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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on October 09, 2002, 11:25:11 AM
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If a dissident Web site insinuated that a symbol for Homeland Security should be an eyeball floating behind a keyhole, with an upside-down american flag (sign of extreme distress or grave insult) in the background, it would be accused of fomenting panic.
(http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ahrpa/opa/pulse/epulse/images/april/homelandsecurity.gif)
Seeing this logo on a page of United States Patent and Trademark Office (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ahrpa/opa/pulse/epulse/pulse0204_home.htm) makes me think they know something we should worry about.
Speaking of paranoia-inducing logos, what could be better than a masonic Eye-in-the-Pyramid blasting a mysterious ray across the globe adorned with Scientia est Potentia ("Knowledge is Power") motto? If we are so blunt, why come up with the coy "Information Awareness Office" (http://www.darpa.mil/iao/) name for the new wing of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
(http://www.reason.com/0210/iaologo.gif)
miko
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If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. :)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. :)
Damned if that isn't straight out of the "Sayings of Tailgunner Joe"
:rolleyes:
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Ahhhh looks as if the brain numbing tablets are working well on Ripsnort. I would suggest that if you have no reasonable suspicion then you have no right to my privacy. If I remember correctly it is innocent till proven guilty, not guilty till I can prove innocence. If we become a police state where individuals rights are sacrificed under the guise of "Well if you have nothing to hide" then I say the terrorists have won.
Avid
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This makes me want to buy a shotgun, with some of that urban assault ammo from US Cavalry...
Can never be too safe....
-SW
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Hell, we wouldn't have known that woman was beating her 4 yr old child had it not been for a survelliance camera...are you guys saying you want it to go unknown that children are being beaten?
Damn, you liberals have no heart....
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Rip, if that's bait.... it's gone bad....
-SW
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No no, Rip is right. For the children, lets install surveilance cameras in all homes. I mean, if you got nothing to hide......
I volunteer to watch over the Playboy mansion.
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Everybody take cover! They have LOGOS!
-Sikboy
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Well Rip ya make a good point, as a matter of fact I am concerned about what you might be doing at this very moment. So, please hook up a webcam and give all of us the URL. After that please keep that web cam pointed at you at all times so that I can be sure you are not doing anything wrong...no go ahead....I'll wait...you have nothing to hide right???? I just love you ignorant knuckleheads that are so willing to give away your personal freedoms.
Avid
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LEGOS??? THEY HAVE LEGOS????
-SW
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Well I don't agree with everything homeland security is doing, but my life hasn't changed a bit since 9/11.
What I mean is I still travel, been on 3 vacations in the last year. My day to day life has not changed at all, I do nothing differently now that I did last year. I don't worry about being bombed, shot, nuked, poisoned, etc. I have a much greater chance on dying or getting hurt driving to work everyday than any of the items I listed.
Cameras in stores, street corners etc. I don't steal, beat children, kill anybody, build bombs, run traffic lights, speed (ok maybe speed) even with that many people in this country believe yoiur only breaking the law if you are caught. If I am arrested for such things by mistake, it happens they can search my house, talk to my friends etc. and I will be let go.
My life is an open book, and I don't mind these measures...they are not extreme in my mind.
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Bingo Narsus. Political posturing is what the anti-homeland security crowd is doing.
Incidently, I already have survelliance on my house, you come to my door, I see you before you see me ;) Don't forget I'm armed, and have a big dog too. :D
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I called the USPTO in regard to their evil clip-art, but THEY HAVE YET TO RETURN MY CALL! WHAT ARE THEY HIDING!!!! Ms. Franky Cox, what size are your Jackboots!?!?!? :mad:
-Sikboy
(No, serriously, I did call them)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. :)
Why did I get visions of an NKVD officer when I read this;)
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if we all lived accordingly, the world would be a better place
read somewhere you shouldn't do anything you wouldn't want everyone to know about - how much simplier can it get?
the security measures this admin has taken doesn't bother me in the least, just as the cameras they have downtown or at the Stadium doesn't.
those with something to hide are the first to scream about such measures
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those with something to hide are the first to scream about such measures
Err.. my life is my own, I don't feel my neighbors or the government should have their eyes peering into it.
There's something about privacy most people like...
-SW
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Can we get back to making fun of the clip art please?
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
those with something to hide are the first to scream about such measures
Err.. my life is my own, I don't feel my neighbors or the government should have their eyes peering into it.
There's something about privacy most people like...
-SW
Yea..isn't the US the land of the "free". Freedom implies that you are free to conduct your life without "big brother" having a chance to view it at will.
I can't believe that any Americans would support this nonsense.
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pretty damned difficult to have security and ignorance at the same time.
by ignorance I mean ignorant of what's going on around us.
We need to keep abreast of what's happening. IMO 9/11 was a shock to us only because we didn't expect it. Too long were we complacent.
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Scary to hear self-proclaimed "conservatives" making statements reminiscent of the KGB.
This country is truly going to hell in a handbasket. The party which puports to uphold traditional American values and freedom has changed uniforms and is now playing for the other team.
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midnight Target: No no, Rip is right. For the children, lets install surveilance cameras in all homes. I mean, if you got nothing to hide......
Only in homes, you, traitor?! Everybody person should be equipped with a camera and sound-recoreing device. Also every square inch of space should be covered. Untill it can be accomplished, all areas not under surveilance shoule be declared off-limits and only accessible by people with personal monitoring cameras or closely accompanied by such. Violators to be severely puniched of course.
Of course I cannot take the credit for this idea: Lacey and Friends (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671655930/qid=1034189912/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-4637276-3840840?v=glance)
Eagler: read somewhere you shouldn't do anything you wouldn't want everyone to know about - how much simplier can it get?
Untill the pent-up urges explode in a chaos of nation-wide violence...
Seriously, there are lot of things that I find acceptable and would not hold against you but you may not find them such. Who is going to determine the lowest common denominator? Right - Taliban: work, pray, eat, sleep.
Curval: I can't believe that any Americans would support this nonsense.
So you might be mighty confused not believing your eyes and ears...
AvidMC, you may wish to inquire into the meaning of the ":)" glyph...
miko
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hehehe... OK, Ms. Franky Cox of the USPTO called me back this afternoon. I asked about the Graphic, and it was produced by the staff of the USPTO Pulse (the newsletter of the USPTO). When I asked her about the imagry of the graphic, she replied that because many of the inventions being patented during the rush for homeland security are related to cameras and the such. In fact one is mentioned in the Article (I think she was refering to the "continuous video monitoring system for regulating access to computers" mentioned in the Article)
She had no comment on the upside down flag ;)
-Sikboy
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Might I assume you are no longer a Patent Office geek?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Might I assume you are no longer a Patent Office geek?
Well, I don't work at the patent office, but I can see it from my office window ;)
-Sikboy
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are we as a nation following the same path?
January 30, 1933
Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg appoints Adolph Hitler Chancellor.
February 27, 1933
The German Parliament (Reichstag) burns down. A dazed Dutch Communist named Marinus van der Lubbe is found at the scene and charged with arson. [He is later found guilty and executed].
February 28, 1933
President Hindenburg and Chancellor Hitler invoke Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution, which permits the suspension of civil liberties in time of national emergency. This Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of the People and State abrogates the following constitutional protections:
Free expression of opinion
Freedom of the press
Right of assembly and association
Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications
Protection against unlawful searches and seizures
Individual property rights
States' right of self-government
A supplemental decree creates the SA (Storm Troops) and SS (Special Security) Federal police agencies.
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Originally posted by Mr. Blonde
February 27, 1933
The German Parliament (Reichstag) burns down. A dazed Dutch Communist named Marinus van der Lubbe is found at the scene and charged with arson. [He is later found guilty and executed].
Yes, I could see the smoke from Capitol Hill all the way from my office by National Airport. I wonder if we will ever rebuild the Capitol building?
-Sikboy
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Really? when did it catch on fire must've just happened no news here yet.