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Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Wlfgng on October 25, 2002, 03:48:31 PM
all I can say is     YES!!!


shouldn't be able to hind behind 'age' when one pulls crap like that.

public execution...
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: easymo on October 25, 2002, 04:54:27 PM
I remember all the terrible things people where predicting would happen to taleban johnny.  In the end they arranged for tax payers to house, and feed him.  Also it turns out he is gay.  So this is about the equivalent of one of us being sent to a woman's prison.  Oh! The horror.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: midnight Target on October 25, 2002, 05:01:42 PM
The older guy (Williams?) has a history of taking children and step children from his former spouses (2) and making them eat very little and go on strict excersize regimes. One former wife reported that her son (different kid) lost 30 lbs. while staying with Mr. Williammuhammedsniper.

Just sayin, that they better be very careful with the adult treatment of this 17 year old, because he seems to be building a pretty credible defense already.

I think they should cut him a deal for life in prison to make him turn on his step dad. Get them both for sure that way.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Wlfgng on October 25, 2002, 05:03:46 PM
that makes it even more disturbing IMO

they should definately separate them (I'm sure they did)
and the young'n will prolly turn
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: easymo on October 25, 2002, 05:11:19 PM
"Just sayin, that they better be very careful with the adult treatment of this 17 year old, because he seems to be building a pretty credible defense already. "

I never fails to amaze me.  What lefties consider credible.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: OIO on October 25, 2002, 05:13:50 PM
sry, 17 is wayyyy more than enough age to know that rifle+shooting 13 year olds is wrong.

IF he really is guilty (as far as i know they havent proven they are the snipers), then I say shoot him in the head and be done with it.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: midnight Target on October 25, 2002, 05:17:30 PM
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Originally posted by easymo
"Just sayin, that they better be very careful with the adult treatment of this 17 year old, because he seems to be building a pretty credible defense already. "

I never fails to amaze me.  What lefties consider credible.


Nice try easymo, but you and I both remember the OJ jury. You think "brainwashed by dad" isn't likely to get him off? They just better be careful is all I'm saying.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Wlfgng on October 25, 2002, 05:23:38 PM
all due to our wonderful justice system that gives more protection to criminals rights than the victim's
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: SirLoin on October 26, 2002, 09:19:22 AM
And now they are saying they are not going to seek the death penalty because he is a juvinile...What wonderful solace for the victim's families.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Airhead on October 26, 2002, 11:05:24 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
And now they are saying they are not going to seek the death penalty because he is a juvinile...What wonderful solace for the victim's families.


Sir Loin, you are taking that out of context and you know it- Maryland doesn't execute minors, they're trying them first so Maryland won't seek the death penalty- however, Alabama, Virginia and the Feds are lining up on this one too, and you can damn well bet one of them, Alabama most likely, will seek the death penalty when it's their turn to try them.

Now a question- This 17 year old kid was kept on a diet of honey and food supplements which makes me wonder at the amount of control Mr. Mohammad had over him. Could there be a possible extenuating circumstance like we had in the Patricia Hearst case, or do you believe the 17 year old went along with this sniper plan on his own free will? A decent attorney will raise these questions to a jury, ya know.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Sandman on October 26, 2002, 11:12:25 AM
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Originally posted by OIO
sry, 17 is wayyyy more than enough age to know that rifle+shooting 13 year olds is wrong.
 


True... but Muhammed has had a few years to work on his head.

I think MT is right. The defense will no doubt attempt to shift the blame to the older man.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: SaburoS on October 27, 2002, 12:41:12 AM
I predict they'll both get the death sentence... and they'll both be executed in about 10-20 years depending on the appeals. If they were wealthy they might be able to hire a legal team that would have the resources to find 'loopholes' and 'sanity' issues. They won't get that and I doubt their jury will want anything other than the death penalty for both of them when they're found guilty. Won't be that long of a trial either.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: lazs2 on October 27, 2002, 09:59:37 AM
did it take twenty years for tim mcveigh to be executed?
lazs
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Maverick on October 27, 2002, 01:53:55 PM
Last I heard the "kid" wasn't really related to mohamed at all. Not a formal relationship. Neither his son or stepson nor adopted.

The age of this murderer is not an issue here. The victims are still dead and there is no reason to wherehouse these felons. This "person" was old enouigh to aid and abet, if not actively shoot some of the victims, so he should not be held unaccountable for his actions.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: Airhead on October 27, 2002, 02:16:53 PM
But Maverick, what if it turns out the cops framed them like the LAPD did to OJ Simpson? You know how the police are. ;)

I'm starting a defense fund for John Lee Malvo and I'm looking for telephone solicitors to help with the fund raising. This will be an ideal opportunity for guys like Maverick, Lazs or Creamo to sharpen their people skills and make some extra income. If anyone is intrested let me know.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: funkedup on October 27, 2002, 08:24:01 PM
If the bullets don't fit, we must acquit.
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: SaburoS on October 27, 2002, 11:45:05 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
If the bullets don't fit, we must acquit.


LOL  good one :)
Title: sniper teen to be tried as adult
Post by: SaburoS on October 27, 2002, 11:48:36 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
did it take twenty years for tim mcveigh to be executed?
lazs

Nope, Tim Mcviegh waved all his rights of appeals. He didn't want to delay the inevitable. Very rare for the condemed criminal to not use up their legal appeals.