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Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Innominate on October 12, 2002, 08:28:56 AM
On the stats pages, chutes can pick up kills, however a chute can never actually get a death, even when they're brutally gunned down.  This leaves chutes with by far the best k/d ratio in the game!  Besides perking them, I've thought up what I think to be a decent fix.

Every time a chute gets killed, chutes pick up a death, and the player who does it, gets a kill in that category. (Only on the per-plane stats page, not counted in kills or k/d ratio, etc)  Basicly a chutes-killed stat.   So, How about it?
Title: Re: Chute Kills
Post by: Rotorian on October 12, 2002, 09:40:30 AM
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Originally posted by Innominate
  So, How about it?


How 'bout just killing the chute and not worrying 'bout scores?
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 12, 2002, 09:56:06 AM
Does this game reward chute-killers??? :confused:
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Rotorian on October 12, 2002, 09:57:50 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Does this game reward chute-killers??? :confused:


Yes, it is a secret hack.  10k perkies per every chute.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: akak on October 12, 2002, 11:12:30 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Does this game reward chute-killers??? :confused:


Sure does...the reward is the whine on channel 1 after you kill the guy in the chute.


ack-ack
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: SunKing on October 12, 2002, 11:44:08 AM
Stat page should just say how many chutes you popped per tour..Just keep it simple for bragging rights.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 12, 2002, 11:44:50 AM
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.
Title: Waste of ammo.
Post by: Z6 on October 12, 2002, 11:59:21 AM
Big waste of ammo in my opinion.  However its good practice for newbies learning how to kill drunks!  But its really lame to get banged in your chute by some Jackprettythang...
>>>S<<<
GOODHUNTING
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Rotorian on October 12, 2002, 11:59:51 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.







Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Airhead on October 12, 2002, 12:09:11 PM
Currently a chute has no chance against an airplane in a 1 on 1 duel. I say HiTech should give us the WW2OL 20MM Luger to even up the odds. I'd love to see the look on a potential chute shooter's face if he got HOed by a chute.
Title: Re: Chute Kills
Post by: Voss on October 12, 2002, 12:18:46 PM
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Originally posted by Innominate
This leaves chutes with by far the best k/d ratio in the game!


I don't agree. Field gunners can't be killed, and the terrain is still undefeated. Chutes just don't get that many kills.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Sandman on October 12, 2002, 12:33:20 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.


Hello? It's a game, silly. The notion of bravery or cowardice is not applicable.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Mathman on October 12, 2002, 12:33:39 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.


And whining about chute killers is the ultimate display of not understanding that it is a game and is not real.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 12, 2002, 12:41:50 PM
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Originally posted by Mathman


And whining about chute killers is the ultimate display of not understanding that it is a game and is not real.


Hmmmm ... and here I go thinking it was a simulation. :rolleyes:
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 12, 2002, 12:43:17 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Hmmmm ... and here I go thinking it was a simulation.


There's your first mistake.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 12, 2002, 12:56:47 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying


There's your first mistake.

-- Todd/Leviathn


LOL!
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: X2Lee on October 12, 2002, 06:06:23 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.



You're a coward if you dont shoot chutes.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: SunKing on October 12, 2002, 06:27:03 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Hmmmm ... and here I go thinking it was a simulation.
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"There's your first mistake1".


I don't know bout that.. some think its a game.. some a simulation.. to most it's life.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 12, 2002, 08:30:16 PM
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Originally posted by X2Lee



You're a coward if you dont shoot chutes.


Trolls are poppin' up all over this board.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Puck on October 12, 2002, 09:35:36 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.


BWAAAKKK!!

So, let me know the next time you're in a chute so I can get cowardly on your butt  :D
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Cooley on October 13, 2002, 04:36:01 AM
So im in a great 1 on 1 on the outskirts of some furball,,,Fight goes on for about 5 min,,,finally my opponent does a better reversal and blasts me...

As im in the silk.....starting to type in a to him on open chnnl
he swings around and kills my chute

Now it didnt ruin my day or anything,,,but kinda put a damper on the whole encounter

I know its just a game,,However, Good Sportsmanship is part of any good game on a computer or on a field or anywhere else IMO

Its all good tho,,Still a nubie here,
was kinda neat hearing the bullets hit me :D
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: EvilDingo on October 13, 2002, 06:55:25 AM
Why do you bail out?

I always ride my plane into the ground. Much faster than floating around in chute.

Beeker
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: X2Lee on October 13, 2002, 08:14:08 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz


Trolls are poppin' up all over this board.


Thats no troll Im serious as I can be.
If you have some notion of honor you need to get a grip.
We have been thro this on these boards a hundred times. Its a GAME, you dont really die. if shooting chutes is cowardly then bombing the village is worse. Straffing the church is a warcrime of the highest order.
Lucky for us we wont face any tribunals since its
just a game. I bet you bail out so you wont die too.  

Try an experiment, dont bail and see if it hurts when you hit the ground.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Fariz on October 13, 2002, 08:37:04 AM
Do not chute, and you will not be killed, easy.

Till chutes has no real impact on a game it all just does not matter. If you chute or now is up to you. I personally do it no to get a tail crash bug, but I normally do not open the chute after bail so to die faster :) Just wait till mission arena is implimented (I hope they will not kill pilot who successfully bailed there over friendly land), and wait for a real whines when chutes are killed :)
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Dago on October 13, 2002, 09:21:31 AM
If we're not supposed to kill 'em, why do they make em sound like something we should kill?

Chute = Shoot?

If we weren't supposed to kill them,  they should be called "don'tchutes"

dago
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Tumor on October 13, 2002, 09:24:48 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.


I AM THE COWARD KING!!!
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Nilsen on October 13, 2002, 09:36:45 AM
chute shooters are loosers, and lots of them fly la7 and spits aswell.

Play counter-stike instead. just point and shoot.

arcade gamers with no skills what so ever.



:D
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Tumor on October 13, 2002, 09:41:30 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz


Hmmmm ... and here I go thinking it was a simulation. :rolleyes:


Well geez... IT IS A SIMULATION!!.   You get to simulate how you'd fly a combat aircraft in real life if in fact you knew you would be reincarnated in the tower within 5 seconds of being killed.  It's a simulation of what the air war in WW2 would have been like had the mainstay of ALL air forces been Spits, La7's, P51's and N1K's.  You also get a grand simulation of an entire war being fought with the majority of the combatants paying $15 a month to fly they way they want to rather than take orders and do as thier told.  Then of course there's simulating what would happen if you drove a carrier battle group within rock throwing distance of an enemy base full of  kamikazee pilots begging for a target.  Good lawd there's probably hundreds of "simulations" happenin around here!

Of COURSE it's a simulation!!.... maybe not a simulation of reality, but it's a sim alright.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Tumor on October 13, 2002, 09:44:06 AM
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Originally posted by X2Lee


Straffing the church is a warcrime of the highest order.

 


....not when ya park an OSTI next to it!!  Villages and towns are then known as targets :)
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Booky on October 13, 2002, 09:44:23 AM
The one and only reason why I shoot chutes is this;

I must shoot a chute when it is near my field or a field I am trying to capture for the fact that it could a spy calling out info about me or my drunks. And since I must do that then I must kill all chutes because I wouldn't want to be discriminating, now would I?:D

Booky
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Innominate on October 13, 2002, 09:47:47 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
chute shooters are loosers, and lots of them fly la7 and spits aswell.


Not true!!
The best chute killing planes are planes like the early 109s, and 190a5, any of the planes with .30 cal class machineguns are that would otherwise be worthless.

190A-5, 1800 rounds of chute killing pleasure.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Fatty on October 13, 2002, 10:17:13 AM
Yeah, those are the only planes we chute shooters fly.  Because we're not honorable and the other ones are too hard for us.  Only the really good virtual gentlemen fly the tough planes, boy are they something!
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Puck on October 13, 2002, 10:35:25 AM
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Originally posted by X2Lee

Straffing the church is a warcrime of the highest order.


I try never to use rockets on the church in hopes HTC has modeled the congregation running out in the street after the first pass.  I think you get extra perks for gunning down the pastor.

On a less tongue in cheek topic, one of my good friend's (good friends are EXPENSIVE now days) mother in law was IN germany during the war.  Towards the end she was riding her bicycle on the roads around her farm and get straffed by allied aircraft (apparently this happened more than once).  I discovered this one fourth of july while firing off tracers from my XM177E2; she went into a panic attack.  Talk about feeling HORRIBLE!  Won't EVER forget the look on her face.

Then you have to wonder what's so dangerous about a 14 year old girl on a bicycle that she deserved a straffing run.  I suppose she COULD be carring top secret communications from Hitler to Eichmann, but out in the middle of NOWHERE?

Dunno.  Pretty easy to judge people from 3,000 miles and 57 years away.  Hope they got what they were after.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 13, 2002, 12:06:47 PM
LOL guys! LOOOOOL! :D

Talk about smearing the sarcasm a little thick! I don't know ... maybe I'm just too much of a realism buff to enjoy the "Nintendo" style gaming some people advocate here. A perfect WWII sim would for me be as close to 100% realism as possible. With 1:1 scale world and no navigational or targeting aids. Making perhaps two or three sorties a day with maybe a kill or two if I'm lucky. But hey ... that's just me ... apparently.

On a more serious note, Puck. I know the allies did some pretty distasteful things during the invasion of Europe (not that the Axis didn't as well mind you), but what you describe was probably abhorred by even the most hardcore-Nazi LW pilot. LW had a very strict code of honor/conduct, much like the Japanese, but not to the point of limiting the performance of their pilots. A lot of baby faced US and UK pilots did not have that kind of training, and then these things happen. I just wonder what people said when they watched the gun-camera footage, if anyone got the chance to see it that is.

On the point that strafing or bombing a church is a war crime, I'm afraid you're wrong X2Lee. WWII was a declared Total War were the civilian populations of both sides were considered nothing more than a "War Production Workforce". Shooting a pilot in his chute is also not a war crime, but was considered un-chivalry conduct by both sides.

I'm with Cooley and Nilsen10 on this one. I try to send a message to as many as possible in my fights, my executioners as well as my victims. Once I got a 190 who was vulching over my base. I was circling over the base gaining E, and he missed me on two passes. I turned after him, and when he was on the apex of his climb I ripped his wing of with my 30mm hub-cannon at about 1200 yards. I sent a message and got a in return. That's uncalled for ... that's not good sportsmanship.
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: XNachoX on October 13, 2002, 12:51:55 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
I ripped his wing of with my 30mm hub-cannon at about 1200 yards. I sent a message and got a in return. That's uncalled for ... that's not good sportsmanship.


1200 yards? What's your secret? :)
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 13, 2002, 01:11:08 PM
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Originally posted by XNachoX


1200 yards? What's your secret? :)


Just squeezed the cannon trigger and held it in. He was stalling out so he was more or less static in the sky. I was about to stall too after having to climb after him. Shall we say 50-50 aiming and luck?  ... No, you're prolly right ... all luck. :D
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: straffo on October 13, 2002, 02:24:29 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice.


chute shooting is the only way I've found to have a streak past 5 ...
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: X2Lee on October 13, 2002, 05:35:45 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
LOL guys! LOOOOOL! :D





On the point that strafing or bombing a church is a war crime, I'm afraid you're wrong X2Lee. WWII was a declared Total War were the civilian populations of both sides were considered nothing more than a "War Production Workforce". Shooting a pilot in his chute is also not a war crime, but was considered un-chivalry conduct by both sides.

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You didnt say it was unchivary you said cowardly.
See your original quote

"Shooting someone in a chute is the ultimate display of cowardice."

Is it more cowardly than straffing a village with children in it?
My point is, this is a game. Its not real life. So dont try to call people cowards for playing a game.
Now if your talking RL? I agree with you a hundred percent.

Just know the difference in RL and a game ok?
I personaly think it takes a coward to bail in the game.
But hey thats just me     :cool:
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: GScholz on October 13, 2002, 05:44:58 PM
Like I said ... maybe I'm just too much of a realism buff ... ;)
Title: Chute Kills
Post by: Puck on October 13, 2002, 06:55:49 PM
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Originally posted by X2Lee


Now if your talking RL? I agree with you a hundred percent.


Well, maybe.  If the chute was behind enemy lines I might be inclined to shoot at it.  If it was behind friendly lines I'd wave on my way by.  In one case you're getting rid of a potential threat, in the other the war is over for that guy.

TOTALLY (and I mean TOTALLY) off topic, I've been reading about JG26, and they made several mentions of pilots who were captured by the British, then repatirated in 1943.  Hrm?  Anyone know what the deal was with that?  The English were still at war in '43, why were they giving the Germans back their pilots?