Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 08:27:28 AM

Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 08:27:28 AM
?
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Mox on October 23, 2002, 08:39:43 AM
Reminds me of the movie Swordfish.

All the blood and gore, LIVE in HDTV on all channels.

LOL at the media!
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: lazs2 on October 23, 2002, 08:59:33 AM
In order to maintain a good mood....

I haven't watched the news or read a newspapper for about 9 years except during times of great impact like the WTC or gulf war.  Even then... I watch fox and in very small doses..  Nothing about the current situation seems worth watching at this point.

I think we all might be a little better off without the talking heads.
lazs
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: midnight Target on October 23, 2002, 09:46:39 AM
OTOH, it is the best way to get info out to the public that just might save a life.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Wotan on October 23, 2002, 10:08:58 AM
all the news does is allow national coverage. Those that live in and around that area live it every time he strikes with long lines of traffic and by seeing the numbers of police cars all over.

A news black out my cause more panic to the folks that live there then the news coverage.

Imagine every other day all the freeways are shut down police everywhere stopping and searching vehicles while heavily armed. Aircraft zooming over head.

The media may play up the story and make the sniper a celebrity but that arent causing mass hysteria....

I havent seen any hysterical people running about.

Interesting enough most people the reporters ask in the area about being scared are all out on the street going about their lives.

Spreading terror? are you terrified? 200+ people were killed last year in that area. That would scare me more then the sniper. We get more folks struck by lightening every year here in florida.

I hope they get the bastige but come on. I thought it was the liberals who always pull out the dramatics.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 10:18:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Wotan

I havent seen any hysterical people running about.
 


If thats your definition of mass hysteria, then so be it.  This is my definition:

Quote
In Virginia, more than 140,000 students in the Richmond area were to return to school  Wednesday after a two-day school closure prompted by Saturday's shooting.

Washington-area schools planned to open with the same heightened security measures  -- including no outdoor activities -- under which they have operated for more than two weeks.

Kathy Franco, who was shopping with her 2-year-old son, Liam, and six-week-old  daughter, Katherine, in Silver Spring, Md., was angered by the suspect's warning about children.

"As a parent, it just completely brings out every animal instinct," she said. "These two are the most important things in the world for me."


Midnight, agreed, however when the press begins to camp out as they did at the OJ trial, I would tend to think that promotes the snipers intentions even more so...copy cats is what worries me.
In the 90's after Columbine, school shootings rose....will this type of crime due to excessive coverage rise as well?  I guess thats what the poll is asking...
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Wotan on October 23, 2002, 10:25:04 AM
come on rip thats not hysteria, the sniper specifically threatened children, he also shot a kid at school.

The police expected him to be in richmond. They had cops positioned all in henrico county. Near DC they had police at the highway exits hoping to catch him trying to get home.

Thats completely different then hysteria..........
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 10:27:00 AM
Yeah, right Wotan LOL! School closures affecting 140,000 students?  Nope, nothing here to see, move along..LOL!
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Thrawn on October 23, 2002, 10:27:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
copy cats is what worries me.


Same here.  This guy is showing all the would be killers out there that someone with a rifle and some precautions can shoot at least 13 people and the cops can't do SFA about it.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Wotan on October 23, 2002, 10:34:05 AM
Rip in that guys note it included a specific threat against children. They expected him in that area. He already shot a kid at school.

So the police I am sure told this to the school boards. They decided to close. The media didnt cause that. The police also said that they couldnt guarrantee anyones safety. Regardless of the tv coverage I wouldnt want any of my kids in school.

We get lotsa lightening strikes on folks here in florida. The odds of getting hit are way high. Yet millions of folks go indoors when theyu see lightening. Are they hysterical?

Hysterical would be you folks on the left coast closing down your schools over whats happening in DC.

By the way this guy is a "copy cat" that Franklin guy sniped many more.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 10:42:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Wotan

We get lotsa lightening strikes on folks here in florida. The odds of getting hit are way high. Yet millions of folks go indoors when theyu see lightening. Are they hysterical?
 


Thank you very much for proving my point.  If the media provided as much coverage on lightning strikes as they did this sniper, Yes, there would be hysteria, and folks would never go outside when a thunderstorm approached.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: AKSWulfe on October 23, 2002, 10:48:27 AM
The worst part is, the news is saying nothing new and doing nothing more than going "we know there's a sniper out there, we know he can strike at any time, and we know everyone's a target"

Damn it, I knew that the first week he started cappin peeps... don't air news just to air it, they have no news... it's just rehashed BS that's been heard over and over and over and over and over.. last night at 2AM the montgomery police chief had a live conference.. and all I got out of it was nothing. Then these retards that are called reporters, and other assorted 15 minutes to fame dipshits, start trying to analyze it and arrive at a conclusion that I can arrive at after a 12 pack of beer.

To say the media is playing a role in informing the public is like saying pollution is good for the atmosphere.
-SW
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Wotan on October 23, 2002, 10:54:09 AM
man your reachin bud,

if the guy was in your area and had already shot a kid. Then left a note threatening to shoot more and the police advise the school board of this would you be opposed to them closing the schools for a short time?

The schools in that area didnt close because the media scared people. They closed because the sniper made a threat. Not only that he actually shot a kid at school.

Btw they are open now, they didnt close school forever.

Evry time someone gets hit by lightening in this area its on the news. Folks go inside. Again not hysteria.

And one more time the media didnt cause the schools to be closed. It was the credible threat the sniper made against children.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 11:11:23 AM
You couldn't be more wrong Wotan. The decision to shut the schools down were on Saturday, the police were not able to read the note until sunday (see below) and Monday it was reported, the schools were already shut down in and around that area of the latest shooting.

Quote
The Washington Post reported that the deadline for
                      delivering the $10 million was this past Monday, but that FBI
                      analysis of the plastic bag enclosing the Saturday letter
                      prevented it from being read until midday Sunday.


The note was NOT the decision for closing them, the act of violence, and media hysteria was
:
Quote
"In Virginia, more than 140,000 students in the Richmond area were to return to school Wednesday after a two-day school closure prompted by Saturday's shooting.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: midnight Target on October 23, 2002, 11:21:51 AM
Big difference between hysteria and drastic action.

Drastic action can be appropriate, hysteria isn't.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Octavius on October 23, 2002, 11:32:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by AKSWulfe
The worst part is, the news is saying nothing new and doing nothing more than going "we know there's a sniper out there, we know he can strike at any time, and we know everyone's a target"

Damn it, I knew that the first week he started cappin peeps... don't air news just to air it, they have no news... it's just rehashed BS that's been heard over and over and over and over and over.. last night at 2AM the montgomery police chief had a live conference.. and all I got out of it was nothing. Then these retards that are called reporters, and other assorted 15 minutes to fame dipshits, start trying to analyze it and arrive at a conclusion that I can arrive at after a 12 pack of beer.

To say the media is playing a role in informing the public is like saying pollution is good for the atmosphere.
-SW


Couldn't agree more with ya SW!  After surgery last week, I've been on the couch for 5 days straight.  TV (news channels in general) pisses me off.  The latest shooting (of the bus driver) was still considered "breaking news" 8 hours AFTER the initial shooting!  The choppers zoomed in and out on officers and agents walking around and talking.  It made atleast a hundred circles over the shooting area.  They have NO news, so they report and rehash EVERYTHING just to make sure they keep viewers 'just tuning in' informed.  There are many many other stories they could be reporting or discussing.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Wotan on October 23, 2002, 12:00:06 PM
I am not wrong you are.

That quote doesnt say that on saturday they decided to close the schools. It says thatsthe school closings were prompted by Saturdays shooting. That could mean anything.

It does not say when the descision was made.

There has been "speculation" from other news sources that the authorities contacted the school board officials and advised them of the threat. Then the descision was made.

But any way you want to look at it the media hasnt caused terror or hysteria. The guy that already shot a child at school did. On Tuesday he shot someone else. How do you know that the school closings didnt actualy save a child?

Its clear hes gonna shoot someone else.

Today during the press conference one of the speakers said he was scared for his own children and that they are not witholding information from anyone.

The media maybe trying to make a buck off the shootings but they aint terrrorizing any body.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 12:00:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Big difference between hysteria and drastic action.

Drastic action can be appropriate, hysteria isn't.


Which brings us full circle...the "Media Circus" has created hysteria. As usual.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Nifty on October 23, 2002, 12:19:06 PM
Hang on, I'll decide this.

Heads - mass hysteria
Tails - drastic action

I'll even use a Virginia quarter I happen to have in my change drawer, best 2 of 3.

Heads
Tails
Tails

Sorry Rip, you're wrong.  It's "drastic action" on the school board's part.  Not mass hysteria.

(arguing over fediddlein' semantics...  sheesh.)
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: StSanta on October 23, 2002, 01:30:05 PM
(arguing over fediddlein' semantics... sheesh.)

My software wants to speak to you.
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Eagler on October 23, 2002, 01:45:59 PM
how many ppl died in auto accidents in the same geographical location as the shootings during the same time period?

my guess is many more, making your odds much higher to die by auto than sniper bullet. That ain't sensational enough though for the media to point out ...

where the hell is Gary COndom er Condit when you really need him!
(http://www.house.gov/gcondit/backtwo.jpg)
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Modas on October 23, 2002, 02:37:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort


Thank you very much for proving my point.  If the media provided as much coverage on lightning strikes as they did this sniper, Yes, there would be hysteria, and folks would never go outside when a thunderstorm approached.



I don't agree with that.  The mentallity is..  It won't be me, the other guy will be the one to get it.  Not me, I'm invincible.  No one thinks they are the one who's card is about to get punched.

I know I'm not suppose to got out and watch the lightning, I do anyways, cuz I'm not going to get hit.  I'm invincible and its really cool.  :D
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: lazs2 on October 23, 2002, 03:12:07 PM
MT... just what have I missed in the last 9 years that "might save my life"  that was broadcast on the news?    If it is worthwhile someone will tell me about it.   If it is immennent... they will break into my life in some way anyhow..

In the meantime.... I don't seem to have missed much.
lazs
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2002, 03:14:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Modas



I don't agree with that.  The mentallity is..  It won't be me, the other guy will be the one to get it.  Not me, I'm invincible.  No one thinks they are the one who's card is about to get punched.

I know I'm not suppose to got out and watch the lightning, I do anyways, cuz I'm not going to get hit.  I'm invincible and its really cool.  :D


I'm assuming your under 30?  True, thats applicable with the young, however, when you get old, you get the attitude of "no, not taking a risk, I made it THIS far, I've been lucky!"

Thats why young men go to war, son. ;)
Title: POLL: Which instrument is better at spreading terror and mass hysteria?
Post by: midnight Target on October 23, 2002, 03:35:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
MT... just what have I missed in the last 9 years that "might save my life"  that was broadcast on the news?    If it is worthwhile someone will tell me about it.   If it is immennent... they will break into my life in some way anyhow..

In the meantime.... I don't seem to have missed much.
lazs


Well we discussed it and decided not to tell you. :p


But seriously, your life may not have been saved, but right off the top of my head I can think of the 2 girls kidnapped in Palmdale.

I was also thinking that information spread quickly through the media might lead to the capture of the sniper. Law enforcement uses the media too you know.