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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on January 01, 2002, 02:03:00 AM
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because
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I was almost expecting you to come in here and try to tell everyone how the plane really isn't that good and the only reason anyone can do well in it is because they are an outstanding stick.
You've definately earned the right to call this ride your baby.
AKDejaVu
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Wisdom of the day Cit ? did you errr... (http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/ruinkai/biggrindunce.gif) before ?
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I'm just saying i love flying it.
because I do
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13th TAS will be all 38 all the time for the next tour.
I wonder what folks will accuse us of this tour when we shoot their arses down? :)
BTW...Happy New Year!
(http://www.13thtas.com/rudesig.jpg)
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I'll have my lawnmower out- and my weedeater, too. ;)
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Festertardria cheats and the 13th Tas stays too high to be a danger. Whats to worry? ;) ;) :D
Worship the Fork!
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I don't fear the P38 when I fly my Hellcat. Though I probably don't run into the really good P38 drivers, but that's been my experience.
Hellcat rules! (If you get rid of the LA7, Spit, N1K, Yak....<g> )
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I love it. Glad I'm back in my favorite virtual ride. :)
xBAT
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Originally posted by Saintaw:
Wisdom of the day Cit ? did you errr... (http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/ruinkai/biggrindunce.gif) before ?
can someone give me the link to the ubb smileys page?
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Smiles (http://www.mysmilies.com)
[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: Zippatuh ]
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test:
(http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s2/ups/dvx_rune/eye.gif) (http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s2/ups/dvx_rune/eye.gif)
cooool
[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: ra ]
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It sure does Cit.
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P-38... the other other white meat!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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an impatient 38 pilot is no match for a spit :)
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Once upon a time, when I saw a P38; I would smile, knowing that very soon there would be one less P38 in the area.
Then I ran into a p38 that had a very hot stick flying it, and I was wrestled to a draw. Soon after, I was getting hammered by the damn things. Nowadays I see one, then I'm seeing a problem... I see two; I see a nylon letdown in the making. Three, and it's time to get outta Dodge.
I dunno if the flight models been 'fixed', or there are more dedicated pilots that enjoy obstructed views and fragile tails... in either case, the population density of the Forked Tailed Devils would seem to be on the increase.
<S!> Lightnings! Now, please; go kill an FW and leave me the hell alone. :)
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At least for me, there is no other plane like the P-38. I've been virtually flying the twin tailed beauty for over 8 years now and plan to keep flying it for as long as I'm able to.
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P38 has definately matured here in AH.
A am enjoying it quite a bit.
(http://www.13thtas.com/yeagersig.jpg)
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Maybe it's time to learn the AH variant... I'm not a stats guy, but I thought the 38L didn't have compression issues (Hydraulic ailerons and all), but our 38 flight model certainly does... Does anyone know if this is accurate?
Max - Out!
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I'm loving the P-38. After months of incredible 1-ping deaths, the last update cured it. Its still a bit tricky with the compression and stuff in the JABO roll. But, as a fighter, up high, its awesome...I'm trying to not get suckered into the turn fights with Spits and such. Its an impressive aircraft that takes some "getting to know".
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All prop planes have compression issues.
The P38L can still roll though because of the hydraulically boosted ailerons, and can pull out of a dive thanks to dive flaps (not actual dive brakes).
The earlier models suffered from compression to the degree of never pulling out. Some did, and those that did had wings that were warped beyond repair.
-SW
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: SWulfe ]
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The 38 had some of the worst "compression issues" going. Although they put a flap onboard with the J-25-LO and later models (I think that's right, I know the L's had it.)to help you recover from that "nose-tuck" compression dive, that didn't change the fundamental problem. The airframe is the airframe, so they didn't do anything that could change it's very low critical mach number significantly, because that would entain re-designing the aircraft. The boosted ailerons helped with roll especially at higher speeds, but that doesn't address the compression issue.
Basically, the flaps they added would disrupt the airflow and give you a bit of control back plus give you some nose-up to help you recover. It didn't make the compression problem go away, just helped you avoid making a really big smoking hole in the ground. :)
I think the AH P-38 seems quite accurate in it's latest iteration.
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Fowler Flap installed on P38's kept nose slightly up in a dive......nothing more. This helped keep the 38 from reaching compression speed. P38 a great aircraft...as are all. Each has vices and virtues. :eek:
However if the pilot were persistant, I read that it would still compress if forced.
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Hajo ]
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Just glad the butt doesnt fall off with a ping or two anymore, now it will really shine in destroying bases since it climbs like the devil with a full load.
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With a tweaked 38 anyone can fly great.
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Originally posted by Hajo:
Fowler Flap installed on P38's kept nose slightly up in a dive......nothing more. This helped keep the 38 from reaching compression speed. P38 a great aircraft...as are all. Each has vices and virtues. :eek:
However if the pilot were persistant, I read that it would still compress if forced.
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Hajo ]
A P-38 can also avoid compression by starting dives under 20,000ft. That's one of the main reasons why the P-38 was so effective in the MTO compared to the ETO. Operational alts in the MTO rarely exceeded 16,000ft, while in the ETO operational alts were routinely above 20,000ft.
This website, P-38 Online (http://www.p-38online.com/) has some really good information on the P-38.