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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: funkedup on October 10, 2002, 05:32:15 AM
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Are getting kind of old.
Read this if you have doubts about bravery of French soldiers: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/030681157X
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Agree 100%, FunkedUp.
You only need to look to WW1 to see French bravery in the face of idiotic orders from an idiotic higher command.
Same goes for the early days of WW2.
Also, read any account of French partisan action against the Nazis and you'll see bravery is not a thing that can be attributed (or not attributed, as in this case) to one nation or another.
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They'd have to be brave to walk around everyday not wearing deodorant and reeking of B.O.
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it's just old ... if used as a tongue in cheek (I hope I use it right :)) I can laught otherwise I just forget it in the instant ...
And now I'm used to it as I know what happened in real ...
What bother me more is when some ignorant use it ...
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
They'd have to be brave to walk around everyday not wearing deodorant and reeking of B.O.
After seeing this kind of remark more than thousand time I don't find it anymore humorous ...
Be kind try to find something new
btw my sens of humour is seriously lacking since the 'Handle' affair
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All french surrender jokes I've heard refer not to the soldiers but to the french civilians who are in charge of politics.
When a soldier is in charge of french nation, it's quite the opposite - if the last historical example is any indication they just keep attacking everyone in sight until they run out of males to draft.
miko
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Looks like a good read...thanks Funked, it's otw to me now.
SOB
PS...French surrender jokes will NEVER get old.
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Sorry but a joke is a joke.
Now that being said there IS taking a joke to far AND sometimes a joke is said at the wrong time.
Most people here have a good sense of humor AND they know when to kid someone and when not to.
I did say most not all!
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ya know... I never really thought about the jokes being about french soldiers. I allways felt it was about their government. I also feel that any joke about french govenment is probly not mean spirited enough.
lazs
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I agree , as we say in France "on peut rire de tout mais pas avec tout le monde"(mean something like : we can laugh about anything but not with everyone ...)
it depend of the context and of the reader mood at the time he read the message...
Actually I'm a bit humour impared because of over work ...
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I wouldn't worry about it Straffo. It just shows their complete lack of knowledge of military history. Napoleon and his Frenchmen even gave the British a run for their money.
Austerlitz was one of the greatest victories ever won by any general, anywhere.
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Originally posted by SOB
PS...French surrender jokes will NEVER get old.
Hear hear!
I think I'll change my sig to
French Battlecry: "We Surrender!" *
*Credit to Raubvogel
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For a long while, the battlecry was 'Vive l'Empereur'. And the troops that shouted it would have beaten anything put in front of them, into a bloody pulp.
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What ever happened to that Emperor, pray tell?
Cheese-eating surrender monkey sympathiser.
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"Mont joye saint denis" was used previoulsy
"Dieu et mon droit" anyone ;) ?
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The French are rude and they hurt the feelings of the rest of the world, so its natural that we mock their cowardice, even if its undeserved.
Vive Le France!
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I think back to the Canadian snipers in Afghanistan. Exemplerary duty recognized by all that served around them... except their own government. Canada did not like the idea of commending their soldiers for killing the enemy.
The idea of a nation being a bunch of pacifists does not come from the behavior/reputation of their soldiers. It comes from the behavior/reputation of their government.
Other than that...
What SOB and Animal said!
AKDejaVu
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The French have bungled dang near every military operation from 1915 to 1954. Even at Dien Ben Phu, when the paratroopers were dropping in to help lift the siege, everyone knew it was a hopeless situation.
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This is why I live right next to Waterloo :D
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Too...many...French..surrende r ...jokes...
OK I surrender !
:cool: :cool: :D
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Here's a pretty good webpage for the Normandie-Niemen:
http://www.mediares.fr/niemen/index.htm
Couldn't read a lot of it, but it's got a lot of nice photos. About 3 or 4 pages of 'em.
-SW
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Amazing book. I've read it twice. I would also recomend his book, "Street Without Joy" for a wider view of the Indo-China War.
Also read Laterguy's "Centurians" and "Preatorians" for a look at the results of the Legion's defeat at Dien Bien Phu. Such as the fighting in Algeria against Muslims and their attempted coup against DeGaulle.
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So is Funked suggesting that the French won't surrender after we nuke them? :confused:
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Spooky
Too...many...French..surrender ...jokes...
OK I surrender !
:cool: :cool: :D
nom de dieu !
mais ou est ce donc que tu te cache ???
Reviens voler je suis même pres a faire du P47 avec toi !
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Originally posted by straffo
nom de dieu !
mais ou est ce donc que tu te cache ???
Reviens voler je suis même pres a faire du P47 avec toi !
My French is really bad...I'll take a crack at this:
Name of God.
But where is this thing that you (cache?)
Go back to (voler?) I am mine next to make of P47 with you.
On second thought my French is worse than I thought.
:D
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it translates loosely to
"i surrender and so does my P47"
but something may have been lost in the translation.
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Originally posted by Kanth
it translates loosely to
"i surrender and so does my P47"
but something may have been lost in the translation.
lol...
Something certainly got lost in my translation.:)
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ouch :)
As I see I should have posted in English :p
I'll try to translate :
blood'n gut !
Where the hell were you hidden ????
(I made a horrible galliscisme in the originale version ;))
Come back flying I will even wing you in P47 !
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Originally posted by straffo
ouch :)
I'll try to translate :
blood'n gut !
Where the hell were you hidden ????
(I made a horrible galliscisme in the originale version ;))
Come back flying I will even wing you in P47 !
See this is why French can't be translated.."blood'n gut"? What TF is that?:p
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Ya know it's kind of ironic that the book I mentioned ends with a French surrender.
For sure the history of French military operations has some low points, down there with the Germans and the other "Washington Generals of the History Channel".
But I just want people to know about the bravery of French soldiers, which many seem to be unaware of.
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I have no idea.
Originally posted by straffo
ouch :)
As I see I should have posted in English :p
I'll try to translate :
blood'n gut !
Where the hell were you hidden ????
(I made a horrible galliscisme in the originale version ;))
Come back flying I will even wing you in P47 !
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Well being 1/8 french (grandfather was 1/2 french on mother side) I find this insulting. However Nuking France is ok because Im an American.
Pushes RED BUTTON of doom. Yay, viva le Doom!
Just kidding.
:D
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Originally posted by straffo
nom de dieu !
mais ou est ce donc que tu te cache ???
Reviens voler je suis même pres a faire du P47 avec toi !
Je suis de RETOUR !
j'ai passé un an sans une minute à moi (changement de carriére...)
mais je suivais ce bbs avec intêret pendant tout ce temps!!
je ne suis pas sûr de revenir sur AH dans l'immediat mais si tu voles sur IL2 fais moi signe !!
je suis foutrement content de te "revoir" !!
et le vieux dudule il est ou ??
Ok here's the translation to help you guys practice your French !(I'll make this fast, I think girls scouts are selling cookies down the hall and I will prolly have to surrender if they knock at my door...)
I'm BACK !
I've had a very busy past year (career change...) but I've been monitoring that BBS the whole time.
I'm not sure I will return to AH just yet but if you're flying IL2 let me know.
I'm damn glad to "see" you again !
and where is old Dudule ??
Ps : Hi Funked and Saw !!
and to the "Firebirds" !!
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Originally posted by Spooky
I'm BACK !
I've had a very busy past year (career change...) but I've been monitoring that BBS the whole time.
I'm not sure I will return to AH just yet but if you're flying IL2 let me know.
I'm damn glad to "see" you again !
and where is old Dudule ??
Ps : Hi Funked and Saw !!
and to the "Firebirds" !!
let proceed in English to please the crowd :p
I'm still in AH but not anymore with the FB as I followed our beloved belgian scum in 1st the 9./54 JG GUNHERZ and next in the JG/26 Abbeville kids ...
I don't fly IL-2 except from time to time off line because of the view system :(
// giving up with english ;)
(AH à placé la barre tres haut quand même)
Dudule est toujours scotché en 1940 quelque part dans le nord de la France :D le fait d'être béta testeur doit le motiver perso j'ai mis la boite à la cave :p
veula ...
Sinon tu peux sans doute refaire un test de 15 jours non ?
et toi ça marche ?
toujours à Toulon ?
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Ok no more surrender jokes....
How about we laugh at their hospitals :)
Pay close attention to the last line in the article !
http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=humannews&StoryID=1564989