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Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on October 22, 2002, 06:29:15 AM: We need Japanese Torpedoes to bring out the best from Ki-67.

Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes.

First table: from ISBN4-7628-2323-1 Japanese Military Technology: The Pacific War for the Technicians and Engineers by Y. Ikari, page 73

(http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~sin/scan/hyou1.jpg)

Aerial Torpedoes:
Name: Type 91
Diameter: 45 centimeters
Length: 5.3 meters
Weight: 785 kilograms
Range and Speed: 1.5 to 2 kilometers at 42 knots, 3 kilometers at 36 knots
Weight of Explosive: 150 to 420 kilograms

Second table: from ISBN4-7698-0923-9 Diagrams of Military Aircraft Series 14 (Handy [Portable?] Edition) Type 97 Carrier-bourne Attack Aircraft/Tenzan, page 74

(http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~sin/scan/hyou2.jpg)

Type 91 Torpedoes:

Model: Kai 1
Length: 5270 millimeters
Weight: 785 kilograms
Weight of Explosive: 150 kilograms
Range: 2000 meters
Maximum Launch Speed: 260 knots

Model: Kai 2
Length: 5470 millimeters
Weight: 838 kilograms
Weight of Explosive: 205 kilograms
Range: 2000 meters
Maximum Launch Speed: 260 knots

Model: Kai 3
Length: 5470 millimeters
Weight: 852 kilograms
Weight of Explosive: 240 kilograms
Range: 2000 meters
Maximum Launch Speed: 260 knots

Model: Kai 3 Modified
Length: 5470 millimeters
Weight: 858 kilograms
Weight of Explosive: 240 kilograms
Range: 2000 meters
Maximum Launch Speed: 300 knots

Model: Kai 3 Strengthened
Length: 5470 millimeters
Weight: 858 kilograms
Weight of Explosive: 240 kilograms
Range: 1500 meters
Maximum Launch Speed: 350 knots

Model: Kai 7 Strengthened
Length: 5710 millimeters
Weight: 1055 kilograms
Weight of Explosive: 420 kilograms
Range: 1500 meters
Maximum Launch Speed: 350 knots
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on October 28, 2002, 03:56:06 PM: HTC, Thanks for the KATE!

Please, please model Japanese torpedoes!

Mitsu, are these the right one for the KATE?
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: Karnak on October 28, 2002, 04:59:58 PM: No. These are all much later than the Kate. These are appropriate for the B6N2, B7A2 and Ki.67.

The B5N that we're getting used torps with significantly lower maximum water entry speeds.
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on October 28, 2002, 06:24:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
The B5N that we're getting used torps with significantly lower maximum water entry speeds.

Yeah well, how much is significantly lower? 100knts? The type 91 launches at 350knts. 100 lower is still 250knts which is significantly higher than the 200knt torp we have right now.

Post edit...
gonna go crack some books on this... btw, even if the torps were designed later than the aircraft, does that mean the the torps were not used on that particular aircraft?
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on October 29, 2002, 02:07:29 AM: ah ha!

From Imperial Japanese Navy Page (http://www.combinedfleet.com/)

Quote
Here's an interesting (if a little bit beaten up) picture of the 'Kate' which finished off the already damaged USS Hornet on October 24, 1942. The splash of the torpedo (which most likely would have been a Type 91 Mod 2 or 3) can be seen at the lower right. This weapon struck Hornet at 1523 hours, and ended any hopes of saving her. (Scanned from Frank, "Guadalcanal") (http://64.124.221.191/katetorp.jpg)

Model: Type 91 Mod 2
Diameter : 17.7"
Length OA: 18' 0"
Total Weight: 1841 lbs.
Explosive Charge: 452 lbs.
Range: 2000m @ 41 kts
Max Launch Speed: 260 kts.
Comments: First deployed in April, 1941. Carried by the 'Kate' torpedo bombers which attacked Pearl Harbor

It seems the Kate was able to carry the Type 91 Kai 2 and Type 91 Kai 3...

We need 'em both :)
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: Mitsu on October 29, 2002, 06:46:21 AM: yep. KATE could load one Type 91 Kai 2 (Type 91 Mod 2) 838kg torpedo.
also KATE had one 800kg AP bomb for ships too.
I hope they will model it.
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on October 30, 2002, 07:31:04 PM: Modified the post above and added the Type 91 Kai 1 and Kai 2 to the list :)
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on December 20, 2002, 04:58:05 PM: we need these too...
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: FDutchmn on December 26, 2002, 08:12:28 PM: I aint giving up on this one either... PUNT!!!;)
Title: Please model Japanese Airborne Torpedoes
Post by: TheCage on February 11, 2003, 09:36:13 PM: PUNT :)

Now if we could only get the 38 dive flaps working :rolleyes: