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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on October 24, 2002, 06:26:47 AM
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sounds like by an observant civvy, the feds have their sniper(s)
with the stolen cc/money transfer - they sound like real rocket scientists...
hope they publicly execute them - live on PPV
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20021024/ts_nm/crime_shootings_dc
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My original guess was:
"White male, younger,ex-Army, angry"
Turns out this suspect is (The father) is Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam...
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/69465/124_2_221_johnallen3.jpg)
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Oh I'm sure Farakan and the Million Man march will defend him... :rolleyes:
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Reports I heard (from the liberal cesspool of CNN lol) claimed that these two were arrested as material witnesses, and not suspects. I wonder if they think this guy was the driver or what?
I'm still going to be "Moving in a Zig-Zag pattern while pumping gas" just like the Onion recomends.
-Sikboy
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Public hangings and meat cleavers...
... very Taliban-esque. Perhaps you should do it in a football stadium too?
A better, more civilised, more legal way would to be have a fair trial followed by the appropriate sentence as decided by the Judge - be that custodial or execution.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Reports I heard (from the liberal cesspool of CNN lol) claimed that these two were arrested as material witnesses, and not suspects. I wonder if they think this guy was the driver or what?
I'm still going to be "Moving in a Zig-Zag pattern while pumping gas" just like the Onion recomends.
-Sikboy
I think these are the guys
As muchas the media wants it to be bigger and not over with, I think these two killers are it. Not the brightest bulbs in the pack are they... Sleeping at a rest stop while on the run, using a cc you killed/stole for - asking $10 million dolllars to be transfered to it, signing in at area hotels under your real name, ...
yeah real bright ones.
These two dimwits have illustrated just how easy it is to get away with this form of terror. If they had half a brain between them, this spree could have gone on forever...
Hang Em High! :mad:
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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
Public hangings and meat cleavers...
... very Taliban-esque. Perhaps you should do it in a football stadium too?
A better, more civilised, more legal way would to be have a fair trial followed by the appropriate sentence as decided by the Judge - be that custodial or execution.
the first voice of the bleeding heart left has spoken :rolleyes:
many more to follow, I'm afraid ...
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So legal due process is a liberal invention?
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There have been two opinions on the BBS about the identity of the killers from the very beginning. The first opinion was that the shooter was a home-grown psycho (with some believing he was the stereotypical Southern white-male gun-nut). The second opinion was that he was the member of a Muslim terrorist cell.
Except for the belief that he was a WASPish gun-nut, it turns out that he was both; home-grown and a Muslim terrorist.
Justice would be served by turning him over to the relatives of his victims and allowing them to do whatever they want to with him.
Shuckins
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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
So legal due process is a liberal invention?
just ur whining about it is - as if we could take them to the tallest tree and just string them up :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by H. Godwineson
There have been two opinions on the BBS about the identity of the killers from the very beginning. The first opinion was that the shooter was a home-grown psycho (with some believing he was the stereotypical Southern white-male gun-nut). The second opinion was that he was the member of a Muslim terrorist cell.
Except for the belief that he was a WASPish gun-nut, it turns out that he was both; home-grown and a Muslim terrorist.
Justice would be served by turning him over to the relatives of his victims and allowing them to do whatever they want to with him.
Shuckins
Yet we have crying from the Left as to our tightened internal security in the US..and Ashcroft will have a camera in every house..OH MY THE SKY IS FALLING! LOL!
WTG FBI and other investigations if indeed this is our sniper.
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Yup. I'm glad they finally got these two.
Public hanging would work.
Can we wear bedsheets?
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Originally posted by Oedipus
I definately thought it was a terrorist cell. I'm honestly surprised.
It is still early. We American's love a good conspiracy (not as much as the French apparently) and if we can link this to the other American grown Islamic fundamentalists arrested in the Pacific Northwest, we probably will. Hey, maybe it's related, maybe it's not. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
The news also mentioned a "survivalist training camp" in Alabama(?) that is being investigated for possible ties to Violent Islamic Fundamentalism. It will be interesting to see the whole story.
-Sik
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"Can we wear bedsheets?"
rogwar... normally.... no, but these appear to be black people and lynching would be considered a "hate crime" so you might want to conceal your identity.
lazs
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Did I just see Dowding get called a liberal for saying "Let the courts do their job"?
I believe that if these two are the ones, they should be executed.
Why is it that whenever a murderer is caught, so many go on a "let's string him up!" or "torture him to death!" posting spree? I understand frustration over someone getting away with such a haneous crime for so long, and I believe that this is simply a way to vent... but it really doesn't speak well for those issuing the statements.
The courts will try them and they will be executed. When we start demanding more... well... just think about it for a second.
AKDejaVu
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Have these two actually been charged with anything yet?
...or do you just want to execute them first.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Have these two actually been charged with anything yet?
...or do you just want execute them first.
They are filing 6 murder charges this afternoon was the latest report.
Personally, I don't care what happens to them if they are the ones...they're off the street now.
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Incidently, the area the FBI combed in Tacoma was 10 miles from where I live as the crow flies..neighbors reported hearing shots, 3 in fast succession, when Williams lived there....did you get a look at that stump they removed from the backyard? It had bullet entry holes all over it.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
My original guess was:
"White male, younger,ex-Army, angry"
Turns out this suspect is (The father) is Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam...
So it wasn't:
A) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
B) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
C) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
D) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
Any reason why you specially picked up that Islam part Rip?
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didnt you hear that the chief said he had no relations to the snipering?
or is that just a ploy?
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They are saying that they are suspects now.
How about this... A black serial killer. Something new.
Also in Ripsnortish fashion I would like to point out that I predicted that the sniper might be a lone wolf sympathizer similar to the wacko at the EL AL counter at LAX.
(Also happening just in time, I am visiting DC in 3 weeks)
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Originally posted by Staga
So it wasn't:
A) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
B) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
C) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
D) Black, 41 yrs., ex-Army, gulf war vet, converted to Islam
Any reason why you specially picked up that Islam part Rip?
Yep, see a pattern with Islamics yet Staga? or does it need to hit home first?
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Depending on your bent, you could see a black pattern or an ex-army pattern...
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Incidently, my original post was proving how wrong I was in this case.
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Rip, you might not be wrong yet.
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Good to know that blacks, Ex-Army guys or Gulf-War veterans aren't committing any murders in U.S.
You would be a great "Profiler" :)
Okay... let me try again.
All those you did mention in your list could be potential suspects with motive thought you decided to wrote word Islam with bold letters.
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Originally posted by lazs2
"Can we wear bedsheets?"
rogwar... normally.... no, but these appear to be black people and lynching would be considered a "hate crime" so you might want to conceal your identity.
lazs
I made the bedsheet comment because there was lynching like talk going on here. All we can really do, and should do is support the criminal justice system in dealing with these characters.
I wish these Al Queda types would get the message we don't need extremist foreigners pulling shenanigans on US soil. We have enough homegrown wackos in our own backyard.
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Yes Staga, highlighted because Islamic religion is such a peaceful religion. ;)
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Originally posted by rogwar
All we can really do, and should do is support the criminal justice system in dealing with these characters.
is that the same "justice" system which O.J. was subject to?
lawyers, liberal judges and dumb bellybutton jurors = defenses "justice" system
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Sandman:
What is more likely as a possible motive for mass-murder:
Alleged "sniper" Muhammad murdered/terrorised because he is:
A. Black.
B. Ex-US Army.
C. As a follower of a "faith" that has leaders(such as that racist advocate of violence Louis Farrakhan and many others) preaching hate and death to "infidels" in the name of Allah, Muhammed took it upon himself to enter into his own private, twisted "jihad".
10 points for the correct answer........
Cabby
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Cabby, your asking a liberal to think intellectually. Come on! Thats like challenging one of Jerry's Kids to a foot race.
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Another victum of the "Black Experience" Airhead is so well versed in.
Sleep in a vehicle in Maryland with a .223 rifle while matching a description of the suspect, from Alabama where the snipers last message mentioned, with finger prints at a Alabama crime scene, and whitey comes down all over you.
He pry won't ever get to take those flight lessons now like that token Animal. :( If it's up to this lynch mob anyway.
And O.J. makes a slice at a golf course and these same sheet wearing bastards chuckle under their breath.
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LMFAO
] AKFreud AKFreud
thats the BEST AKNAME YET!:D
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This is nuts.. it's not about race or religion no matter what people try to make of it..
it's about a friggin whacko, of which this country has many, that decided to start capping civilians.
Public execution is warranted IMO.
(dunno about akfreud but the MAW stuff still cracks me up)
(I'm-a-goon-maw)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Cabby, your asking a liberal to think intellectually. Come on! Thats like challenging one of Jerry's Kids to a foot race.
Now there's an unbiased, intellectual view. I wanna be like that when I grow up.
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By the sounds of it, you guys are ready to execute this man because he's black and islamic.
I'm perfectly content to wait for the law enforcement agencies to collect the evidence, charge the man for the crime, and then put him to trial.
...but what the hell, justify your hate. Don't let me stop you.
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Originally posted by Cabby44
Sandman:
What is more likely as a possible motive for mass-murder:
Alleged "sniper" Muhammad murdered/terrorised because he is:
A. Black.
B. Ex-US Army.
C. As a follower of a "faith" that has leaders(such as that racist advocate of violence Louis Farrakhan and many others) preaching hate and death to "infidels" in the name of Allah, Muhammed took it upon himself to enter into his own private, twisted "jihad".
10 points for the correct answer........
Cabby
D. None of the above?
Could he just be mentally unbalanced? Possibly prone to psychotic outbursts? But then that wouldn' fit into your miopic little world view ... would it?
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Is he guilty? Highly probable. Will he be convicted? Again, highly likely. Does he deserve the death penalty? Since he gunned down innocents of all types, races, and ages he most definitely does. Will he get the death penalty? More than likely he won't. Now that he is off the streets, is he no longer dangerous? Unequivocally no! How would you like your son to be sentenced to prison for car theft and have to spend his time there in close proximity to this type of cold-blooded killer.
He'll more than likely kill in prison. If given a life sentence, he'll have nothing to lose by killing anyone who crosses him.
Regards, Shuckins
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
By the sounds of it, you guys are ready to execute this man because he's black and islamic.
LOL, there it is! Thank you sandman I WON A BET! :)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
D. None of the above?
Could he just be mentally unbalanced? Possibly prone to psychotic outbursts? But then that wouldn' fit into your miopic little world view ... would it?
another liberal voice making excuses for the nutbags
I don't care if he doesn't know his own name, if they tie him 100% to the killings - OFF WITH HIS HEAD - ASAP!!!!
Wait, I know, let's interview him, put him on 20/20 or 60 minutes, then he can get a book deal, give him medical treatment - therapy .... yea, lets keep him alive with YOUR tax dollars
If he were WHITE and CHristian I'd be screaming for his head just as loudly-you, the liberals, are the ones making it a race/religion thing as usual
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33 minutes old...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=4&cid=578&u=/nm/20021024/ts_nm/crime_shootings_hunt_dc
... a spokesman for Montgomery County, Maryland, said it was too soon to tie the pair definitively to the sniper killings. "People are jumping ahead. Give us time to do our job," he said, adding the two were being questioned in Rockville, Maryland, headquarters of the sniper task force.
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Originally posted by Eagler
another liberal voice making excuses for the nutbags
I don't care if he doesn't know his own name, if they tie him 100% to the killings - OFF WITH HIS HEAD - ASAP!!!!
Wait, I know, let's interview him, put him on 20/20 or 60 minutes, then he can get a book deal, give him medical treatment - therapy .... yea, lets keep him alive with YOUR tax dollars
If he were WHITE and CHristian I'd be screaming for his head just as loudly-you, the liberals, are the ones making it a race/religion thing as usual
Once again, you've jumped ahead. I don't think I've read a single post on this thread by any of the so called "liberals" that addresses the issue of punishment.
It's easy actually... I don't need an opinion. I can just wait for some rightwinger to post it for me.
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You'll note, Sandman and you other hand-wringing Liberals, that i used the words "alleged" and "private, twisted jihad".
I'm interested in establishing motive.
Listen, if the "leadership" continues to preach hate and death don't be surprised if the "un-balanced"(highly subjective)among your "faithful followers" take you up on it. And you, as the "leadership", share in the responsibility........
C.
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What we have here is follower of islam combining his constitutional right to a gun with his constitutional right to his religion. Its almost unavoidable.
His behavior was very terrorist like. Now we have an idea why.
Funny when I was trying to figure out what kind of gun the guy could use I was thinking of the old bullpup bushmaster 223 handgun that was developed for the USAF in the 70s. Turns out he was using a bushmaster. I dont know if its thier new bullpup(probably) or one of thier ar15 mods.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Another victum of the "Black Experience" Airhead is so well versed in.
Yeah right Creamo, that's it- by all means let's focus as much as we can on the fact the perp is African American and ignore the fact he was trying to extort ten million dollars to stop killing. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't he shoot people all across the racial, gender and age spectrum?
There are no excuses for murder Creamo, and personally I don't care what color, religion, or whatever this guy is- I'm glad he's off the street, I hope the investigating officers don't make any mistakes that might disqualify evidence and I hope he gets sentanced to the maximum penalty in a court of law.
Gee, what a bleeding heart liberal I am, huh? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Airhead
Gee, what a bleeding heart liberal I am, huh? :rolleyes:
What happened? You lose your sign? Maybe we need to get Tattoos!
-Sik
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Originally posted by Cabby44
I'm interested in establishing motive.
C.
The motive was extortion Cabby- they were asking for ten million dollars. Gee, that was in all the newsparers and on all the news channels- you must have missed it.
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The civilized part of me says "Give them a fair trial and, if convicted, punsh them to the maximum extent of the law." The part of me that is repulsed by the cowardly acts of these vermin wishes they had resisted arrest (unsuccessfully)...saving us the trouble. The father/brother/neighbor in me is just hoping these are the perps, and that it's over.
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How about this... A black serial killer. Something new.
There have been black serial killers, there were black men involved in serial murders in the US who were muslim. The whole Black Muslim Movement from its beginnings in the '30s has been wrapped in killing. Most of it directed with in their own group.
Do a search on the Zebra Killings in San Fransico in the '70s
Between late 1973 and mid-1974, the city of San Francisco was terrorized by the 'Zebra' serial killings carried out by followers of Elijah Muhammad. Reviving the original 1930's Nation teachings, the killers believed that godhood could be achieved by murdering non-blacks. For a 179-day period, the killers brutally assaulted, robbed, and sodomised a total of twenty-three persons, leaving fifteen dead.
From what I understand these 2 werent the well "trained" type that the media descrided nor is there any evidence that Islam or any religion played a part in these attacks.
The way the one guy is portrayed it sounds like he is a complete nutbag. I am against the death penalty but it may take some time until the full story is told. Each state will want a piece of them and the Frderal Government will stay out of the way to make sure death stays an option.
Anyway my point is that this is not a new thing. There have been black muslim serial killers and there have been other sniper murderers as well. Franklin the neo-nazi killed a bunch of folks.
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I was thinking of more what a T you are, but suit yerself air.
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You are correct Wotan, "New" was a poor choice of words. "Unusual" would have been better.
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Originally posted by Creamo
I was thinking of more what a T you are, but suit yerself air.
What's the matter Creamo, are you bored with attacking Ripsnort so now you're going to address your general nastiness towards me? LOL I don't know what a "T" is, but coming from you I'm sure it's an intended insult- likewise, coming from you the source is considered so it really doesn't bother me what you say.
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meat cleaving them or ripping their limbs or whatever would be satsfying, but it wouldn't equal the pain they have caused so it wouldn't be justice really - you'd need to execute 1000 people or more to equal the pain they've caused...
by leaving it to the courts and trying to stay civilized at least we have the moral highground and justify ourselves as their moral superiors. tossing him to the hoi polloi would only play good on al-jazeera prime time.
(though honestly, i would like 5 minutes alone with the sumsqueakes ;))
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Originally posted by Wotan
Do a search on the Zebra Killings in San Fransico in the '70s
Wow, that is madness. I can't believe that I've never heard of this before. Thanks Wotan.
-Sik
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It's the usual, let's do , so that he suffers for of days. That will show 'em. Seen it sooooo many times it's getting old.
Truth is, you wouldn't even have the guts to pick up the cleaver, nevermind chop off someone's hand off etc. The talk of blow-hards (same as in any bar, anywhere in the world) and if anyone actually challenges the notion of vigilante action and allowing the law to run its course then they are either cowards, liberal communist lesbian socialists or un-American. As far as I know, none of you have any direct interest in these sickening events apart from what you have seen on TV. You haven't lost loved ones, so lets drop the 'appropriate enraged response', just this once.
Jesus, it's enough to make you weep sometimes. The repetitiveness of it.
And can I just add I'm ever so glad to see cabby back with us on the boards. His perception of the world is a never-ending bounty of well-balanced enlightenment and if I ever meet the guy, I'd be sure to buy him drink...
...it would be vodka of course, because that's all us leftwing pinko communist socialist studmuffin foreigners drink. to an intellectual heavyweight!
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I couldn't do the meat clever either. Ghastly.
Firing Squad? You bet. I'd just need a samich if it went into the 4 hour union break rules.
Air, yes it does.
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Creamo, does not.
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I find it hard to believe that their motive for killing started out to be for money alone.
I think money came into the picture after the media mentioned it.
Maybe someday we will know for sure.
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These guys were not serial killers. They were terrorsts.
They may have been an orginzation of 2 but they set out to terrorise that city because it is the capital. They will not likly be found to have done this exept for the killings leading up to the washington ones. They trained in the back yard and came up with a simple elegent MO and stuck to it. The $10 mill sounds like an after thought. This religion seems to have the capability to self spawn self generating terror cells.
Indoctirnated enough to concieve of this and carry it out. Not indoctricated enough to scream JIHAD after every infidel went down.
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I have been dreading this since 9.11.
People have been carful with their adjectives, but it is fairly clear that this guy is a black Muslim. The potential for another series of racial riots simmers in the background.
I am old enough to remember the ones that happened in the 60's. They where serious stuff. I was over seas during the whole "burn, baby, burn" episode. But I followed it closely in print, and TV, when possible. Black snipers where picking off firemen, to stop them from putting out fires. The guard was rolling down the street, with machine gun mounted, vehicles.
It seems to me that this guy is just a nut job. If it had not been Islam. He would have found some other excuse to go off. But, if something like this happens again. We may be in for interesting times.
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Ok,you got 2 guys..1 shooter,1 spotter...Car with backseat presumably removed so shooter could crawl into position on the fly.
Hole in trunk for line of site and rife perch...
Car parks..driver spots and call out easiest target...
It was a "team" effort..........Sick......... .....
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I find a trend on this board rather disturbing. It seems people are more concerned (just like the media) with causing problems rather than fixing them. Some of you, in your never ending quests to find something wrong with everything, are, it seems, more upset with those who wish this individual to be drawn and quartered than with the "sniper" himself (I use the term sniper loosely because he is most certainly not a "sniper")
Somehow during the course of your efforts, you have forgetten that this individual actually went on a 3 week long rampage SHOOTING pedistrians as they loaded groceries or filled up their gas tanks. Obviously this person has a rather fragile pysche, what with being able to sleep at night and continue his behavior until caught, so lets not risk the possibily of offending him by refering to him as: A. Black. B. Muslim. or C. 41 years old.
For your viewing pleasure, Ive pasted an exerpt from a floor statement made by Representative Charles Norwood (R, 10th dist.) that sums up the rediculousness of this politically correct behavior quite nicely for my tastes. Enjoy.
"Political correctness is a bad thing under any situation. It prevents people from speaking the truth, sometimes of even looking for the truth, out of fear they will be smeared as racist, xenophobes, bigots, etc. This disease born of the political left has infected political leaders, teachers, researchers – and journalists. I am determined it will not infect me. The citizens of this district elected me to vote the way they would in Washington, and to tell them the truth, as best I can grasp it.
The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) has accused me of ignorance and racism, because I told the truth about protecting our nation. This is the kind of extreme political correctness that hamstrung the FBI from investigating the perpetrators of the attacks of September 11th, which led to the loss of over 3,000 innocent American lives. Their comments to this effect were printed in the Augusta Chronicle on August 2. The full context of the exchange was not. Here is the body of what I wrote, and we’ll see if it gets printed.
“Have you seen this email making its way around the Internet? While somewhat amusing, it makes a very poignant point.
‘Let's pause a moment and take the following test.
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
(a) A pizza delivery boy
(b) Pee Wee Herman
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day
(d) Arab Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
(a) The Smurfs
(b) Davy Jones
(c) The Little Mermaid
(d) Arab Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by:
(a) Captain Kid
(b) Charles Lindbergh
(c) Mother Teresa
(d) Arab Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.’
The test goes on through other recent terrorist incidents including: the kidnapping and massacring of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics, the 1979 takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Iran, the kidnapping of Americans in Lebanon in the 1980s, the 1988 bombing of Pan Am flight 103, the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, the 1998 bombing of the U.S embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and of course, ending with the attacks on September 11. Potential choices include Sitting Bull, Lost Norwegians, Elvis, Grandma Moses, and Scooby Doo. But the known culprit in every case is (d) Arab Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.
As I write this, The Washington Times is reporting that increased sensitivity to focusing on Arab males is hampering the FBI’s investigation of terrorism. Unbelievably, the report also states that a fear of being accused of racial profiling is what caused the FBI in Washington to not move forward with an investigation of Zacharias Massaoui, the “20th Hijacker,” which could have potentially uncovered the September 11th plot.
At our airports every day, children and 80-year-old women are stopped and frisked by security guards. Searching these people does virtually nothing to enhance security at our airports and simply creates delays for travelers. Have we gone completely nuts? There is commonsense and there is nonsense.
Commonsense tells us that we are fighting a war on terrorism mainly against Arab Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40. Nonsense is being so politically correct that we are afraid to say it.
If there were a 60-year-old, white, overweight,…gray-haired burglar roaming around my neighborhood in Evans, Georgia, I would expect the police to look twice at me. It only makes sense.
Is this to say that all Arab males between the ages of 17 and 40 are terrorists or that every terrorist is an Arab. Absolutely not!! I need only to point to Timothy McVeigh. Should we ignore suspicious activity by anyone not fitting this description? Absolutely not!!
But can we ignore that every terrorist on September 11 was an Arab male between the ages of 17 and 40? Can we ignore that Al Queda and the Taliban are almost universally comprised of Arab males and that they have sworn to strike us again? Do we have another enemy in the world like this? When our law enforcement has a lead about suspicious activity by an Arab male between the ages of 17 and 40 shouldn’t it be put at the top of the list, not the bottom?”
That’s the body of the issue; I’m leaving out the part where I ask for campaign donations. You’ll note that I specifically state that not all Arab males between 17 and 40 are terrorists, and that Arab Muslim male extremists are not the exclusive perpetrators of terrorism.
The August 2 Augusta Chronicle story states that Mr. Khalil E. Jahshan of the ADC takes offense at this letter, and points out that Iranians and Afghans are involved as well. Thank you Mr. Jashan, even though my letter alludes to the fact that others are involved, it is helpful that you specifically mention these other threats to America.
Now had the reporter done some journalistic research, he would have discovered that Mr. Jashan wears more than one hat. Here is what Mr. Jahshan had to say before Congress seven years ago when called to testify on terrorism:
“…groups like Fatah, Hamas, DFLP, and PFLP, some of which are designated as terrorist organizations in the President's executive order of January 24, 1995, engage in a host of educational, health, social and other humanitarian activities that are desperately needed in Palestinian society. Cutting off fund raising to the legitimate non-terrorist and non-violent activities of such groups will deprive Palestinian society of vital services that cannot easily be provided by the Palestine National Authority or any outside source at this time.” - STATEMENT OF Khalil E. Jahshan, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ARAB AMERICANS (NAAA), BEFORE THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE June 13, 1995
Mr. Jahshan argued for his groups to continue providing funds to Hamas. They have.
Research is hard work, so let’s try to make it easier. The reporter can read this on the front page of today’s Augusta Chronicle, his own paper:
“Early Friday, an El Al Israel Airlines plane reached New York, carrying the bodies of two of the five American victims of the Hebrew University bombing, in which seven people died and more than 80 were wounded Wednesday… The violent Islamic Hamas took responsibility for the bombing…” – Augusta Chronicle/Associated Press, Friday, August 2
Five more Americans civilians dead, at the hands of Muslim Middle East extremists. Please note I’m not saying all Muslims, certainly not the majority, or any that I know of in our community, who are some of our finest citizens and leaders, for whose past support I will forever be grateful. I’m also very conscious of the fact that many of our citizens of Muslim Middle East background are here precisely to get away from the insanity of groups like Hamas.
These were specifically Muslim Middle East Hamas terrorists, an organization funded by groups associated with Mr. Jahshan. I encourage this fellow and his organization to formally apologize for the role their financial support of terrorist organizations has played in the deaths of thousands of innocent men, women, and children of all nationalities and faiths.
I stand by my statement, I stand by my position, and I will continue to fight for the lives and safety of the people of this district and America. If that offends the sensitivities of anyone I advise them to vote accordingly, as their sensitivities are not worth a wooden nickel compared to the life of a single American sacrificed to political correctness. "
God bless this man for standing up against the seemingly endless wave of feel-good bandwagon roadkill.
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Islam is a religion of peace.
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Uh huh.
And I'm a bleeding heart liberal. ;)
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Funked you mean is Islam is a religion of pieces.
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T stands for da, and rhymes with ard, it's a silent T
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It took Kanth two posts to say that, but I guess demonstrating what it means is much better than explaining it, huh?
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So:
1. The gun matches
2. The car had a tripod, gun that was used in the killings and an opening to fire though the trunk while remaining hidden.
3. Fingerprints from GA liquor store killing match one of the guys
4. CC number same as lifted off GA victom
I'm still not the slightest bit swayed that these are the guys, until I see a nice T.V. trial that proves they did it.
Until then, these guys dont even raise my interest as being even remotely connected to the killings.
So, I'm with the Liberals on this: never think for a second that theses guys are the perps until a proper trial has swayed you believe so.
I mean, I would be wrong to even consider them as suspect until a proper trial.
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Originally posted by NUKE
So:
1. The gun matches
2. The car had a tripod, gun that was used in the killings and an opening to fire though the trunk while remaining hidden.
3. Fingerprints from GA liquor store killing match one of the guys
4. CC number same as lifted off GA victom
Ive seen/heard enough - exterminate them
don't spend one more tax dollar or waste one more breath of air on them both
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Yer right anyone who's ever had a double post is a tard.
maybe I'll misspell something later for you.
Originally posted by Airhead
It took Kanth two posts to say that, but I guess demonstrating what it means is much better than explaining it, huh?
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Originally posted by Eagler
Ive seen/heard enough - exterminate them
don't spend one more tax dollar or waste one more breath of air on them both
See... this is why you won't get on the jury.
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I think they might have the wrong guys here. I mean, they show this picture of these two guys and they're all smiling and happy and I just don't think two happy people like they are could be cold blooded killers. They look like cast members of "Fresh Prince" instead of killers-For all we know they're just two more down and out victims of racism in America who are struggling to be heard and some of you should be more sensitive to the struggles of being homeless in America- forced to sleep at rest stops, carrying guns to protect yourself from White America- and wrongly accused of being snipers.
All the evidence the authorities have is circumstancial from the fingerprints at the scene of the Alabama murders to the positive balistics test on the seized Bullpup, and I'm sure a good attorney will be able to explain away fingerprint evidence, handwrighting analysis and eyewitness accounts and manage to prove to a jury that this is one more case of the police hanging a crime on a convient black man whose only crime was sleeping at a rest stop with his step son. I hope justice will be served and I personally believe the true sniper is the same person that killed Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.
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According to MSNBC, the ballistics match those of the sniper deaths.
(cough)
http://msnbc.com/news/816566.asp
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Got a dollar that says the kid gits a slap on the wrist. And Mohomad get a free pass to the funny farm. Kill one or two. You are a murderer. Kill a toejam load. Your crazy.
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Kill a whole BIG toejamload, youre a hero.
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No way Easymo, these guys will never see a day's freedom in their lives- I'll take that bet. You don't do watermelon like this and walk no matter who is your defense attorney, especially since 9-11.
In fact the question now is what juristiction will sentance them to death first and just which form of capital punishment will be used- gas chamber, lethal injection or electrocution. They qualify for all three. Smart money now says it's lethal injection, but personally I hope it's electrocution. Ever since that scene in "The Green Mile" where they fried that dude the el;ectric chair is my personal favorite form of capital punishment.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
See... this is why you won't get on the jury.
Seeing as I recieved a jury summons just today, can I cite your disqualification of my abilities on my juror questionaire if I agree with Eagler?
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Getting the summons is just the first hoop...
The lawyers tend to frown upon people that walk in unable listen to all of the evidence before passing judgement.
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The INS already let lee malvo go once. He is an illegal alien (big surprise :(). They will probably get him to testify against the other guy. Then deport him.
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If only they would believe me I'd tell em now.
If it's a criminal case I find guilty. If it's a suit I find for the defendant, with punative damages to the plaintiff's representation of $32 billion for wasting my time.
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Originally posted by Fatty
If only they would believe me I'd tell em now.
Are you a white male?
Buh bye.
No, seriously. Not to take any ultra-conservative Eagler or Cabby stance, but the chances that you'd be summarily dismissed without justification would go way up for those very reasons, like it or not, no matter what you tell the defense.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
See... this is why you won't get on the jury.
hehe
you are right, you have to bite ur tongue when you are there for jury duty
first time defense lawyer asked if anyone thought the mexican the DEA arrested hauling a semi full of mary jane was guilty based on the open statements, when I, only me, raised my hand, I was jerked outa the jury box :)
next time I keep my mouth shut, though I felt the same way, was picked and helped get a crank pusher thrown in jail :)