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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: beet1e on October 14, 2002, 03:22:00 AM
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Im really looking forward to it. I wont over-dramatise and say Im keeping my account open for it, but if it (the Mission Arena) works, it will be a whole new gaming experience.
Im not privy to all of the proposed features. I understand that you will need to join a mission to be able to take off, and land it to score any points. You wont be able to re-up if you die.
So some traits of the game which have been so annoying in the past should disappear. These include - Fly-till-u-die vulch crap.
- Suicide runs to the CV.
- Opportunist LA7 goon hunters.
- Tiffie smashdown raids, in which guys re-up after suiciding.
- Lone wolf cherry pickers doh! Ill have to change my ways ;)
- Rapid Response LA7 units, who turn up in response to the flashing map, causing me to drop my ord before killing them highly annoying.
hehe the last one was a bit tongue in cheek, but you can see where Im coming from.
Now the one problem were going to have is multiple arenas. Even when there are 300+ in the MA these days, there will be a single digit value for the CT attendance. :( The Mission Arena is like a single European currency - a great idea, but will it work? If played alongside the existing Main Arena, probably not. Because too many fliers seek an instant killing fix and are concerned only with kills per hour. :rolleyes: It would be like the CT is now empty/nearly empty most of the time. If the Mission Arena displaces the Main, then I think were going to see all the old Pizza Whines: Waaaah, theres no fights. Waaah, cant vulch. Waaaah, its Mission Arena week time to mow the lawn. Yap-yap-yap cancelling my account yap-yap...
No polls, so please post here. Will you fly the Mission Arena?
Replies invited from all my critics, flamers etc. But lets see how quickly I am hijacked as this will give an insight into the overall attitude to the Mission Arena.
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Yes!
I will most certainly fly there. I'm hopeing for a more historical
planeset, compared to the now anachronistic MA. Too bad the
CT has so low participation numbers. This new idea really has a
chance to be successful I think... and ... I hope...
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Yup! Sounds like my kind of game! :cool:
I'd fly in the historical arena, if there was other pilots there :( . Main Arena is getting dull with all the crap that's going on.
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depends on how gamey it'll be to game any rank needed to order any dweebs around... or something.
:D
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Yeah I'll be there
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Lotsa folks say they will fly it, hell they said they would fly in the combat theater.
It remains to be seen.
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I'll definately give it a try
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absolutely!
i mostly fly in the CT at the moment, for all the MA reasons you mentioned.
I've got to believe that a Mission Arena will be a success....
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The CT is great on many US prime time evenings - particularly Sun, Tue, and Thursday. Its mostly a furball arena between semi-organized sides flying historically matched planes in an historical terrain.
I'm afraid the Mission Theater is going to kill the CT. From the way its been described, I think it will appeal to more CT dwellers than MA-types, and any loss from the CT is going to be felt. But if it can pull some additional flyers from the MA maybe we'll have
a historic arena with good numbers all the time - and that would be great.
I'll probably fly there, as that is were the guys I like to fly with/against will be found...
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Ill give it a go but in all honesty Ill probably end up in the MA. I have a limited amount of time to get those kills in and when factoring in the wait time for missions to start as well as the time to target it will probably keep me out of it.
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Not if it has the CT numbers I won't. I hope HT is not wasting his valuable time on this.
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I will be there, as will our squadron.
Camo
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Yup.
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absolutely but it all depends on how its done.
If it relly does stick to the sort of TOD type play then it can only get more and more popular.But like you said if the numbers arent there what will it be like?
hope it works out, from what i can see this is pretty much exactly what id want from AH.Finally we get an arena that punishes the dweebs.
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If the main became deserted then I would try it untill a new sim came out that was not "historical" and then I would quit AH and join it. The same thing happened in WB.
I don't care for "kills per hour" so much as 'action per hour'. Missuns are not action to me. being part of a group with a "goal" is not the same as having fun. If I wanted to work and be bored and be part of a team with a 'goal'....
I woulda just stayed at work and made the overtime.
my guess? It will attract a lot of old vets who have managed to burn themselves out and think that this will be a so,ution... It won't of course because... it won't be run the way they want it to be run. They will blame that on why they don't fly there either.
lazs
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If its successful, I can see a future of the MA being a furball arena for those with limited time and need a quick fix...the Mission arena for those who have the opportunity to put in long days on AH.
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I don't fly in the CT because the numbers are usually so low. Even when they're higher (20-40), everyone seems so spread out and uncoordinated that the action is just a bunch of isolated, chance encounters.
BUT...if there are 80-100 in the Mission Theater, and they are organized in some meaningful way, then I will definately participate.
Historical match-ups are important to me.
The CT will probably go away, but if there are 200 in the MA and 100 in the MT, that will be enough for both.
Slow times, when there are only 100-150 on line, might strech pilots a bit thin between the MA & MT.
If the MT proves popular and draws too many players from the MA, I forsee the removal of the "Pizza map" from the rotation. It will be way too big for 200 or so pilots.
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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I havent played in almost 2 years now, been back since a month or so.
They MA has become so crowded it's almost no fun anymore.
The only thing that makes me come back are the missions.
Guys like Rocstar en Keez that put up great missions and see them thru are, in my mind, the people that make AH enjoyable.
I think that the MA is the way to go for AH, to take it to the next level.
So yes, I'll be there.
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Seeings how the CT and the Mission based arena would be kinda overlapping, I would think the CT as it is now would likely be done away with wouldn't it? Look at the features of the new arena...
Quote HTC:
Scoring is completely different with a heavy emphasis placed on achieving mission objectives and survival. With success, you will earn career points that will translate to rank promotions. Stats such as kills, strikes, etc., will be streak based and reset upon death. Your personal best streak will be saved in its own category and not reset. Ranks and medals are also not reset upon death, but death will carry a large penalty, and may even penalize other members of your flight. In earning career points, succeeding in your mission objective is of paramount importance. If your mission is to protect a group of bombers, than their survival, along with that of your own flight, will dictate the success or failure of your mission.
All operations and scoring in this arena are completely done by the host. There is no CM or admin staff to run these missions although the mission profiles will be scripted ahead of time. We plan to start this arena with an 8th AF/Luftwaffe setup and eventually expand to all theaters once we are comfortable with the system.
There are a lot more details to be covered, and this will certainly bring up more questions than we can answer at this time. At this stage, we just want to provide a general outline of whats to come and then give the details as we get closer to completion.
I think it will be pretty cool to get our squads together and run these missions against each other. :) The medals and different ranking/scoring will promote fly-to-live. I'm looking forward to this.
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The mission theatre is my sole reason for going on living right now.:)
Seriously, I am really lookig forward to it. So is the entire Marine Air Wing. Conversations have shown we may move our squad nights there entirely.
You see, all HTC has to do is make the MTA like the TOD, with a new run every 30 minutes. (Which is what they intend to do)
Even without the bells and whistles, like points, rank, etc, it will still be like having a dedicated Ripsnort planning your missions for you.
Now I am of the opinion that it will be appealing to those who fly Missions, Strat, and seek the reset. It will be shunned by the intant action furballers. (It does'nt take a magician to figure this one out.)
Me....I'll be there, day one.
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I'll be there seeing that the CT might meet it's fate (I hope not) but the mission theatre does sound good. I usually fly in missions anyway with my squad and flying to live kills or not, no big change there. The MA is still fun it just dosn't hold my interest as long as it used to.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Seriously, I am really lookig forward to it. So is the entire Marine Air Wing. Conversations have shown we may move our squad nights there entirely.
You do understand that you won't be able to run 100-plane gaggle missions?
:p
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I'm not sure what I'll be doing an hour from now!
The only problem I see is that unless a squad enters this arena together and joins a mission, guys who are used to flying together, can no longer fly together.....it will be like catchin a plane...arrive at the gate late, you''ll have to catch another flight.
Who knows? I know I don't. What I do know is this...HTC has taken us this far, so I'm stayin on the bus.
Honestly, my best guess is that only 10-15 % of the player base will frequent this arena...I believe most players want what the MA offers....the whinin here on this board represents a small number of the overall players subscribed(the hardcore goofy ones post on the BBS). Of course I'm not included in that group as I'm here to provide a balanced perspective to an otherwise skewed mindset.:)
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Originally posted by lazs2
If the main became deserted then I would try it untill a new sim came out that was not "historical" and then I would quit AH and join it. The same thing happened in WB.
I don't care for "kills per hour" so much as 'action per hour'. Missuns are not action to me. being part of a group with a "goal" is not the same as having fun. If I wanted to work and be bored and be part of a team with a 'goal'....
I woulda just stayed at work and made the overtime.
my guess? It will attract a lot of old vets who have managed to burn themselves out and think that this will be a so,ution... It won't of course because... it won't be run the way they want it to be run. They will blame that on why they don't fly there either.
lazs
...said Eeyore, the pessimist..:D
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I'll give the new place a try, sounds cool. I don't fly the CT because the setups are strange, especially the icon and radar settings which are not at all suited for my old eyes.
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I'll be there from day 1. I suspect the rest of 880 will be there as well.
As for the numbers in the CT, they are generally above 50 on Sun-Tue-Thur North American Evening. The other nights, they hover around 20. If you see 20 in there, hop in, there will be more in a flash.
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One other good reason to fly in the Mission Arena:
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let try
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let see && decide if it fit my taste or not :)
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Is it a historical planeset or all planes for both sides?
I'll be there fer sure!!!:)
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I have read that many of you are concerned with entire squads not being able to fly together. Well that is probably true at least at the onset of this new arena. However maybe in the future we might see an automated system where a squad CO reports in to the system on behalf of his/her squad. The CO selects prefered mission types, planes and configurations and the auto system uses that information to set up the missions. Keeping in mind that each mission element is squad based. I.E. If your CO sets your squad up as B-17's in high alt bombing runs then that squad is one group of bombers. Of course it will not be only limited to squad personnel. The flight element is set up in the name of the squad, but if you are a newb or a loner and want to fly in a 17 then wham you select that flight element and join the mission.
What do you guys think?
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My thinking is that if it's done right, it won't matter if there's only, say, 30 people in there; the missions will be scripted such that you end up with something close to a 15v15, and the mission will have them run into eachother. That's the difference between the MT and CT (where those 30 planes are spread out all over the map). In otherwords if done right, low numbers are much less of a problem.
What I *don't* understand is how ya do this with missions scripted ahead of time. Seems the best way is to have this automated somehow, and the server "reads" what's going on in the MT and serves up the appropriate missions.
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I'm definately going to give it a try.. in fact I can't wait!
If it's done correctly (IMHO) I'll probably make it my new home since the MA has gotten a bit stale for me.
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In a worst case scenario, if the mission theater does become a niche arena that fails to grab the contiunous numbers (as with the CT), it would still be useful for frequent, regularly scheduled events like a self-sustaining TOD or CAP. The mission community could arrange their time, squad nights, etc. to take part on euro-friendly or US friendly events several times per week.
I like furballing (my outlook is frankly a lot like Laz's), but I also really enjoy an organized scenario. The problem with the CT is that more often than not, IMO and experience, it is a MA light with less action. If I knew when the CT was going to be populated, and if it was more scenario in focus as opposed to the same base capture concept on historical maps, I would adjust accordingly and play there more often. The same with the mission theater.
Charon
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Yep, I'll be there. Anything to get away from the La7, Spit, N1K hordes.
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Will I try it?
Sure, why not. Maybe it'll be a good alternative for when it's dark in the MA.
Will I fly in the mission arena a lot?
Nope. That's not the kind of game I'm looking for :)
One thing that might help mission arena numbers for those concerned is players comming to AH from other games--I've seen a lot of interest in this idea on other boards (like AGW) so that should bolster any shortage in numbers. I hope the mission arena works out, even though I'm not personally interested in it....variety is a good thing.
J_A_B
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Bee1e:
I doubt you ever see Lazs in the arena anyway. He is still going to be on the same BBS so unless you restrict yourself to posting/reading under the "why is the Mission arena always empty?" BBS section, you are still going to have to put up with him. And cruel-hearted fellow that he is, while he won't show up in the mission arena, I wouldn't be surprised to see him stating the obvious in the Mission arena BBS area.
Hooligan
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Will be there for sure!
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No.9 run mission's often and have a lot of fun, with the arena setup these are often futile but with a more strategic mission based arena it would making bombing worthwhile. I really look forward to the mission based arena and hope it get's good support.
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Hooligan. I quote Lazs from another thread in the O'Club.
beetle... in double ought... Hooligan and I drove a fiat about 1200 miles in england and Scotland. we drove it on those crappy, narrow, rainsoaked roads and did our best to figure out all the symbols and roundabouts. Worse thing for me was tryuing to shift the "stick in two week old jello" shifter with my left hand while entering a "roundabout" and trying to figure out why none of the cutsie signs matched the map.
Hooligan, you lost all credibility with me when I realised you were one who would spend your own money for the privilege of being in the company of Lazs.
I occasionally see Lazs in the MA. I congratulated him yesterday in fact - for landing 2 kills in an FM2. I don't understand his need to antagonise everyone, both in his own posts and those of others. Still, I'm glad he has found a friend in you. :) But you are right. Lazs and I are eight time zones apart, fortunately - for both of us.
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I probably won't fly it much at all. I fly the Friday TOD and then log onto the MA or CT for some furball action. Every once in awhile I'll participate in the strat game, but it's really just an excuse to furball some more in a plane other than the Spit V.
However, I'm glad it'll be there as an option. :)
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I'll certainly give it a try, but the 8th Airforce campaign that it'll be introduced with really isn't my cup of tea.
Once they add in RAF elements or do a Pacific setup then I'd be far more interested.
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Beet1e:
I find it humorous in the extreme that you would think anyone would want your approval, or would place any value on having "credibility" with you.
Hooligan
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Of course will all fly it when it opens.. question is will you fly the week after the grand opening.
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Hooligan -
I find it humorous in the extreme that you would think anyone would want your approval, or would place any value on having "credibility" with you.
No need to have bothered responding to my thread then.
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Ahh, who was it that said that "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"? Though I still maintain my AH account in anticipation of 1.11 and the promised mission arena, as well as dabbling in WB's where I find the historical scenarios amazing, I started playing another sim about 2 months ago and I'm pretty hooked. Why? Because everything is mission based resulting in me feeling more like a re-enactor than a gamer. I'm also given the opportunity to gain rank and thus be allowed to post missions. Presently I'm a grunt on either the allied or axis side and can only accept others' missions. However, these missions are super interesting and seem to be well led and with ample participation so it's fun to know what you have to accomplish before you start. Another thing I like is the most lifelike terrain I've yet seen which allows you to hide behind trees or in bushes when playing as an infantryman (LOL, the other night I crawled through bushes and found an enemy sniper lying in the weeds with his back to me. Can't begin to tell you the pleasure when I aimed my rifle and shot him right up the kazoo). Take a cue AH, expand the idea. There's a whole bunch of us who want more re-enacting and historically based battle simulations.
Beeg
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Will you fly the Mission Arena?
Probably not, or at least, not often.
The CT normally has no more than 5-10% of the players that the main arena has. I think this is because the CT is restrictive: you can only fly a limited collection of planes. The mission arena would appear to me to be considerably more restrictive than the CT: you will be able to only fly one kind of plane, only at a certain time, only to a certain objective, only in a certain way, with a prechosen target. So many constraints may mean that only a few people would be interested in each mission.
However, like others have mentioned, it's always good to have choice so it's good to have the mission arena choice.
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I doubt it. I'm sure of it as a steady diet.
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I'll give it a try.
It will be interesting to see how side balancing is accomplished, which I think will be the biggest challenge. I'd guess that most of those who are looking forward to this arena picture themselves flying their favorite plane against an equal force of historical adversaries. I wonder how they will react when all the One Trick Pony slots are full and they are offered a ride in a "dog".
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geeze beetle.. I'm kinda flattered that you think about me so much but... to think about how other people think about me? Aren't you getting just a triffle.... obsessed.
As I have told you before... it has nothing to do with you being attractive or not.. I just don't go that way. we can still be friends tho right?
lazs
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most of the "historical" guys are one trick ponies...
lazs
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Having only flown limited times in the CT, I am speaking from a position of considerable ingnorance. However, if I am not mistaken, themajor difference between the CT and the Mission Arena is the concept that the Mission Arena will be structured, and not a simple Main Arena with a limited plane set, like the CT appears to be.
So you are restricted as to what you fly, but you will fly in an organzied fashion, with a stated objective and rewarded for a job well done.
TO me, the CT, is only the MA, with a limited planeset,and somewhat better sportsmanship.
I'm very very interested in the Mission arena, and will probably make it my new home.
I have no qualms about giving up my F6F. Flying a limited planeset only helps your dogfighting skills, as you learn the capabilites of the planes you fly against in the Main. It sure can't hurt.
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It's too early to ask this question I think. If it's implemented one way, many people will fly it, while many others will hate it, or implemented another way, will be the other way around.
Once we know more specifics, then it's time to ask the question.
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Lazs!
As I have told you before... it has nothing to do with you being attractive or not.. I just don't go that way. we can still be friends tho right?
Well, if that is an olive branch, I feel I must give consideration to accepting it. :D We've known eachother a long time, since WB 2.01 when we flew for Purps.
But first, can you rise to Beet1e's Lazs Challenge? All you have to do is to write five things you like about Aces High, and name three people with whom you enjoy flying, and why. If you can do that, without voicing your disdain for anyone and without berating the game or any of its arenas, I will consider your olive branch.
:)
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most of the "historical" guys are one trick ponies...
Now why would that be any more or less true for non-historical guys? Assuming that I, as a common CT denizen, fall into the "historical" group, I freely admit that for early, mid and late war I have favorite rides to which I tend to gravitate. For early war I enjoy the turn and burn A6M2. In the mid war setups I tend towards BnZ in the 190A5. In the late war setups I find the Nik and F6F to be enjoyable.
Now if the only mission slot available in the Mission Arena turns out to be a B-17 I will probably give it a miss. I don't really enjoy flying the heavies. But somehow I don't think "fighters" vs. "bombers" where the "tricks" be alluded to.
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ok beetle....
I like the FM's in AH
I like the view system in AH
I like the damage model in AH
I like the gunnery in AH.
I like the sense of permanance all the above have over other sims.
there are more but u asked for 5.
3 people I enjoy flying with?
pick any three BK's even drex is ok to fly with but I am sick of propping him up and making him look good.
lazs
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Originally posted by muckmaw
TO me, the CT, is only the MA, with a limited planeset,and somewhat better sportsmanship.
The thing that sets the CT apart for me is the historical mach-ups. I like fighting against big blue planes when I'm in a Zeke, etc. If I want to pretend that I'm Pappy Boyington, I want to shoot at little zippy planes with big red meatballs on the wings. Fighting against other hogs, and a hodge podge of planes from all countries is a worthy challenge, but not immersive and believeable.
The Mission arena should also address this immersive issue, probably even better than the CT. My anticipated problem with the mission arena is my lack of patience may lead me astray. I tend to die every 5 to 15 minutes. If missions only start every 30 minutes, well I can see my self wandering to the CT or MA for a quickie. I'll prolly just get started in a good fight when the next Mission Arena sortie starts, die 2 minutes later, then end up staying put.
eskimo
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Lazs -
Hmmm... I should really mark your test as an F. You didn't follow the instructions. You were asked to say WHY you like flying with those particular guys, but you didn't. You might have been joking when you said even drex is ok to fly with but I am sick of propping him up and making him look good.
but there was an element of disdain there.
WHY do you like flying with those guys? Come on, say something nice! :) It wont kill you.
However, the very fact that you agreed to take "Beet1e's Lazs Challenge" indicates that you want your olive branch to be considered, and that you ascribe to me a certain amount of credibility - something your pissant touring partner Hooligan is not prepared to do! LOL :D
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Not if numbers are as out of whack as the MA.
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beetle... i have no idea what you mean by "olive branch".. you seem to think that I am your enemy or sumthing. I am not your enemy. Simply because I point out the times that you are wrong and do my best to make sure that your wrongheaded ideas are disputed is no reason to feel that I dislike you personally.
as for "why".... well.. I thought that saying I like flying with fellow BK's was enough. I thought everyone knew that flying with BK's is an end unto itself and the heigt of the AH experiance.
I like flying with people who don't take themselves too seriously and who are bright with a good sense of humor. An example would be stealing each others kills and laughing about it. All sorties are loosely agreed upon... or not... The guys I like to fly with will come back to help even if they have no ammo and are damaged.. I have chased cons off squaddies when I had no ammo at all.
The "missun" arena... I actualy hope that it is excieting enough and somehow... works for the "simmers" the ones who think they know about realism. They can't ever agree so I doubt it but... I hope they go there. There are probly 50 guys on during prime time in the MA that I would never miss... Their leaving would enhance my experiance slightly rather than detract from it but.....
no one knows what the missun arena will be like. It may be jam packed with excietment and fun and attract a lot of us.. If that's the case tho.... the "simmers" will roundly condem it as a "furball" arena. If it is slow and timid.... the furgballers will stay away in droves and it will be another niche arena competeing with the likes of the CT.
The faithful will hide from each other in it and get one or two kills an hour and promply declare themselves the only skilled players in the game.
lazs
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The 'capture the base with paratroops' model that AH uses in the MA and CT goes back over a decade.
The 'auto scenario', or 'auto Dok' has been the holy grial of MMP flight sims for a long time. It was tried before in AW2 and it failed. Why did it fail there?
The first reason it failed is that players are rats (tm DD) and will find any hole to exploit. An example was the squad reservation system. Players would reserve the best planes (say a small flight of 262s) and then switch sides at the last minute to deprive the other side of those planes. Flight plans were treated as suggestions, buffs often were able to make their runs un-opposed. That is, if there were enough players willing to fly buffs at all.
Another big reason it failed was that the missions got stale, people got tired of running the same missions over and over.
Despite these problems in the past, I am confident that if HTC makes an a full effort, they can be the first to get it right.
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only way ill fly there is if we are all in Spits,N1Ks, and La7s. We squeak about the CT we never fly in, whine about whining, and insult each other as much as possible on the BBS:D
* the above is a joke not to be taken seriously*
I cant wait for the Mission Arena sounds fun as hell:)
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yep slash. I hope they limit it to just the TA and the mission areana. Then the gamers can go and lick bill gates's shriveled little billionaire b@@@s and buy a copy of fighter ace. Sure we will lose a couple of the crotchety old players and some of the annoying 16 yr olds but all in all I would call that win win.
if you find this even mildly offensive, it worked, and you can send your complaints to imaloss@idreamaboutla7s.com.
As for me, I will be in the mission arena with the rest of the guys in the CT, as I am sure it will be shut down. That is fine, because the CT is just a hold over for mission arena.
Oh, a little logic puzzle for you guys. If nobody will fly in an arena with no one flying in it, how does the MA get repopulated after the server crashes? Does hitech have to prime it? Do all of the employees have to fly for a couple of minutes so it looks like people are in there? fricking sheep.
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Lazs
beetle... i have no idea what you mean by "olive branch"..
Every now and then, I emit tell-tale things which give the game away that I am a preacher's son - the one thing I have in common with Alice Cooper. The olive branch was from the Noah's Ark story - dove was released to see if there was dry land, and came back with an olive branch - first sign that floods were subsiding - yap-yap - you get the picture. It was the earth's way of showing it was still there. Biblical bunkum, but I must not digress. ;)
Yeah, I had a guy try to steal my base capture the other night, but I had the last laugh. :D A second C47 was following me and really stuffing the nose down to catch up to me. I dropped my troops, whereas he landed (vehicle base) thinking he could get his troops in more quickly that way. But mine was a good drop from a knife edge turn right over the map room. The other guy made the comment that his troops were running faster than mine, and so they might have been, but mine didn't have to run as far. :D:D So I got the capture. I think the other guy was secretly pissed off about the whole thing, judging from his remarks.
Lazs, I forgot - third part of the challenge is to write a post (more than 100 words) without using the word "timid". :D Just kidding. ;)
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I will most definitely fly there :)
No more senseless suicidal furballing :) :)
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beetle... i am familiar with the biblical reference... I simply didn't know how it pertained to us.
I think my use of the word "timid" shows restraint... look at blauk for the other side of things.
lazs
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I will be flying there. As many have said, the main arena is just lame.
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Hmm, yes, I would definately have a go, - it sounds good.
The CT sounds good too, but not many people fly in there.
I have to agree with many people above that this new arena would perhaps take people away from the CT rather than the MA, but yet, I am not sure. Remember the Battle of Britain event? It was set up like a mission arena basically and what happened? It got overbooked!!!!!
Guess the only way we're gonna find out about this is by trying it out. Looking forward HTC :)
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Mission Arena (btw probably it will have some other name, so not to be confused with MA) is the most attractive thing in AH for a very long time. All depends as it implemented. I already see several possible problems, which designers can face, but can't comment before new on what it will be like are published.
For example I already do not like the idea that medals and ranks stay with you after your death. Probably pilot death is the main thing which this arena is bringing to AH, and it shall be just as few compromises here, as possible. We already have an endless spawn/death ability in MA, I am looking for a different expireince for MisA.
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yes
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I think this is a very good idea and will most certainly be trying it out.
Would it be possible to setup some sort of system whereby u could rescue downded pilots who have bailed successfully? using catalinas or even the c47 as it stands, but make it possible for the player to board the plane if it lands near?
Would add realism to the penalties for being shot down, if u could be rescued and perhaps halve the time you are forced to sit in tower.
This would appeal to the many players who feel they are simply not good enough to fly fighters or even bombers with the new sights as they are, and would play for this reason to run the rescue missions.
I dont know but it would be fun trying to evade capture while awaiting a rescue goon!
Anyone else think so?
Hammy
"ONLY" the dead have seen the end of war!
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That would be a great option Hammy.:D
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If it would increase the angst of the cowardly bailers when I shoot them in their chutes then..... it would be an excellent idea.
lazs
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chute shooters suck:D
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As of yet, I have seen very little to no information regarding the "Mission Arena"...
I'll fly it, if it ain't a Fighter Ace recreation with historical match ups and ranks (General, Lieutenant, Colonel bellybutton Grabber)...
We'll see... but so far I haven't seen anything to really intrigue me, or believe it's gonna be some kind of uber good arena.. atleast no better than the MA...
And in the end, it'll still boil down to isolated furballs. If you believe otherwise, you should probably remember to not bring electrical appliances into the shower/tub.
-SW