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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: vorticon on October 17, 2002, 01:30:52 PM
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yet another whine but a new one...
i feel that the hth is completely ignored. ma flyers naver show up there (the ones that do always love it more than ma tho) if they arnt in ma they arnt playing ...to be continued
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well yeah if we're gonna spend the money to play there, we're certainly gonna use what we have
hth is mostly full of screwed up settings and short-fused hosts who boot fliers who don't fly their way. not my style
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Originally posted by moose
well yeah if we're gonna spend the money to play there, we're certainly gonna use what we have
hth is mostly full of screwed up settings and short-fused hosts who boot fliers who don't fly their way. not my style
i agree.
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not only is this another thread i'm not going to read, it's also about a subject that i care deeply about.
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I don't ignore you because you fly in H2H, I ignore you because you're Canadian.
SOB
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H2H crowd, are they like peasants? Who let them in this part of the the BBS?
Begone little people. Go back to tending your livestock!
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I went there a while back and was promptly booted after shooting down the host. Have yet to find a reason to venture back there.
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Bah, You gotta pay your $15 a month for the right to whine.
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Why should we pay attention to a group of players who are parasites on the real, paying, customer base?
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what is this h2h I keep hearing of. I never see any mention of it at the arena selection menu.
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Originally posted by vorticon
yet another whine but a new one...
i feel that the hth is completely ignored. ma flyers naver show up there (the ones that do always love it more than ma tho) if they arnt in ma they arnt playing ...to be continued
What do you want for free?
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Personaly I fly there to practise for the big game. You know the BIG GAME. See you MA guys in a few months. :D
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yes well how can you pass jugment if you have never been in it.
and as for funkedup you should pay attention to us because we have opinions on the game as much as anyone. and i want nothing for free im glad i have what i have and im going to stick to it im just a little annoyed that we are treated like toejam by the players of MA. i dare you to just come and play hth for 1 hour and see what you think rather than sitting on your big high horse...as for the people leaving when pizza map is up or night is on why dont they just see what hth has while they have nothing better to do other than to post whines on the boards about how you hate pizza map la7 night panzers damage model etc etc.
you people rarely get a chance to see some of the beutiful maps made by the people.
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You are treated like sheet because you are a moocher!
Played H2H, wasn't impressed- in fact was very disapointed, went back to playing arena style.
Now get outta here freeloader.
-SW
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how long ago did you play hth and in WHAT arena.
i flew MA recently and i was not impressed by the amount of whining and BS that went on in there so i went bac kto "freeloading"
at least in hth if someone is breaking one of our many many rules (it is an amazingly structured place) or if someone is cursing or whining about toejam the host has the host just gives em da boot and makes room for the REAL players
we also have a suprising amount of good players
the calling of the b26 the "b* of the skys* guess who that is
nod2000
he flys hth.
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Vorticon, are you a paying member? If you are, say so and you'll nip half the negative responses here in the bud.
Also, how do you think we can take H2H seriously if the host operators do dumb things like boot people who can shoot them down? For better or for worse, in the MA we are all equals, differing only in skills & popularity.
(PS, if you're NOT a paying member, you might want to rethink the likelihood of getting a sympathetic ear to the plight of the H2H'ers)
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I pay to play in the MA, I don't play to get booted because some anal twit got his bellybutton whooped in a dogfight while he was in a better abled plane and I was in a lesser abled plane.
You want people to play H2H? Make it attractive. It ain't, unless you are a freeloading mooch.
-SW
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wow wow wow guess what anyone who kicks someone for shooting them down is a bad host and soon find that the good players avoid them. the good hosts (bwidow roscoroo nod2000 (on occasion) saburoS shuffler and zapkin and spazzz) only kick people for
1) whining there arses off about the more realistic settings
2) swearing
3) breaking some of our rules (no vulching on ffa no cheap shots etc)
and you get to know people a lot better due to the small arenas so you can pick out the dweebs and kiddies pretty darn quick
and i will be a paying customer as soon as i decide to get a job
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> and i will be a paying customer as soon as i decide to get a job
I only wish my high school debates were this easy. I don't even have to strengthen my argument, I just point to something someone says and the argument is made for me.
What glory technology hath wrought!
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Originally posted by vorticon
and i will be a paying customer as soon as i decide to get a job
Your mom and dad won't raise your allowance?
Ack-Ack
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If I wanted to play H2H, I'd use Il2 for that.
I don't wanna play H2H, hence I pay a subscription rate for access to the arenas.
-SW
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vorticon h2h players shouldnt even be allowed to post in the BBS. Go back to your den of tards called h2h and cry yourself to sleep in there.
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WOW animal that was COMPLETLY uncalled for. i have as much a right to post as anyone.
as for my den of tards wellllll...i just got back from a rather nice sortie in wich i a "tard" who flys with a mouse got several kills
you guys can fly how you like thats not a problem what i dont like is us being completly ignored by the MA players...maybe i should just shutup and knock off the thread all im getting is hate because i think that we of the hth are being a little ignored.
guess what 90% of hth players like it so much they go MA eventually after the hth wears thin. the entire idea behind free plays is that the players will get to like the game but want more so decide to pay...its kind of like shareware or demos only its a full game with a large society.
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Well I think a lot of new subscribers come from the hth trial, but after numorous bad experiences there I've given up on flying there
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Pony up the bucks, or crawl back to mooch land.
-SW
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i do not mooch
and yes most people do have bad experiences after going into the wrong arenas
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Moooooooooccccchhhhherrrrr
-SW
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vortardicon,
Those of us who play in the MA do not ignore HTH people. If you don't believe this, please talk to ArtLaws if they ever let him off the thorazine drip. He will tell you that we do pay attention to you guys sometimes.
Now, if you really are playing HTH to figure out if you like the game enough do one of the following:
1) get a job at McDonalds
2) get a paper route
3) collect some aluminum cans from the local fraternity
4) ask your parents for a loan
so that you can actually afford to pay the $15 and join the rest of us, good. I hope you do join us. Then you will understand what we are talking about.
If, however, you are only playing HTH because you are too cheap to pay 50 cents a day, please do me a favor. Don't squeak about us not paying attention to the thinly veiled and asinine attempts at showing that we do indeed have a superiority complex concerning you guys. We know we do.
And, with that, I repeat what my friend and compatriot Animal said:
Go back to your den of tards called h2h and cry yourself to sleep in there.
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HTH can be fun at occasions... most hosts are the kind that would boot you if you shoot them down though... that's why I stick to the MA and my squad (and events, ofcourse!)
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I go into H2H every so often (usually when it's nightime in AH/ no fights in pizza map).
It's very similar to shooting down AI in MS CFS, the majority fly in nice gentle curves for you to shoot them down.:D Couple of days ago i got 17 kills in the spit IX and then landed with normal ammo load (ran outta 20mm so carried on with .50cal)
Thankyou H2H moochers, i enjoy killing 'tards cause it makes me feel superior.:D
P.S. why do i get the feeling i'll be booted on sight from now on.:)
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I dunno...
I don't think HTC created the H2H element of AH out of charity. It makes a certain amount of sense to have this there in the hopes that H2Her's migrate into the MA. Which they do. So it then makes sense that there are players actually *flying* H2H for this whole thing to work.
I'm at a loss to figure out what kinda input H2Her's can give here, and what kinda attention they expect to be given... but at the same time this animosity towards them is kinda missing the bigger picture. They're a neccessary part of that migration path and I think it's a good thing for us MA flyers in the long run.
By calling them mooches and leechers, ya make it sound like they're taking advantage of HTC. If that were the case, why did HTC build it?
I reckon there may be a bit of kneejerk anti-freehost sentiment at play here... This is completely different.
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Im a Host and the majorty of us H2Hers are friends, we all look
towards NEWU's as a possible flying mate,
we help these fellas more than some of the MA'ers.
And if you fly with me and dont do what i say IE:Vulch or Shoot
down a certain person: after repeatedly told to stop of course ill
become hot headed who wouldnt?
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yah i'm Nod:) and ppl should respect H2H to some extent because i would say 90% of ppl fly this game because of there love of WWII fighters and bombers and H2H ppl are no diffrent.......u call us moochers but mabey u don't understand alot of our situation.......i've got a perfectly good reason y not to pay 15 bucks a month....... i've got a 91 camaro that had a 502 bigblock but i am replacing it with a 302 chevy small block and yah i only got just below 1.5 gallons to the gallon with the 502 but it's reached 165 in kansas :D and along with that i am trying to save up to get laser eye surgery cuz i have been told that within the next 5 - 10 years i have a strong possibility of compleatly being blind if i don't get this done.........and i am being dead serious i don't think that i should really pay that 15 bucks lose out on my car and lose out on th chance of sight cuz $15x12monthsx5years equals 900 bucks and thats 900 bucks closer to saving 2 things that are precous to me..........and make fun of me if u will but i could care less
lol i feel like i just gave a "I Have a dream" speech:D
but truthfully i will be able to smile about hittin 165 in kansas more then a single fight in the MA........
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oh yea and for those of u who don't know much about cars a good well kept and highly modified 502 big block equals about 850HP
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humm, sure is a lot of chests puffing up and feathers flying on this one. I see how subscribers can be a bit fired up about free play. I fly MA, I venture to H2H every now and then. H2H folk come up with some neat maps, and they do have some good fliers and MA some awsome fliers. My point is ummm, I donno, I have no point....
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Originally posted by vorticon
as for funkedup you should pay attention to us because we have opinions we are treated like toejam by the players of MA. i dare you to just come and play hth for 1 hour and see what you think rather than sitting on your big high horse...
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Yeah Funked. I double dog dare ya! (oops forgive my obvious breach of protocol by jumping past double dare you and going straight to double dog dare you)
I do have one question for Vorticon...
Doesn't the horse have to be big in order that one is high when seated upon it?
Somehow it just seems a bit pointless to sit upon a small, low horse. It couldn't be very fast, I mean after all it's running on short, stumpy legs, dragging it's belly across shrubbery and such, I should think that alone would most certainly slow it considerably.
And it seems apparent that one would not be able to see very far while sitting upon such a low slung animal.
Nor should I think would one have any sense of nobility when perched knees to chin upon said small horse.
I'm further inclined to believe one's balance would be severely diminished while perched in the above described manner, I can only imagine that one good bounce would easily un-ass said rider from the accordingly reduced sized saddle such a steed would naturally require.
Hence, I have concluded though deduction that "big" is redundent when describing a "high horse".
Which reminds me...
What do you call a dog with no legs?
Nothing, it's not going to come anyway.
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I will pay the H2H leeches $15 a month to shut the heck up.
Just call 1-800-KIZ-MIAZ and ask for Hugh Jass.
And I ate the horse.
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1st, let me say.... I think the way the majority of the MAiners who have replied have done so in a rather impolite way, not that I suppose it is really any of my business....
But then, I would like to add, that this must be one of the biggest whines I have come across in quite some time. What kind of attention do the H2H players want? What do they seek for their dollar? (oops, I suppose that was uncalled for too) Seriously, state what you want. Perhaps if it has merit and affects more than the H2H players it may get implemented. I think it should be called to your attention Vorticon, that HiTech has bills that must be paid as he is running a business. (Sort of like a paper route, but a bit more complicated) He must, I imagine, endeavor to 1st please the current subscribers, they pay his salary, as well as the gas for that cool new airplane of his. (I think he would've been far happier with a Sorrel Hiperbipe, but that is for another thread).
I can tell you, that as a paying member of AH, I never pay any attention to the H2H game, as I have no reason to. I enjoy what I do in the MAin, and axiously await each new update. If, HT were to suddenly shift his resources to the free portion of the game, he would seriously jeapordize his business.
Again, I have no animosity towards the H2H gamers, and have no doubt that many of them could more than hand me my hat. Just don't come here whineing that you get no attention.
Mudshark...............
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I'm just bustin' vort's balls.. altho you all are a bunch of moochers...
-SW
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Originally posted by Nash
I dunno...
I don't think HTC created the H2H element of AH out of charity. It makes a certain amount of sense to have this there in the hopes that H2Her's migrate into the MA. Which they do. So it then makes sense that there are players actually *flying* H2H for this whole thing to work.
I'm at a loss to figure out what kinda input H2Her's can give here, and what kinda attention they expect to be given... but at the same time this animosity towards them is kinda missing the bigger picture. They're a neccessary part of that migration path and I think it's a good thing for us MA flyers in the long run.
By calling them mooches and leechers, ya make it sound like they're taking advantage of HTC. If that were the case, why did HTC build it?
I reckon there may be a bit of kneejerk anti-freehost sentiment at play here... This is completely different.
My thoughts exactly, Nash. IMHO, the HTH guys are welcome here. Still... you guys need to get an account and come play with us in the big room. :)
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
I'm just bustin' vort's balls.. altho you all are a bunch of moochers...
-SW
Same here. I can't resist a juicy target.
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Originally posted by Nash
blah blah blay, eh, hoser!
Oh brother, another one pipes in! :p
SOB
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Vort... aren't you a girl?
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IMO HTC can give the H2H players whatever they want, as long as it doesn't take them away from giving the subscribers the service they are paying for. ;)
I played H2H for a little while when I cancelled my subscription for a couple of months. I much preferred the MA so I forked out my money again.
If any H2H players want to join us in the MA then feel free, just don't whine if I choose not to join you in the H2H rooms or pay attention to the posturing that seems to go hand-in-hand with the H2H service...
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169,959 characters so far....
why?
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Originally posted by Nash
I dunno...
I don't think HTC created the H2H element of AH out of charity. It makes a certain amount of sense to have this there in the hopes that H2Her's migrate into the MA. Which they do. So it then makes sense that there are players actually *flying* H2H for this whole thing to work.
I'm at a loss to figure out what kinda input H2Her's can give here, and what kinda attention they expect to be given... but at the same time this animosity towards them is kinda missing the bigger picture. They're a neccessary part of that migration path and I think it's a good thing for us MA flyers in the long run.
By calling them mooches and leechers, ya make it sound like they're taking advantage of HTC. If that were the case, why did HTC build it?
I reckon there may be a bit of kneejerk anti-freehost sentiment at play here... This is completely different.
Nash put it right.
Hmmm, I pay my 15$ per month so I can tell my wishes to the HTC about h2h host Icon and Trackers settings, right?
BTW
Aces high is some kind ego booster for some people?
Get a life!
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what's hth?
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OT: "169,959 characters so far...." - Molloch
Hey, you make that up or do you have some kinda program that counts characters on a page? I have this girl who does copy for me and... well I can't explain it... but if I had a way of pointing out the characters per page I could have a riot at the office tomorrow. You got a link to something?
Ok back on topic... Uhm... Piss off you damn freeloaders! :D
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microsoft is good
Piss off you damn freeloaders!
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Can't believe I read this whole post!
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Blame Canada SOB.
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I host H2H AND I pay my $15.00/month.
I can't play MA and host H2H at the same time.
I keep the settings close to MA.
I like the idea of great players from other sims (AW and WB) to be able to fly and practice AH w/out pressure and without getting hassled.
Many former nonsubscribers now subscribe and play MA.
I never boot anyone because they shot me down. I enjoy the challenge of playing against better players.
I will boot players for vulching and vulgarity. No tolerance for them.
Regards,
SaburoS
PS. There are great players in MA and H2H, IMHO.
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Originally posted by vorticon
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and i will be a paying customer as soon as i decide to get a job
Since you "want nothing for free" you should not play for free.
On the other hand if you DO want something for free, dont get a job and continue to fly for free. Its your decision but dont overload us with yer BS. Lots of us can see thro it.
:eek:
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Certainly some people are being harsh on H2H players. I believe AcesHigh is a global game. Some people like me come from small towns in some remote part of the world. Because of weak and laggy connections we never move on to MA. I do have a fast connection but there is still some lag. Its also a fact that regardless of where you come from the membership fee is same. For American people $15 may not be much but its quite a lot for some other countries like India. I can rent a two bed home in my place for that kind of money.
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a naturaly asperated 850hp 502 chevy big block would be useless on the street. 650-700 hp is pushing it. An 850 hp big block would have 20k worth of parts in it...
with that money you could build a streetable, dependable 383 small block (350 with a 400 crank) of around 400 hp and have enough left over for eye surgury and a lifetime subscription to AH plus make a sustantial down payment on a home in kansas.
lazs
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ok i guess i stated things wrong at first basicly i want to forget the original posts...
what i want is the h2h to stop being thought of as a den of tards...i want it to be thought of as another place to fly when the whiney MA'ers have there "hated" night time and pizza map come on...hate to see it at nighttime on pizza map...
this was not meant to be a whine i just dont like being reffered to as a freeloader and a tard...
beleive me we in the h2h know tards...for about 5 seconds then we boot em and get them blocked...we have prolly dealt with more real tards than the MA
and as i have already said we do play an important part in the aces high community...
heres what we do before we send em to the MA
1. clean up there mouths
2. give em a sense of good form (never will a MAer who was trained in the hth killsteal,vulch (including landing) or start cursing on channel one when someone shoots em down)
3. train em for the dogfights
4. train them what the really good planes are (that way they dont blow 200 perks or whatever on a me262...not worth it as we of the hth know the 262 is basicly the most pathetic plane ever)
5. get rid of the whiney attitude
i just want some respect for what we do t oremove the real tards and clean up people before sending them off to MA thats it...i also want to see some MA players in hth on occasion with REAl names not some newu*** name
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Well Vorticon ...
With this post ... you extended ... attempted a nice reversal ... but your angle-of-attack sucked.
You are asking for all of the ... and I quote ... "whiney MA'ers" who don't like flying at night, nor like the Pizza map to come "fly H2H"
This audience will, in a very short time, violate rules 1, 2 and 5, and therefore be booted and blocked ... so whats the sense ? Logic is all wrong.
Maybe you should of said ... (note: I left out any derogatory adjectives)
For all you MA'ers who don't enjoy flying at night, nor enjoy the Pizza map, come try my H2H arena, you just might like it as another alternative.
Here are the objectives of my arena ...
1) sfdf
2) dfdfdfd
3) dfdfd
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Here are the rules of my arena ...
1) asdasda
2) adfadfas
3) dfsdfsdf
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I have ventured into the H2H area, but have no clue as to the objectives of these arenas, nor the specialized rules that each HOST may impose. Can you shed some light on these points ?
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i would do that laz but that engine ain't mine to sell..........its my grandfathers work of art i would never sell that pluss my uncle owns the eng still 502 cubic inches is just to beautiful to put a price on.............
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well, hell. send all of your HtH trained guys to Bish or Rook. I don't want any new Knights that won't vulch! :p
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thank you for that nice post slapshot...much better than some
most games in hth are either
a) ffa wich is basicly like a 1 team 8 person furball
b) team games with 4 on 4 where basicly we base take and furball a bit
c) duels...wich are rare and aer basicly dueling arenas
and as foryou nifty...we do allow vulching in team games...only if your doing something and dont want them to up hwile you remove there hangers
hth is also full of some rather nice player made maps that cant make it inot ct because there wrong for it
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I don't think that whether you pay for this game, or whether you play it at all, matters on this BBS. You don't need an AH accout to create an account here. I am a H2H player, and am quite satisfied with it, though sometimes I wish I could fly in the main arena and have plenty of victims to choose from.
But for my lack of spare time and my meager financial resources, I would definitely pay for a subscription as I think it is definitely worth it.
As for H2H players being ignored, well, my latest post in 'Aircraft and Vehicles' has 85 replies by now, even though few are flattering :) I definitely don't feel ignored.
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mealy mouthed, gay-ray freeloadin maggot-children of retarded losers... umm; fer you slow folks, that would be the H2H hosts that seem to think that killin a plane that ain't reached 35k is 'vulching'... lemme explain a few of the finer points of combat in armed aircraft.
Killing parked planes is vultching. If the props turnin or the wheels are rollin, the guys a target.
Getting a kill on a level playing field is called a Duel. We already have a dueling arena.
A GOOD kill is one in which your adversary had no chance at all. None. Zip. Gettin the best kill in the game should not be a reason for bootin a guy.
If an H2H player is hosting a tennis match, your on the wrong fediddlein server.
FFA's are fun.. carnage is kewl. Nobody ever went to the indy 500 to watch 50 cars go around a 1 mile circle 500 times. They came to see carnage. We come to fly this game for carnage. If your game ain't about carnage, then dammit, get a net and play freakin tennis.
If your a lil Hirohito or Mussolini and yer really into power and lording it over your subject players, then apparently H2H is your game. Please don't be upset if we ignore you. It's ok if your upset if we insult you, after all, thats how we play OUR game.
Andl lastly, we recognize the fact that you mooching freeloading panzies in your tennis shorts are very necessary.. not unlike dirt is necessary. We all gotta walk on something.
Now, begone; you snivilling sons of frenchmen!
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The punctuation and capitalization modules on vorticon's browser must have a monthly charge or something.
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nod2000... you could sell the 200mph wheels and tires that you used to make your 168 mph run and have enough for the eye surgery and a years subscription to AH. You won't be needing them with the 302 motor. Also.... any trans and rear end that could stand up to 850 hp would be worth 4 or 5 thousand dollars so you could sell them and put in a th 350 and ten bolt rear... I recon you could scrape up 6-7 thousand by selling those items.
lazs
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I agree with Saburo
We setup HTH a few times just so we can fly without being interrupted and train.. Why not use the tools that are given to us..
T0J0
Originally posted by SaburoS
I host H2H AND I pay my $15.00/month.
I can't play MA and host H2H at the same time.
I keep the settings close to MA.
I like the idea of great players from other sims (AW and WB) to be able to fly and practice AH w/out pressure and without getting hassled.
Many former nonsubscribers now subscribe and play MA.
I never boot anyone because they shot me down. I enjoy the challenge of playing against better players.
I will boot players for vulching and vulgarity. No tolerance for them.
Regards,
SaburoS
PS. There are great players in MA and H2H, IMHO.
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Originally posted by vorticon
heres what we do before we send em to the MA
4. train them what the really good planes are (that way they dont blow 200 perks or whatever on a me262...not worth it as we of the hth know the 262 is basicly the most pathetic plane ever)
Me262 is a sweet ride, had a few 11 kill runs in it earlier this week. But then I've always believed it's the pilot and not that plane that makes a plane good.
Oh...and H2H is a Den of 'Tards.
Ack-Ack
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WB HTH was my very first experience in any kind of online arial competition. It was an eye opener that spiked my appetite for more. That was about 6 years ago. I've been paying to play ever since. I think HTH has it's place. There are those that can't afford to pay the $15 and it does give someone a bit of the taste of what can be had by being a full subscriber.
Everyone has an opinion on the sim/game. Though I beleive HTC should cater to their paying customers I certainly see nothing wrong with someone who only flys HTH expressing their opinion.
BTW Hang, the Indy track is 2 miles long :) I do prefer to watch a race, NASCAR, INDY, CART, F1, or any other where there are no accidents and only good close competition.
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Originally posted by Animal
vorticon h2h players shouldnt even be allowed to post in the BBS. Go back to your den of tards called h2h and cry yourself to sleep in there.
Animal, I can`t believe YOU said that. Why should hth players not be allowed to post here? Don`t you think that by being a part of this forum they would feel more comfortable with being a part of a "community" and therefore make the transition to being a paying customer?
Just my opinion I guess. Maybe I`ll get a tongue lashing for posting here. I`ve been a lurker until now, afraid to post because of so many pewwrsonal attacks by certain individuals here.
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Originally posted by TherealOtto
Animal, I can`t believe YOU said that. Why should hth players not be allowed to post here? Don`t you think that by being a part of this forum they would feel more comfortable with being a part of a "community" and therefore make the transition to being a paying customer?
Just my opinion I guess. Maybe I`ll get a tongue lashing for posting here. I`ve been a lurker until now, afraid to post because of so many pewwrsonal attacks by certain individuals here.
I think you've confused the REAL Animal with the above AH Animal.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by akak
I think you've confused the REAL Animal with the above AH Animal.
Ack-Ack
Very likely. My bad.