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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hblair on October 15, 2002, 03:38:59 PM
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Frankly, I'm kinda dissapointed in the interest in the KOTH event. For those of you unfamiliar with the event and it's history, KOTH was started in air warrior years ago and apparently enjoyed a rich tradition with a big following. It was suggested by (I think) Seeker about a year or year and a half ago that we get this event or something similar in Aces High. The Scenario team drew up a similar event we called "Wild Wednesday". This was a similar event, with some differences in rules. But the end result was a "last man standing" sorta theme.
This WW event did not go over well with some of the AW faithful. Some felt it was a cheap copy of the original King of the Hill from Air Warrior. Well, In recent months there have been former players of Air Warrior recruited into the Scenario Corps. One of which took on the KOTH event as his own project with the apparent goal of bringing it to it's former glory in Air Warrior. As a result of this and other changes that needed to be made, the WW event was dropped and it was decided to have the KOTH event as the only "last man standing" type event in the game. This was all well and fine with me and others as it was basically the same format as WW. Well, we're about 4 months into King Of The Hill in Aces High and attendance has dwindled down to where WW was or maybe even fewer than that.
What I want to know is where did all the support for KOTH go? Since Air Warrior was discontinued a year or so ago, I'd think that at least 50% of the then current AW population came over here. Why is KOTH not as popular here as it once was in Air Warrior?
I personally enjoy this event and would hate to see it chopped because of lack of participation, which is probably where it's headed. (that's my guess, I don't know that) I do know that there is little to no promotion/ participation in the event by the group who so desperately wanted it in Aces High. I assume KOTH was this past friday evening? I was AFK and couldn't participate. I came home wanting to read about it and there was not surprisingly no AAR telling what happened or who won. Found out from reading my squad board how the event ran. Apparently it didn't matter enough to bother with an AAR by the CM in charge of the event.
Does anybody care about KOTH?
This is not a rant by a mad ex-CM but a post by a concerned player who'd like to see this thing promoted.
[edit]ops, meant for this to be in the "special events general" forum[/edit]
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I enjoyed the Wild Wednesdays and thought that AH had done a good job of taking the original KOTH concept and adapting it. I know for me personally, scheduling a set amount of time to fly is easier to do on a wednesday than on a friday.
I also liked the fact that it was weekly and I think the CM team running it, Hblair and the person before him (Sling?) that I cannot recall right now, were very good at posting AAR's and promoting a sense of competition and rivalry that was effective in drawing in the hot sticks to come compete.
That was the real attraction...knowing that the reward for setting aside those 90mins out of your week gave you a ticket to go up against some of the best competition in AH.
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oedipus, prizes sound good, but have you flown in KOTH or WW here? I've never seen anything near a "chest thumping contest".
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Originally posted by Hornet
I also liked the fact that it was weekly and I think the CM team running it, Hblair and the person before him (Sling?) that I cannot recall right now, were very good at posting AAR's and promoting a sense of competition and rivalry that was effective in drawing in the hot sticks to come compete.
That was the real attraction...knowing that the reward for setting aside those 90mins out of your week gave you a ticket to go up against some of the best competition in AH.
Thanks hornet. I think interesting AAR's are an important part of promoting/keeping interest in events.
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As far as I'm concerned, the WW was the ultimate furball. You got in excess of 40 guys surrounding you, and not one of 'em is your friend.
I thought the WW was put together well and a fun event, I had to stop flying it because of real life.. but wednesdays are better for me (and they were at a good time), fridays- no can do at all.
Never flew the KOTH, so can't comment on it.
-SW
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I think mostly because it's only once a month and nobody knows when it is. I only made it last week because somebody happened to mention it on the squad channel.
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KOTH was originally started back in AW as more of a "squad duel". Many (not all) of the original participants came from my old squad the 327th Steel Talons. The original format was pretty simple, first to win 3 fights was KOTH. Reigning champ picked the 1st plane (all used same fuel settings and plane) and the winner picked from then on. KOOL, STICK, SPAZ, YES as well as 4-5 others from a second squad (sorry your names eude me guys) really drove it. Usual attendance was 12-20. Originally it was an all "A-land" event but others quickly jumped over. It was held at a rear A-land base every Friday. Was always a great time and the only prize was bragging rights. glad to see its here...will be one of my first things to support when I "re-up" again.
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Man, I love King of the Hill.
Its my favorite TV show.
I like Boomhauer the best. Dang'O man!
dago
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WW was always interesting, because whenever a =TED= member was present we would win, besides me that is :D
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I flew it 1 time it was even less fun then wild wednsday.....
I heard daniko kicked arse though :)
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Originally posted by Lazerr
WW was always interesting, because whenever a =TED= member was present we would win, besides me that is :D
I don't remember it that way at all. :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
(neither does Nath)
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having the start time earlyer would help to attract more of us europeans...:D
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I liked Wild Wednesday a lot. I personally thought it was a stupid idea to change it, so I never really followed where it was going when it changed into KOTH.
SOB
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I don't think prizes would make a difference...I offered a free WW2 DVD(which Tac won) way back in WW,but the turnout was the same...It was more fun though..:)
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I'd be willing to donate a flaming duck to the next competition..
Duck fires tend to bring in the people.
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Kinda surprising to me that the guys who wanted KOTH so terribly bad in Aces High are mostly absent from the event altogether.
Seeker, where are you? :)
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Originally posted by hblair
Kinda surprising to me that the guys who wanted KOTH so terribly bad in Aces High are mostly absent from the event altogether.
Seeker, where are you? :)
yerup.
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for me... the fact that there was nothing stopping someone from hiding from the rest until the end of the event killed it for me. I felt that perhaps last man standing should also have a "kills" rule too. say you had to have 4 kills or it went to the next to the last man standing and so on.
lazs
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Well KOTH was a Full Realism event in AW so it was only “known” or available to the significantly smaller FR community.
Having said that I know many people that would gladly participate if they knew about the event and when it was held—promotion for this KOTH has been less than stellar.
Perhaps it could be posted as a pop-up window when you log into the MA/CT arenas…
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Originally posted by lazs2
for me... the fact that there was nothing stopping someone from hiding from the rest until the end of the event killed it for me.
That and the lack of any real mechanism to prevent winging or squad cooperation in an event that claimed to be one big "free for all."
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Thanks for the heads up, Hblair.
To be honest; I didn't even know KOTH was still running; I attended the first couple but then I thought it was cancelled due to the TOD's?
Is it ever announced?
Secondly; I attended every WW and KOTH I could for about four months in the hope that the event(s) would take off and hopefully be duplicated at a more friendly time; that likely hood seems about as remote as ever; and it's hard to remain enthusiastic about getting up on a Saturday at 04:30 my time in the vain hope that one day, timing could be changed. Additionaly, I seem to remember a certain antipathy between the events team and myself at the time which certainly took some of the lustre off the experience.
But that's all just personal crap.
Although it's been a long time since I attended KOTH/WW, I did think there were some weak points, which I'll list. If they've been attended to in the mean time, then just ignore my comments :)
a) The terrain used was too large (the "gladiator bowl" in the DA). It worked for jets, but with anything else you ended up with three small furballs, one over each base, with a bunch of cherry pickers in the middle. Not the huge single furball such events should be.
b) Lack of an alt cap meant that some guys disapeared at the start of each round, only to reappear to finish off wounded/bingo birds at the end. Again; not, in my opinion, in the spirit of the event.
c) Winging. Again, this should (and could) be banned out right from the start. We have an admirable tool in the film viewer for detecting this kind of nonsense, shame it's never used. There were also numerous cases of some dick following people around during the "climb out phase" only to nail their quarry the second "game on!" was announced. Lame in the extreme (IMNSHO); and as fair as I know never suppressed.
d) Uncertainty over settings. It seemed at the time that each CM had his own idea of what the arena settings should be. This I took particular exception to. (Perhaps it's more fair to say that there was no established standard set up, leaving each "CM of the week" to do his best amidst a howl of protest until last weeks settings were replicated).
Basicaly, events (all events) live or die on the atmosphere the engender. I certainly (at the time) gained the impression that the events team looked down greatly upon WW/KOTH for it's lack of role playing and realism when compared to the TOD's, scenario's and similar; and thereby failed to realise that rule breaking (and by implication quality of CM'ing) is at least as important (if not more so) in these kinds of events *precisely* because there is no crutch of immersion to fall back on. The competition its self is everything, and anything that hampers that competativeness (or, to be fair, the perception thereof) is the death of the event. You just will not ever get the best of sticks (such as Drex, Todd, Shane or Laz) turning up if they think they're being set up or cheated, and without the best of sticks the event loses the panache it needs to capture the interest of others. After all, one has to ask what makes these type of furball events more attractive than a TA furball. Do they offer the same level of competition, rate of action and competitor recognition? If not, then why bother?
Then again, it's been quite a while since I attended; so maybe my views on this are obsolete.
In general I think events at large are under publicised; much more use could be made of the MOTD system in the MA; for instance; and as the primary point of WW/KOTH events is bragging rights, more could be made of the out come.
Maybe these types of events are passé these days in an atmosphere of squad and country loyalty and a burning desire to "win the war".
Maybe simply AH doesn't have what it takes to recreate the fun that was to be had in an old Amiga based game. I don't know.
But it'd be sad if that were true.
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Originally posted by MWHUN
Having said that I know many people that would gladly participate if they knew about the event and when it was held—promotion for this KOTH has been less than stellar.
Perhaps it could be posted as a pop-up window when you log into the MA/CT arenas…
I was thinking along similar lines - I am sure there are many people who would fly in the KOTH if they knew it was on!. Only a very small proportion of players ever read the message boards, so there needs to be an alternative method of publicising events like KOTH. There is Jordi's email list, but there again, people need to know it exists in the first place!
I think a big difference in AW was the fact that we logged in via a website, and news of upcoming events was plastered all over the login page to catch people's eyes as they logged in to play.... they would see an advert and maybe a link to click to find out more information.....
I'm not saying we should have web-page access to the game :eek: but there certainly needs to be something to catch the eyes of the "passing trade", so to speak. Something to think about.... :)
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Never really liked the KOTH in AW. Took too long, not as much fun as some might recall.
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I heard stories about previous KOTH such as a lot of illegal cooperation between players so that winning wasn't really the solo player accomplishment it was supposed to be. For a true measure of solo accomplishment I don't imagine you could ever do better than a dueling ladder.
The Rumble was fun. I look forward to the next one of those.
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Originally posted by lazs2
for me... the fact that there was nothing stopping someone from hiding from the rest until the end of the event killed it for me.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
That and the lack of any real mechanism to prevent winging or squad cooperation in an event that claimed to be one big "free for all."
-- Todd/Leviathn
Did ya try it? Lazs, on at least 3 occasions last Koth I saw people told to get back to the fight. DMF, of course some winging will occur, some on the sly, and some encouraged (like the goofy host making statements like "ok Tumor has 2 wins... pigpile Tumor"!!) Overall... it's a heck of allot of fun, even the squeaking :D
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Originally posted by Turbot
I heard stories about previous KOTH such as a lot of illegal cooperation between players so that winning wasn't really the solo player accomplishment it was supposed to be
Winging isn't so much an issue as it once was since the "CM eye" was made available to all the participants. If I see two squaddies chasing someone without shooting one another, I let it be known on open channel. :)
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Yeah,without mentioning names..I saw winging..Then the next week the other guys winged to get revenge....Then the request to join spams..etc.
:rolleyes:
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What we need in the KOTH is a No Handle(only distance) icon setting available to the CM. This would make the event a freeaking blast. Winging would be too much trouble. I hope HT makes this setting (or something similar) available to the CM's for this event.
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Good point hblair.
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tumor.. no i didn't try it. I don't care if people were told to "get back in the fight". They should have a small area and an alt cap. referee should disqualify anyone out of bounds...
I see nothing wrong with haveing a minimum kill qualifier. Don't have a clue as to what you could do to stop winging up. I'm with DMF tho... not really a free for all.
lazs
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I thought 20 to 40 people was a good turn out for WW. More is better, but it worked. KOTH, wtf is that. I've never been to one. I had a squaddie tell me one was fixin to start, I wasn't really interested. Wen. are much much better for me than Fri.
I've had allot of fun in WW, actually won a round once if you can believe that. Prizes? Who needs stinkin bribes to go have fun FURBALLING to my heats content?
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Oh, almost forgot. A smaller arena for the event, WW would be nice. Koth? BAH!
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Originally posted by lazs2
for me... the fact that there was nothing stopping someone from hiding from the rest until the end of the event killed it for me. I felt that perhaps last man standing should also have a "kills" rule too. say you had to have 4 kills or it went to the next to the last man standing and so on.
lazs
I hate to agree with lazs, but he is right.
As for making it known to players, someone above mentioned the way people logged into AW, through the web page, which could get flashing banner ads to attract attention.
Also, if I remember right, the SEA description was updated to show the current event that was running.
Perhaps HTC could add a feature to the top-level clip-board that could somehow advertise a special event was scheduled to happen. The MOTD is ok, but it's just text. Something Eye-catching that could be shown on the clip-board BEFORE logging into the MA might draw a large crowd.
As for prizes... how about a free month's subscription to AH? It's only once a month, how much could it hurt HTC to give away $15.00 worth of gaming to the winner?
As for time and day... Three Friday nights are already reserved for TOD. That was hard enough to get the wife to agree on. The Friday off of TOD is restricted to wife only events.
The Euro crowd has a good following. Couldn't one of them become a CM and run a mirror event during Euro-friendly time?
As far as winging goes, I would personally like to see the same type of KOTH event for wingman pairs. Not a 2-v-2 engagement, but an entire arena full of wing pairs. Last wing pair (or single member) flying wins.
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Oh yeah, one with a lid. Some guys did get the "this is a stadium and I'm going to watch the action till its almost over then swoop in and win this thing from these *uc**ing stoopid dweebs" attitude that a lid would perhaps stop.
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I'd rather not see a prize.
With the amount of nitpicking going on for nothing more than bragging rights, I'd log out in a heartbeat if the whining worthy of a prize took place.
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Originally posted by hblair
What we need in the KOTH is a No Handle(only distance) icon setting available to the CM. This would make the event a freeaking blast. Winging would be too much trouble. I hope HT makes this setting (or something similar) available to the CM's for this event.
The icon off setting would fix this. I know they can do that.
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No they can't do that. Only short and long icon settings are currently available to CM's.
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Originally posted by Fatty
I'd rather not see a prize.
With the amount of nitpicking going on for nothing more than bragging rights, I'd log out in a heartbeat if the whining worthy of a prize took place.
Good point Fatty
for an altitude cap.. just put AA guns at the ceiling with instant respawn if shot. The guns can be positioned anywhere, even floating in mid air.
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Alt cap... yeah... what ya *can* do is create a you're-off-to-OZ wind layer up there. Pokie designed a WW map for us with walls that solved the outtabounders. I'm not keeping up with KOTH (except for flying in last Friday), but that stuff is fixable. Icons, like hblair says, are not.
For alt-grabbers and wingmen and such, I wish there were more options to us CMs other than the eject command. It's so controversial. What I'd like to be able to do is point my mouse at a plane and have it explode. And then I'd act all innocent... and ask about their connection, or perhaps suggest they buy more RAM.
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"Why is KOTH not as popular here as it once was in Air Warrior?"
I never liked it in AW.... but for me it goes back to that simmers-gamer thing. KOTH's is a game thing, and i see little point to it.
CAV
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For one thing when they canceled Wild Wed. I never heard about the new KOTH until TODAY!
makes it kinda hard to attend d'oh
(BTW I attended and won a few WW's)
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Originally posted by lazs2
tumor.. no i didn't try it. I don't care if people were told to "get back in the fight". They should have a small area and an alt cap. referee should disqualify anyone out of bounds...
lazs
They do have an alt cap.
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Originally posted by hblair
No they can't do that. Only short and long icon settings are currently available to CM's.
I didnt mean yall hblair, I meant the game is capable of it.
If you can turn off your own icons I know that it can be done.
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There is a Koth??? I’ve never seen any promotions for this!! I won’t win, but I’m game!
Just a completely unqualified suggestion: Use a very small island as the “arena” and souround it with hostile fleets. The ack should keep people from running too far. Ceiling disqualifier of perhaps 5000 ft ? The island should have rough terrain, and a small mountain for people to play with. Like I said, just ignore this completely unqualified advice. ;)
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X2Lee, I guess you mean the icon adjustment is codable? I agree, HT is the codin' fool. Do it HT! :)
Amazing to me the number of these guys who read this board regularly and didn't even know there's a KOTH in Aces High. Apparently the word's not getting out there.
For those who do not know, There is a horrible wind set up at a certain altitude to keep people from climbing too high. The arena has walls around the KOTH area to keep people in the fight.
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What happens if you hit the "wall"?
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Originally posted by hblair
What we need in the KOTH is a No Handle(only distance) icon setting available to the CM. This would make the event a freeaking blast. Winging would be too much trouble. I hope HT makes this setting (or something similar) available to the CM's for this event.
Now THAT is a great idea
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Why not use the rumble terrain?
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The wall is a near-vertical mountainside terrain. You die if you hit it.
The WW terrain is similar to the rumble terrain, except it only has one "chamber". There are about 6-8 takeoff fields evenly spaced around the circular "chamber that are about halfway up the wall.
The terrain works well with the event.
IMO, we just need more promotion of it and possibly more commitment to it by the one CM who's in charge of running it.
I think the following things would help the event immensely:
A. PROMOTION Submit a banner to HTC to run at the top of this BBS for 2-3 days before KOTH runs each month.
B. WEB PAGE We need a web page promoting this event that has a table of months with who won each month and a link to the AAR put up by the host CM. (veery simple webpage that I would be happy to write up myself) The webpage should notate which pilots have one multiple KOTH's. If they win 3 or so they get a medal, etc.
C. AFTER ACTION REPORTS by the host CM. These things add/develop interest in these events. The last snapshot AAR I wrote had about 100 views last time I checked. People like to read a detailed account of an event they played a part in. It's interesting to them to read about how theirs, or their squaddies skills made a difference in an event.
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tumor.. if they have an alt cap then is a person disqulified if they exceed it?
midnight said..."As far as winging goes, I would personally like to see the same type of KOTH event for wingman pairs. Not a 2-v-2 engagement, but an entire arena full of wing pairs. Last wing pair (or single member) flying wins."
Unlike midnight I don't mind agreeing with anyone who has a good idea.... his idea is a good one. Add his idea to a kill minimum and absolute alt cap and you might have something.
lazs
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Here's (http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/hblair/koth.html) a page I whipped here at work. I guess I just volunteered to be the webpage guy. Does anyone have any info on past koth winners? What plane did KOOL choose for next month? I'll work on this page some more and make it useful.
Anything to add Aub?
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is hblair in charge of the KOTH? If he's not he should be.
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No Hornet, that's not what I want, but thanks for the vote of confidence. I'd just like to see there be 50+ in KOTH on a regular basis. :)
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Here is some KOTH news from me...
I have been rotating terrains, trying to test them out, see which does the best. I've used the DA arena, that was too big. I didn't particularly care for the WW terrain. Last week, I used the rumble terrain. That seemed to be a better fit, being smaller (some say too small) and the air starts.
There is an alt-cap. Do I disqualify people? I will. I like to give warnings first. I'm not the type of guy that says 'Hey lazs, your .001 k over the alt-limit, good bye.' After repeated warnings, someone does not comply, they get the boot. Last week I booted one person, half-way to booting a second because they failed to read my MOTD and treated it as a 'free-for-all'. Thats not nice, so I wasn't nice after a couple warnings.
Prizes. I am currently debating prizes. AW participants may remember CH being involved and giving out so monthly prizes to winners. I may bring that to AH, if I can get a reasonable amount of people to commit. This event has been growing monthly, which is GREAT! I'd like to see the numbers at my personal level (50+ for three months) before I will consider prizes.
And now, for more about me. I have been mundo-busy in real life lately. That's no excuse, however. has the event suffered? Yes. Should I be trying harder to make the event succeed? Yes. Theres so many in the community thats been making this event work past few months, and they deserve thanks. HB, BigMax, Newman, IceMAW, Tumor, WldThing, others I can't remember right now... Have been making this event SURVIVE! When my real life calms down, I will make KOTH into what it should be.
Hey HB, email me at alieneagle69@hotmail.com
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Thanks for replying Aub. I sent an email but it bounced. That the correct addy?
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I read about the KOTH and realized that people with handles that are popularly hated will be singled out, people will wing, people will hang to the back and not stay in, people will break the alt cap.
so basically I didn't feel like going in somewhere knowing I'd come out feeling like it was a disorganized uncontrolled CF.
I'd rather have some fun with the very limited time that I can fly now...so I do TOD's only.
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Kanth, you really should fly the event before making too many predicitions. :)
Aub, email bouncing, got another addy?
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You guys need to promote it. From viewing the other posts, that is very clear. I never know when its being held either. Knowing who won and who was in attendance at a KOTH is great information for those that could not make it.
There was always a large discussion of KOTH the week of the event in AW. I had always sent out a "Results" email after each event, and then one week prior to the next KOTH, I would always send out a "Reminder" email. Always keep in mind that people love to see their name in writing; what matches they won, most improved perfomance, close-but-no-cigar flying, funny moments, etc.
Also, our webpage on http://www.327th.com was always up to date with the latest winner. People knew when it was going to be held and if interested, wanted to attend. Of course in AW this was mostly within the FR crowd.
When I got CH Products to sponsor the KOTH in AW, it was a great time for us. Not because there were prizes, but everyone knew this had now become bigger than ever. If you won a KOTH, or even just a match, people at CH and outside of AW were hearing about this as well. IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE BRAGGING RIGHTS. That is why I tried to win it ... nothing more.
On that note, I see your concerns with winging and the desire to elliminate everyone's handles during the matches. Fortunately for the KOTH we had in AW, winging was little to no problem for us. Sure it happened, but when it did, everyone came down on them ... and hard! The ruling body for each event was the KOTHers themselves. But the benefits from knowing the guy (or gal) you are about to engage with, especially when it gets down to the last 6 or so players, is the ultimate thrill and challenge. To know whether this player has two wins already and if they shoot you down its all over ... it puts your heart in your throat!
Yes, I hosted the events, and I guess when it came down to it, I probably had final say with a decision. But overwhelmingly for every occasion that a decison had to be made ... it was made BY THE PLAYERS. I simply voiced that decision once everyone spoke their peace. I found it very distressing at the last KOTH I attended in AH, that a CM made the decisions based on "I'm a CM and so my call stands".
The honor of the event begins and ends with its players. The event needs to be established for them to act in the benefit of the KOTH, not personal gain. If you don't have that ... you don't have KOTH.
I'd like to see KOTH really take off in AH. And I understand that the event will inevitably be different than the AW days. But the way KOTH was run in AW is a winning formula, use it.
Good luck! (and HAVE FUN!)
STICK
AW KOTH HOST
http://www.327th.com
hblair if you want to discuss this in more detail, email me at STICK@327th.com.
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Nice post Stick. Excellent suggestions. Thanks for the info.
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Hiyas Stick!
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Stick!!!...
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Hiya's Seeker & BEEF! Good to see you guys!
STICK
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Hiya's Seeker & BEEF! Good to see you guys are still around!!
STICK
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hblair, one other thing. Think about a "2002 Grand Championship KOTH". The only eligible participants are this year's KOTH winners. It was great to see the best-of-the-best go at it. And we allowed other people to view the matches from the ground.
We even had an "observer" that filmed each match.
Even if you don't have a full year under AH KOTH, its good promotional stuff.
Just a thought,
STICK
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This is the largest single problem with all AH events. I just heard about King of the Hill on the MA chat and no one could even explain it to me when I asked "what is it?" several weeks ago. I think the Message of the Day idea is great, put adverts in a box! Also, the icon setting needs to be a variable thing. For people with low graphics resolution, (me, too cheap to buy new vid card), it would make shooting very difficult though. There are Pros and Cons to everything! Any more thoughts?
Jason
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Give the winner a 263 in the MA for 2 hrs :)
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I only happened to check event anouncements forum that day, was in the mood for a TOD or somethin so I decided to give it a try.
The one thing that would REALLY make it better is allow bombers to be flown (Or at least fighter-bombers)!!!!!!!!
I shot down 6 guys just to get to pick the val and ya wouldnt let me choose it :( !!!!
Cmon think of how fun it'd be to have a Val, Lancaster, or SBD fight!
Allso, it'd be cool if u could host it weekly, on a day that there are no TOD's.
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The ONLY reason we didn't allow bombers, or even fighter bombers, in AW was because you couldn't get those planes in duel mode.
May not be a bad idea to allow fighter bombers in AH. Or at least give it a try.
FWIW,
STICK
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Is it (would it be) possible to get HTC to stick a MOTD up for people logging into the MA with KOTH info (and TOD/SS/CAP etc). I've missed lots of events I wouln't have had I had notice like this. I'd say the overwhelming majority of MA'rs seldome visit this board.
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Tumor, I bet skuzzy would just clamor to do that for us. Seeings how skuzzy is a bang up fella and always looking out for us villagers interests. How bout it skuzz? (or anybody else :))
Skuzzy! Skuzzy! Skuzzy! Skuzzy! ......
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Seriously, having a brief MOTD with a few lines telling of events of the day would probably help attendance immensely.