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Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: DingHao2 on October 15, 2002, 02:21:42 PM: WEP in AH models 2 separate things: boost from closing the waste gate and boost from injecting a second (or third) fluid into the engine.

So, why not separate all these functions? The waste gate would be fully proportionally controlled, like the propeller pitch, and any fluids would be injected by pressing P.

When the waste gate is closed over a certain amount, the temperature begins to creep upward faster as the waste gate is closed more. Once it is opened, the temperature would begin to drop slightly, then more rapidly as it is successively opened.

The aircraft equipped with nitrous oxide, water/methanol, or some other boosting fluid would have a tank of it, like a fuel tank, and when it's gone, it's gone. You would have to land to refill it.

What do you think?

(Now, if you didn't know that WWII aircraft had turbochargers, think again...the T on BMW 801T stands for turbocharged)
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Chairboy on October 15, 2002, 03:22:57 PM: Gosh, is 'Hitech, Read this:' the best you can do? Whenever I get email that has the subject 'read this now' or something like that, I'm immediately prejudiced against it.

Perhaps Mr. Hitech doesn't like people telling him what he should read?

More flies w/ honey, my friend.

IMHO
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Duedel on October 15, 2002, 03:46:26 PM: Surely not the best way to get things as u want.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Maverick on October 16, 2002, 01:16:37 PM: The premise you operated with at the start of the thread is incorrect. The wastegate closure is not related to overtemp. For the most part it is transparent to the pilot. In otherwords the stick actuator doesn't have to monitor it, it monitors itself based on manifold pressure, throttle settings and altitude. The two stage supercharger did have a select switch to move from low (1'st stage) to high supercharger (2nd stage) on some aircraft. In others it happened automatically. In the game it is handled fully automatically. The only boost modeled that is player control is the war emergency power (WEP) and that WAS pilot controlled, usually by moving the throttle past a safety wire detent in the quadrant, hencew the extra key stroke.

As a matter of game play it is best left to the game code rather than requiring the player to switch a control from one position to the other. If you need this for "immersion" you'd be better off playing MS flight sim #whatever, where the game is playing with the knobs. IMO
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Arfann on October 16, 2002, 01:27:31 PM: What a bunch of voyeur dweebs. It didn't say "Maverick read this" or "Chairboy, read this". It said "Hitech read this". Y'all should have done like me. It wasn't addressed to me so I didn't read it.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: vorticon on October 16, 2002, 01:29:32 PM: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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i hate it when people start posts with please read this....

they dont get anywhere
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Chairboy on October 16, 2002, 01:37:59 PM: Well golly, Arfann, I done suppose he musta meant to send it as an email then. Seems kinda silly postin' a private message to some fella on a public message board....
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Kronos on October 16, 2002, 01:49:40 PM: heheheehe... did you guys miss the part where he asked HT if he knew WWII aircraft had turbochargers??

ROFLMAO

:D :D :D
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Fariz on October 16, 2002, 02:17:22 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Arfann
What a bunch of voyeur dweebs. It didn't say "Maverick read this" or "Chairboy, read this". It said "Hitech read this". Y'all should have done like me. It wasn't addressed to me so I didn't read it.

You sure? Seems like you did not read it. Stop saying you did not, when you actually did not.

I did not read it either btw.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Arfann on October 16, 2002, 02:58:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Fariz

You sure? Seems like you did not read it. Stop saying you did not, when you actually did not.

I did not read it either btw.

Nor did I read this.

So there.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Shane on October 16, 2002, 03:00:08 PM: i didn't read anything either, so i gave it a one-star rating.

how can i give it 5 stars if i don't read it?
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Rude on October 16, 2002, 03:05:15 PM: I hate to break to you guys the sad news, but HiTech only listens and implements MY suggestions.

Just enjoy the game.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Turbot on October 16, 2002, 03:18:10 PM: I never read it, and I will never read it again.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Pongo on October 16, 2002, 03:26:41 PM: I didnt read it either..
But I wonder. Does the T in Bf109T stand for Turbo charger?
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: marauder on October 16, 2002, 03:31:50 PM: Read what?....

;)
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Dago on October 16, 2002, 09:17:54 PM: Quote
(Now, if you didn't know that WWII aircraft had turbochargers, think again...the T on BMW 801T stands for

Gee, I wonder what those spinning things are on the P38, top of the booms aft of the engines, just outboard of the pilot? And what are them spinning things on the B17 under the nacelle engines, very similar looking to the P38 spinny things, ya know, those things hooked up to wastegates?

dago
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: DingHao2 on October 16, 2002, 09:30:06 PM: Hey, I'm giving a suggestion here for better modelling of WEP. I'd like some other suggestions, if you don't like it.

I apologize if you take offense to the way I worded the subject; I could have done better.
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Dago on October 16, 2002, 10:15:33 PM: WEP modeling is not much of a big deal really, especially when considered in the context of all that they have to model in this game. Do we really want alot of time invested changing WEP modeling to take away from development time? Is it that important? Probably not.

WEP on most aircraft consisted of a water mix injected into the the intake to cool the combustion chambers at highest power settings to prevent detonation. This also caused a slightly higher density of intake air, and both combined allowed more fuel to be burned for more power without the resulting detontation. Time limiting WEP might be more accurate as the time the water mixture would hold out is probably more realistic.

Thats how I remember HT and the boys doing it in WB.

Once had a guy try and tell us that WEP was water sprayed on the outside of the cylinder to cool it. Pretty funny that one.

dago
Title: Hitech, Read this:
Post by: Saurdaukar on October 17, 2002, 12:42:20 AM: I cant even read.