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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on October 21, 2002, 01:57:16 PM
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Stolen from Cruc at AGW:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772921/posts
Of COURSE its our fault, hell our bomb that killed 200 at Bali!
:mad: :mad:
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Love the source. FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" :rolleyes:
"The United States MAY have had an active role in carrying out last week's bombing of an international nightclub, members of a panel said at a campus round-table discussion Friday. "
""The information received is that several groups are being looked at more closely," said Jeffrey Hadler, a UC Berkeley professor of South and Southeast Asian studies. "The most important thing is to wait for the investigation." "
Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.
:rolleyes:
Oh yeah, and :mad: :mad: to you to.
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members of a panel said at a campus round-table discussion Friday.
so, lets see if I understand this corectly- a bunch of stoned college kids from berkley got togethter to talk about the bomb, and one of them says between tokes "hey, the us gov't might have done it" and some dipshit quotes him as a source?
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AFAIK at this point there is about as much evidence that the US did it as there is that al qeda did it, but it is accepted as fact that al qeda is guilty. maybe it was a rival night club owner.
i blame Wild Bill Stealey
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sniped from another BB....
""Al Qaeda has turned into this incredibly convenient phantom,"...like the klan?"
Like the Religious Right? Like the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy? Like "Gun-nuts"?
unsnip...
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Who cares what a panel at Berkley says? They lost all credibility nearly 30 years ago.
AKDejaVu
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didn't the unibomber teach at Berkley?
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Yep he was a math professor there during the 1960s IIRC, is it any wonder he became a terrorist?
UC Berkely is on top of a hill mostly and sorrounded by lots of trees, someday I hope this situation will prove to be very convenient for some enterprising people sometime down the road.... You know that incense stick can sometimes fall down and start fires. :D
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UC Berkeley's 18 Nobel Prize Winners
Current Faculty Nobel Laureates
2001 - George A. Akerlof (Economics)
2000 - Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
1986 - Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
1983 - Gerard Debreu (Economics)
1980 - Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
1964 - Charles H. Townes (Physics)
1960 - Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
1959 - Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
Faculty Nobel Laureates deceased or no longer at UC Berkeley
1994 - John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
1968 - Luis Alvarez (Physics)
1961 - Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
1959 - Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
1951 - Edwin M. McMillan (Chemistry)
1951 - Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
1949 - William F. Giauque (Chemistry)
1946 - John H. Northrop (Chemistry)
1946 - Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry)
1939 - Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics)
Berkeley seems to be doing something right ... go figure?
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the Nobel Prize means nothing , it's like the J D Powers award, everybody gets one.
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MT you left out:
1969 - Theodore Kaczynski (Terrorism)
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1980 - Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
1964 - Charles H. Townes (Physics)
Notice the gap? 16 years of drugs.....the 60's changed America...certain of it.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
1980 - Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
1964 - Charles H. Townes (Physics)
Notice the gap? 16 years of drugs.....the 60's changed America...certain of it.
"1968 - Luis Alvarez (Physics) "
Are you ticked that they wouldn't let you in because they had a "Must know bigger number from smaller number" prerequisite? :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
1980 - Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
1964 - Charles H. Townes (Physics)
Notice the gap? 16 years of drugs.....the 60's changed America...certain of it.
Saying the 60's changed America is about as tough a call as saying Hitler was a bad guy.
Saying that it was changed for the worse is just plain wrong, and using the Nobel gap at Berkeley to make your point is ... well... beneath you.
1st. Most colleges or universities would give their right nut for just ONE Nobel Laureat.
2nd. If your theory holds true, there should be a gap in Nobel prizes for American scientists in the 60's. Berkeley wasn't the only place where people did drugs you know.
Literature - 1962 Steinbeck
Physics - 1969 Gell Mann (CIT),1968 LUIS W. ALVAREZ (Berkeley),1967 HANS ALBRECHT BETHE (Cornell), 1965 RICHARD P. FEYNMAN (MIT), 1965 JULIAN SCHWINGER (Harvard), 1964 CHARLES H. TOWNES (MIT), 1963 EUGENE P. WIGNER (Princeton), 1963 MARIA GOEPPERT-MAYER (UC San Diego), 1961 ROBERT HOFSTADTER (Stanford)
Chemistry - 1968 LARS ONSAGER (Yale), 1966 ROBERT S. MULLIKEN (University of Chicago), 1961 MELVIN CALVIN (Berkeley)
PEACE - 1964 MARTIN LUTHER KING JR., 1962 LINUS CARL PAULING (CIT, also Chemistry in 1954)
Physiology or Medicine - 1969 MAX DELBRÜCK (CIT), 1969 ALFRED D. HERSHEY (Carnegie Institution), 1969 SALVADOR E. LURIA (MIT), 1968 ROBERT W. HOLLEY (Cornell), 1968 HAR GOBIND KHORANA (University of Wisconsin, Madison), 1968 MARSHALL W. NIRENBERG (National Institutes of Health, Bethesda), 1967 HALDAN KEFFER HARTLINE ( Rockefeller University), 1967 GEORGE WALD (Harvard), 1966 PEYTON ROUS (Rockefeller University), 1964 KONRAD BLOCH (Harvard), 1961 GEORG VON BÉKÉSY (Harvard).
CIT - California Institute of Technology
Where is that drug gap again? Silly Ripsnort.
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Wow Target... you win.
The thread is about retarded political comments but you have to thrown in that berkley has great phisics and chemistry (and apparently a decent economics dept) as if its relevant.
Tell me once again.. what does that do to qualify the above group's findings?
I've met quite a few PhD's that were glad to be from Berkley... well away from Berkley.
It is a joke as far as anything political goes. Deep down.. you must know that.
AKDejaVu
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I've got an idea! Instead of alla these poor lemmings shelling out thousands of dollars for a Berkley education....
Let 'em come to this BBS instead! Just $14.95 a friggen month!
We know what's what, huh? I mean... if ya wan't the *real* dope on how the whole thing works, we've got all the answers.
The AH BBS scholars have it goin' ON!
Pfft... where do these Berkley people get the cajones to question anything?! You'd think they were a damn University or something...Ha!... Ah well, they'll learn...
er wait...
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Wow Target... you win.
but you have to thrown in that berkley has great phisics and chemistry
AKDejaVu
......they come in handy when building bombs.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Wow Target... you win.
The thread is about retarded political comments but you have to thrown in that berkley has great phisics and chemistry (and apparently a decent economics dept) as if its relevant.
Tell me once again.. what does that do to qualify the above group's findings?
I've met quite a few PhD's that were glad to be from Berkley... well away from Berkley.
It is a joke as far as anything political goes. Deep down.. you must know that.
AKDejaVu
This thread is not about retarded political comments, the title of the thread is "Peoples Republic of Berkeley at it again".
I responded to the inane attacks on Berkeley by Ripsnort, Grunherz and yourself. All of you acting like small minded children chanting "Berkeley bad, Berkeley bad, Berkeley bad".
Well wake up and smell the anecdotal evidence. "I know some PhD's and they all agree with me."
Next time I'll check with you DJ, just to confirm the subject of the thread before I respond to imbecilic rants about a minor panel's stupid remarks, that happen to be on the grounds of one of the finest Universities in the Country.
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Bacterial infections start out small....
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Puppies grow into big dogs......
:rolleyes:
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LOL!
OK..
I wonder if there's a difference between thought and rhetoric.
Maybe if the "Berkley" view was anything other than the same rhetoric it has been for the last 30+ years this would matter. But it is not. Anyone wonder why Berkley is being cited here? I'm pretty sure there are numerous other college committees that had similar meetings with similar results... why publish an article on Berkley's findings? Oh yea... because they are FAMOUS for that kind of crap.
I'm sure everything is clearly evaluated and the think tank weighs all of the options right before coming out and saying the exact same thing over and over again.
AKDejaVu
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Maybe we should use this sort of thing as a crime solving method. Forget investigations or questioning people. We’ll just have a bunch of college guys sit around and speculate, then quote them like it means something. :rolleyes:
The ridicule has nothing to do with Berkley academic credentials.
It has a lot to do with people who are sitting around BS'n, several thousand miles from the crime scene. not likely 'in the loop' as far as being provided access to evidence that has been collected, and guessing what the think might have happened. then being quoted as if they are some kind of source of credible info.
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"Ian Buchanan Harry Bhaskara (left), an Indonesian journalist and visiting scholar at UC Berkeley, speaks about the recent bombing in Indonesia. "
"Five academics and journalists came to UC Berkeley and examined a number of theories on the source of the explosion. "
So the US involvemnet was just ONE theory.
Cripes, they were just sitting around discussing US involvement as one possible THEORY.
Can anyone here prove that the US wasn't involved? At least one of them said that "The most important thing is to wait for the investigation." .
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Um thrawn...
Technically EVERY nation COULD be responsible. I mean.. can you prove that each and every one WASN'T responsible?
Great logic there.
:rolleyes:
AKDejaVu
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Seems to me the real issue here is that the question (US involvement) was raised at all. Now isn't it sad in this FREE country of ours that an institution who's mandate is to produce THINKERS is derided for asking a difficult and possibly abstract question?
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BTW Thrawn...
This coming out of a Berkley "think tank" is about equal to GB instantly blaming the Axis of Evil for it.
The odd thing is... everyone posting in threads like this seems to think one was right for what they said and the other was wrong.
Very strange.
Actually... very typical.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Um thrawn...
Technically EVERY nation COULD be responsible. I mean.. can you prove that each and every one WASN'T responsible?
Great logic there.
:rolleyes:
AKDejaVu
How is the logic false?
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Careful with that mirror, Deja, a liberal doesn't see its own reflection much like that of the Vampire. ;)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
How is the logic false?
False? Um... don't think I said "false".
Stupid is a better description.
Everyone is guilty until proven innocent. Sorry... that's stupid.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Careful with that mirror, Deja, a liberal doesn't see its own reflection much like that of the Vampire. ;)
Neither does a conservative. That's part of the problem.
AKDejaVu
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Anyone wonder why Berkley is being cited here? - Deja
Anyone wonder why Berkley is being cited by FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum"?
Gee... I wonder....
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
False? Um... don't think I said "false".
Stupid is a better description.
Everyone is guilty until proven innocent. Sorry... that's stupid.
AKDejaVu
No, what is stupid is that people are getting pissed at a school because 5 people there have stated that ONE possiblity that the US is involved, but that the important thing is wait for an investigation into the matter.
"I wonder if there's a difference between thought and rhetoric. "
Cripes, read over your posts again. Apparently you honestly don't know the difference.
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LOL
"Editor's Note: In Monday's article "UC Berkeley Panel Probes Cause of Deadly Bali Blast," the article incorrectly stated that members at a panel, including UC Berkeley professor Jeffrey Hadler, said the United States may have had an active role in carrying out last week's bombing of an Indonesian night club. Hadler and the other panelists actually said some Indonesian groups have alleged U.S. involvement in the blast as a possibility. At this time, there is no actual evidence supporting these claims by some Indonesian groups."
This red herring stuff is so typical of a Ripsort post it's hilarious!
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But Berkeley is BAD!!! We can't let the facts get in the way!
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Originally posted by Nash
LOL
these claims by some Indonesian groups."
This red herring stuff is so typical of a Ripsort post it's hilarious!
Thank you! (Bows deeply) Here to serve! :)
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Midnights finally getting it! See? Not all is wasted!
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Another one of those "yeah it's bogus, but the POINT remains" things huh Rip? :)
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Kinda like that aircraft carrier with "diddly Iraq" on it?
http://www.snopes.com/photos/iraq.htm
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If it gets a liberals pants in a knot, my day is complete. :)
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Looks like you ended getting more conservatives pants in a knot to me.
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whaaa??? Berkley is still part of the union ???
I can't belive I used to play there.. scarey.
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"I hate hippies!" - Eric Cartman
-SW
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Midnights finally getting it! See? Not all is wasted!
Sure, I get it.
IT = Ripsnort doesn't recognise sarcasm without a few of
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: <----these