17, 2000, 08:08:00 AM
I use the upper gun alot and regularly kill AC with it.

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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Graywolf on July 17, 2000, 09:03:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by RDRedwing:

Being able to move the main gun with the rudders in the gunner view would indeed be great though    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Please no.

Keep it the way it is. I much prefer to be able to turn the whole tank from that position and keep that nice thick armour pointing at the biggest threat =)

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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Nash on July 17, 2000, 09:40:00 AM
Heh, well. This just goes to show how much my gunnery blows  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Baddawg on July 17, 2000, 10:25:00 AM
I cant seem to hurt any planes with the cupola  gun i see strikes after strike but  to no effect.

Im not opposed to an increase in lethality in this gun  and an increase in its arc of fire .
 However i think that it should be more vunerable when not  "Buttoned Down" i.e. even .50 cal could take it down if  shot at a good  downward angle into  the turret. There should be a reward and a risk for unbuttoning your tank.

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Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: kiljoy on July 17, 2000, 01:53:00 PM
On the other hand, I killed zig 2x with mg on top of m3.  Then hid in his hanger till he got me.  hehehe

Lots o fun zig.
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: Zigrat on July 17, 2000, 02:05:00 PM
I think some of u guys mis-understood my post  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I am not saying the gun should be removed. What i am saying is that it should be very vulnerable to fire, i mean even a 7.7mm round would kill a panzer commander pretty easy  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: kill the commander gun on the panzer
Post by: qts on July 17, 2000, 03:26:00 PM
I think the argument has subtly changed: killing the *gunner* should be different from killing the *gun*.