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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: hblair on October 25, 2002, 08:47:50 AM
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FSU and Notre Dame for one. I'm for looking Notre Dame to win. Is the gameday crew gonna at this one?
And for us SEC guys, Alabama/Tennesee should be a good game. Gonna be at Neyland this year. Maybe bama can pull it off.
Any other big games goin on?
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You can look all you want, hb. :) You ain't gonna find what you're looking for though.
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You lied to me!
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gotta go for FSU on this one
strange how the 6th placed (undefeated) team is a 12 point underdog to the 13th placed team :)
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prolly had something to do with the 13th place team almost (and should have) beating the #1 team in the nation AT their house the last time out.
and it's in Tally. :)
It's gonna be wild when Corso makes his pick on GameDay right before kickoff. :D
wow, 25 hrs away and I'm already getting excited!
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#1 team i Oklahoma! WTG! (not human poll, but computer one, you know, the one that decides the bowl games :D )
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
#1 team i Oklahoma! WTG! (not human poll, but computer one, you know, the one that decides the bowl games :D )
Only until #2 crushes them :)
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Man, sometimes I think I've completely lost my mind. I meant to type FSU as the winner. I wasn't even joking. I need a vacation.
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Rip, BCS standings mean very little at this time of year. The computer rankings won't really make sense until more games are played, especially with no margin of victory input into the games.
Strength of schedule at this point doesn't really say much. Oklahoma benefited from playing Texas and Iowa State back to back at this point. Miami has played FSU and Florida so far, but Florida's problems are hurting Miami's schedule. Miami gets their "Texas" come December when they play Va Tech.
Also, Notre Dame has the top schedule and FSU has the 3rd. This means Miami's schedule strength part that comes from opponent's opponents will get a bit stronger. If FSU beats ND, Miami should close the gap on Oklahoma in the computer polls. If Penn St beats OSU, Miami will also close the gap. Same if Kentucky beats Georgia. If Tennessee beats Alabama, it will slightly affect Oklahoma now, and slightly help Miami come November when they play the Vols.
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strength of schedule... baaaah!
The Pac10 may be the toughest league in the nation and they continue to be discounted by the Eastern press weeeeenies!
Go Bruins
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Two words for you
GO DAWGS
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Maybe UCLA can lose their third in a row...:D
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Ouch...
Well the Ducks (ranked #7?) got lucky, and the Golden Bears ... well they spanked us, but Stanford's goin down baby!
Put a "State" somewhere in the name though and we are tough!
Beat
Oklahoma St.
Colorado St.
San Diego St.
Oregon St.
Maybe this doesn't bode well for the Stanford game.
WTH... Beat Stanford State!
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Sorry MT, "strength of schedule" is nothing more than wins and losses. It has nothing to do with who you are playing, just what their record is and their opponent's record (2/3 opponents and 1/3 opponent's opponents.)
It has nothing to do with a subjective ranking of teams.
East Coast bias by the media? HA! Go check the rankings from the end of last year. Hell, dig up the thread from last year if you can where I said the same thing I'm saying right now. Oregon was ranked #2 in both voting polls at the end of last year. Yup, the MEDIA and the coaches (or whoever voted for that coach) had Oregon as the team to play Miami.
Let's see what happened. Miami was the clear #1. Nebraska was 4th in both. So before the computers came in, Oregon had a 2 point lead for the #2 spot. (Oregon also had a 1 point lead over Colorado.)
Computer scores are next. Nebraska had a 2.17 avg (throw out highest and lowest score then avg the remaining 6), Colorado had 4.50 and Oregon had 4.87. Nebraska is now in the lead with 6.17 to Oregon's 6.87 and Colorado's 7.50.
Why did this happen? 4 polls used margin of victory and 4 didn't. The 4 that did had Nebraska 2, 3, 2, 2 and Oregon 8, 7, 6, 7. those that didn't were Neb 2, 2, 2, 3 Ore 3, 3, 3, 2. It's obvious that margin of victory is what propelled Nebraska over Oregon at this point. Avg the 4 that did NOT use MOV and you have Neb 2.25 and Oregon 2.75, which would have left Oregon with a 1.5 point advantage. Col would have had a 4.25 from their 4 non MOV scores, so Oregon would have opened a 2.5 lead on Colorado.
We move on to "schedule strength." Once again, objective wins and losses. Neb 14, Col 2, Ore 31. Gives 0.56, 0.08 and 1.24 points. We now add in losses. Neb lost 1, Col 2 and Ore 1. scores are now Neb 7.73, Col 9.58 and Ore 9.07.
Lastly the quality win component. Neb beat Oklahoma for a -0.5. Colorado beat Nebraska and Texas for a -2.3. Oregon beat Wash and Wash St for -0.4.
Final scores 7.23 Neb, 7.28 Col and 8.67 Oregon.
If you remove the four MOV computers, you'd have gotten 7.31 for Neb, 7.03 for Col and 6.55 for Oregon.
Conclusion? There was no East Coast media bias or East Coast bias at all that slighted Oregon last year. It was margin of victory in 4 computer polls that did it. It also did it to Miami when FSU went to the Orange Bowl after the 2000 season instead of Miami (caveat here is that Miami would have gone if the quality win component was in effect in 2000.)
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Roll Tide Roll!!!!
Vols are going down.
prediction-
bama- 28
vols- 24
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Oh Yeah!
well....
Let me just......
How about.....
aaaaaahhhhh! Buncha Eastern computers!
:cool:
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A man from Tennessee goes into a sports bar in Tuscaloosa and orders a beer.
The bartender, noticing the man is the only one not wearing an obnoxious red shirt, red pants, and red shoes, says, “You ain’t from around here are ya?”
“No, I’m from Tennessee.”
As the bar goes suddenly quiet, the bartenders asks, “Well, what do you do up there in Tennessee?”
“I’m a taxidemist,” the Tennessean answeres.
“A taxiwho?”
“It means I mount animals,” explains the man.
“Don’t worry boys,” yells the bartender, “He’s one of us!”
Tennessee 21
Bama 17
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I would gladly cheer for Tennessee if you promised to never, ever, ever sing Rockytop again.
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I three finger pick Rocky Top on my Mastertone 5-String....
(lets loose with an Appalachian version of the Texas yee-hah)
:D
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The streak ended. Was getting scarey. Another 7 straight wins and the vols would have tied the series. Myelo, the vols are the ones who have the hillbilly action going. ;)
Did clausen really say he could have beaten georgia with one arm?
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Originally posted by hblair
Did clausen really say he could have beaten georgia with one arm? [/B]
Sure did, but I think he meant he could have beaten Jim Bob Cooter off. No one is gonna touch the Dawgs this year, Nat'l Champ here we come. BTW that is truely the name of the back up QB at Tenn. Jim Bob Cooter
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Yaaaay Golden Dome
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Go Bruins
LMFAO!!!!!!
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Oklahoma gets no respect. They struggled early in the season, but are playing stronger and stronger by the game. They are the best coached team in the country, with the best and quickest defense.
If Oklahoma wins out, they will finish the season #1, regardless of what the other teams do. The math has be done. I truly hope OU has a chance to play Miama for the National Championship so they can beat that bellybutton even though no one gives them a chance. Kidna reminds me of a coulpe years ago with the Florida ST./OU game ... and we all know how that ended up.
Nim
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Nimmy, have you heard any reason why OU wants out of the bama game? I was looking forward to OU coming to tuscaloosa next year but I heard they bought their way out of it. Is that true?
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Hmmmmmm I dunno!? I havent heard a thing about it. THat would really surprise me. Stoops is a class-guy, cannot imagine why he would back out of a game ilke that.
Whats your source?
Nim
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Congrats hblair, ammo. I wish Tennessee could have made it more of a game.
Originally posted by hblair
Did clausen really say he could have beaten georgia with one arm?
Yep. He was mostly venting his frustration at not being able to play. But it was a bad thng to say, unless your team is a whole lot better than they are.
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Originally posted by Mathman
LMFAO!!!!!!
To the tune of that other schools fight song.....
Fight On
For Old SC
Pay your fee
Get your degree
And if you go
To old SC
That means your not
As good as me
da dum da dum da da
da dum da dum da da
(que the white mule)
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And lest we not forget that song for that "other school"
High up in the hills of Westwood
Sprawled offensive to the eye
Lies a Cal extension campus
Known as Westwood High
High
High
High
When we all go out to Westwood
Bruins are so gay
Their campus is a pile
The student body is vile
and their football team's a shame
U
G
L
Y
U G L Y eat my shorts!
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Originally posted by Fatty
I would gladly cheer for Tennessee if you promised to never, ever, ever sing Rockytop again.
its pronounced "rockyflop":)
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Myelo,
Looking forward to next year already man.
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Originally posted by aknimitz
Hmmmmmm I dunno!? I havent heard a thing about it. THat would really surprise me. Stoops is a class-guy, cannot imagine why he would back out of a game ilke that.
Whats your source?
Nim
I first heard it from a friend of mine. I heard the announcers on the alabama-vandy game today say that OU withdrawing from the bama game was "just about a done deal". Something about they wanted to make their non-conference schedule less difficult. That's what they said anyway. You heard anything?