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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MAC on October 18, 2002, 02:58:24 AM

Title: For Superfly
Post by: MAC on October 18, 2002, 02:58:24 AM
Nice work on the P51.  

May we please someday see a remodel of  the Corsairs and their OCTAGONAL fuselage?  

Thanks!

:D
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Puck on October 18, 2002, 07:54:42 AM
If you think the F4U is the only one with a six-sided fuselage you're not paying attention.

Peel the pretty skins off these beasts, set the lighting right, and you just might be shocked at how blocky they are.  Nate and Super have done a very good job camoflaging the low poly count in the models.

From what Super said I don't think they're increasing the poly count, so the model is the same.  They're just making the skins better.  

Making the cylinders 8 (or 12, or 24) sided would require more power to render them, which would drop frame rate, which would inspire a wailing and gnashing of teeth and threats to drop acounts of biblical proportions.  :D
Title: For Superfly
Post by: AcId on October 18, 2002, 08:03:54 AM
SUPAaaaaaaaFLYYYYyyyy

(Makes me think of the Joe-Cartoon "Fly episodes")

Thats a very nice looking skin, the perception is your skills are always improving, as each consecutive skin seems to get better and better.

SUPA needs a raise!! and a pat on the back! and a thank you! and a....




Also noticed the lighting effects on the MG's in the first shot....vera perdie :D
Title: For Superfly
Post by: -sudz- on October 18, 2002, 09:15:33 AM
Yepsir!  Excellent work, SF :)

-sudz
Title: For Superfly
Post by: jonnyb on October 18, 2002, 09:40:55 AM
From both the film that was posted a little while ago, and the new screenshots of the pony, it appears that the muzzle flash effects are now rendered as separate light sources.  Is this true?
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Ripsnort on October 18, 2002, 09:51:34 AM
With UTMOST respect to Superfly and his obviously "above avg" talent (I would say Excellent, but I've not seen them do the P61, which IMO takes a skilled artist ;) )  I personally cannot detect any difference between the two pics of the P51 on HTC's website under Aircraft, and the new pic, other than the little jagged edges (we'd call those "descretization/sag and step") and the muzzle flash.  Any other significant differences that I'm missing here?
Title: For Superfly
Post by: popeye on October 18, 2002, 10:05:32 AM
I think the lighting effect is the new thing.  Although I never thought I cared about eye candy, I think there is a lot of "immersion" potential in this new lighting effect.  I REALLY like the external sounds effect that we got a while ago, and multiple light sources may be just as cool.  I just hope it doesn't hurt frame rates too much.
Title: For Superfly
Post by: LePaul on October 18, 2002, 10:07:14 AM
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Originally posted by popeye
I think the lighting effect is the new thing.  Although I never thought I cared about eye candy, I think there is a lot of "immersion" potential in this new lighting effect.  I REALLY like the external sounds effect that we got a while ago, and multiple light sources may be just as cool.  I just hope it doesn't hurt frame rates too much.


Oh c'mon Rip, the only part of the Mustang we'll see is the tail since they ALWAYS run   :D

Just Kidding!!  

Nice work, Superfly...can we have spinning fan blades in the jets next...or visible jet exahust (smoke, light bend from heat of exhaust, etc)
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Pongo on October 18, 2002, 10:13:26 AM
Rip
Far more suble panel lines, and differnt tones to the panels to highlight them.
Far better silver colour
the detail in the skin is more subtle and there for more accurate.
The view out onto the wing will not have that white plank look.
Thats just from what I noticed with out looking back
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Zigrat on October 18, 2002, 10:29:53 AM
very nice. a mustang that does not look like bellybutton ;)
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Ripsnort on October 18, 2002, 10:53:43 AM
I'll take your word for it Pongo.

Here they are, side by side:

Old:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/Aircraft/p51d_1.gif)

New:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/Aircraft/p51d2_2.jpg)
Title: You guys have it all wrong.
Post by: jbroey3 on October 18, 2002, 12:00:01 PM
I dont think you people understand :)  

You see Superfly has been able to create skins like this the Entire Time. The new 51 Skin is not a result of a sudden "aquired" amount of more skill.

Those of us who are artists, already have the ability to create jaw-dropping effects,skins,2d imagery and 3d models etc...

Hitech is now seeing that users with greater MHZ cpu's and higher performance videocards are populating the market, and thusly is Raising the level of detail wither it be more polygon count, and inturn inhanceing the requirement of the video cards workload.

You will see as more and more "technology" is developed, there is a direct relationship of these enhancments due to the pace of Hardware movement at the same time.

-Deez
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Dago on October 18, 2002, 12:11:10 PM
Lets see if these appear

(http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/evil/440/cripes1a.jpg)

(http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/evil/440/cripes2a.jpg)

(http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/evil/440/cripes3a.jpg)

(http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/evil/440/cripes4a.jpg)
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Pongo on October 18, 2002, 12:31:22 PM
Rip the other picture shows the detail of the wing better.
but we will see. I will remind you bud.
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Ripsnort on October 18, 2002, 12:42:10 PM
Just hope the cockpits get a graphics upgrade!
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Superfly on October 18, 2002, 01:09:41 PM
Rip, I think it's time you invested in some glasses.  ;)  Yes, the cockpit is being redone as well.
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Wmaker on October 18, 2002, 01:18:49 PM
Hiya Superfly!

New Pony looks awesome!! :D

If you can spill the beans a little...besides the P-51D are there any other older models getting a facelift in 1.11? :) ;)
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Mitsu on October 18, 2002, 05:46:15 PM
SUPERFLY, it's too good.
BTW Do you apply the same cockpit to P-51B?
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Citabria on October 18, 2002, 05:56:18 PM
yes is p51b getting update too?
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Sundog on October 18, 2002, 06:35:17 PM
To really see the improvements in the new P-51D model, look at the wing fillet/fuselage interface and the windscreen/bubble canopy in profile. You'll notice the difference.

Of course, as long as you guys are at it, I would recommend updating the P-51B and throwing an A-36A in as well :D

Of course, anything you guys do will be really cool. Thanks for the P-51D update. :)
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Zigrat on October 18, 2002, 07:43:30 PM
the pony b looks ok as is imo
Title: For Superfly
Post by: OIO on October 18, 2002, 07:54:44 PM


no P-38 F/G/H/J ? :(
Title: For Superfly
Post by: Glasses on October 18, 2002, 09:27:49 PM
Good I'm Glad the P51D got upgraded it's one of the most of the eldest in AH when poly count is concerned. Now the other Aircraft that definetly needs a polygon upgrade are the 109 series 109F4 to 109G10 they are with the Spit and Pony one of the  eldest aircraft in AH,the Spit and pony had their chance it is time to upgrade the 109s aswell. GET GOING!!!!!!!! :D