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Title: 190 for you
Post by: ra on October 10, 2002, 09:17:47 PM

new 190 (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/278295/L/)

Title: 190 for you
Post by: paulieb on October 10, 2002, 09:19:21 PM

Is that the all-new scratch built 190 I've read about from Germany?

Title: 190 for you
Post by: funkedup on October 10, 2002, 10:17:32 PM

Yep the project is still moving along:  http://www.flugwerk.com/new/diary/diary.shtm

Title: 190 for you
Post by: Glasses on October 11, 2002, 01:11:27 AM

FLUGWERK MAKING DORITAS OOOH MY!!!!

Title: 190 for you
Post by: Naudet on October 11, 2002, 05:51:29 AM

Argh FW190D9/N, now i have a goal why i should get a real rich an arrogant business man, who earns millions of $.

Jesus Christ i need one.

Title: 190 for you
Post by: Innominate on October 11, 2002, 06:03:28 AM

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Title: 190 for you
Post by: gatso on October 11, 2002, 07:01:47 AM

Ah. I knew they were considering dora production. Did'nt know they'd actually gone ahead and done it tho.  Very nice.

Anyone know the latest over at Paine field?  No updates on the stormbirds site for 2 months now....

http://www.stormbirds.com

Gatso

Title: 190 for you
Post by: mauser on October 11, 2002, 11:52:45 AM

Cool!  new Doras!

I'd say let ppl use these for shows, movies, etc.  Save Yellow-10 for occasional ordinary (no aerobatics) flight, engine runs (real engine sounds!), displays.  I don't think any of us want to see Yellow-10 and all the hard work put into her scrapped.

mauser

Title: 190 for you
Post by: gofaster on October 11, 2002, 11:52:54 AM

Its not a Dora; its the A8 version, which strikes me as being more visually appealing.  I hope they get all 12 built.  It would be nice to see them used in an air combat film some day!

Title: 190 for you
Post by: Pongo on October 11, 2002, 12:40:31 PM

they left off the 151/20 bulges on the wing root. Unfortunate.

Title: 190 for you
Post by: F4UDOA on October 11, 2002, 12:44:22 PM

Wow,

1900HP reliable on the deck. It must be very fast down low.

95MPH at 20K. Not great at alt but no need to be up there anyway.

Talk about making all of the other kids on the block jealous.

Engine :
 Asch 82 FN / 14 cylinders, 42 ltrs, 1900 hp
direct fuel injected engine
 
Propeller:
 MT-Propeller 3-blades, 330 cm diameter, constant speed, wooden composite blades
 
Wing:
 wingspan :10.50 mtr
area : 18,30 mtr²
 
Fuselage:
 length: 9,10 mtr
height : 3,95 mtr
 
Weights :
 empty weight : ~3.000 kg
max. gross :~ 3.800 kg
 
Fuel Qty
Oil Qty
 ~ 880 ltr
~ 60 ltr
 
Max Speed @
20.000 ft
 635 km/h
 
T/O speed
 165 km/h, strictly three point attitude
 
Landing speed
 185 km/h in landing configuration, three point attitude.
 
Cruise Speed @
2.300 rpm
 585 km/h
 
Initial Climb rate
 4000 ft/min
 
Service ceiling
practical (ATC)
 20.000 ft
 
Range
 990 km w/. VFR reserves

Title: 190 for you
Post by: hazed- on October 11, 2002, 12:44:33 PM

they too expensive :)

now if they make them for say $50000 maybe we could afford to scrape the money together! :)

Title: 190 for you
Post by: funkedup on October 11, 2002, 02:47:20 PM

FYI the motor they are using is the same that was used in the La-5FN and La-7.

I don't know what motor they will use for the Fw 190D.  I don't know of any running examples of the Jumo 213.  Maybe they'll just put an Allison in there?

Title: 190 for you
Post by: mauser on October 11, 2002, 04:20:13 PM

gofaster:  if you read the link, you'll see where they quietly built 2 Doras in addition to those A8's.  

funked:  Ow... ok I hope they find something close to the old Jumo... visions of Buchon-looking Doras will appear in my nightmares :) (you can't invert an Allison can you?) Maybe some Jumos in the Czech repub?  Didn't the Avia S-199 (?) have a Jumo?  One day I'll have to hear in person a real Merlin and a real Jumo, just to have the experience :)

I'd love to have one if I had the money.. but nobody in my family wanted to let me learn how to fly when I was in high school, so all it would do is sit around in a hangar, albeit kept very clean.  So I wouldn't make a worthy owner of any warbird (not that worthiness stopped anyone from getting one).  

mauser