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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: ergRTC on October 26, 2002, 05:48:50 PM
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Somethings rotten in the ct. Is it the recent late model plane sets? Most of the guys are quite civil.
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and your point is?
3 people gangbang someone and then want sympathy when they are (all 3) shot down?
I side with the guy who was ganged. I say well done shane if it was indeed 3 on 1.
Sounds to me like you are trying to be high and mighty by saying the CT isnt the place for this sort of thing as its more of a sporting arena? (less confrontational than MA?)
well id suggest you stop gang banging and practice what you are trying to preach here :)
unless shane is just making excuses for losing i cant see whats wrong here personally.
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heh. exactly. the *only* difference bewteen the CT and MA is the specialized planesets (and the neat terrains and skins).
the *people* are very much the same. it's a mini-MA (albeit with less emphasis on landgrab/reset - depending on setup, plus the fact it'll pork the arena) with all that entails ack running, ganging, milking and riding some high horse when you get called on it.
I find it very amusing to poke, prod and otherwise get under the skin of lamers who are trying to take some supposed moral high ground when none exists.
actually last nite was very fun (the screen shot is from this afternoon), odds were even, and even if i got cherried or momentarily in a 2 on me, i didn't go off on ch 1... furballs... no biggie...
what this dweebs fail to understand is that you act like a a typical MA dweeb, I'll call you on it. there's noooo reason whatsoever, other than inherent individual dweebiness, that the CT should be a mini-MA, but... players are what make an arena - don't kill the messenger (at least don't gang him).
you receive what i get. that simple. don't like it, don't do it. why don't you dweebs *make* the CT better place the better place you're claiming it to be.
til then, have a nice cup of STFU or make use of the TA ------->
:D
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Very sad that we now have to .squelch 1 in the CT. Still, can't be helped.
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Originally posted by Miska
Very sad that we now have to .squelch 1 in the CT. Still, can't be helped.
squelching ch 1 won't improve your style of play - but it might protect your tender sensibilities. snork.
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mmmm love CT "coolness"
two axis (knits) were working on milking and capturing......
wait for it....
a neutral (rook) base - A18.
guess who?
eskimo (no surprise here) and tack.
bravo!!! WTG!!! Teach me how to be so cool!!!!
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Ya know, when I get ganged I figure it is my own darn fault for either wading in where I shouldn't have or for being such a lousy stick I couldn't finish off the one before help showed up.
I also seem to get over it long before I come here to post about it.
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well when numbers are low... don't you think it's a little counter productive? or if the sides are lop-sided?
you guys are soooo stuck staying inside the box.
and repeating the good old - and totally tired - MA standby retorts.
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Originally posted by Shane
mmmm love CT "coolness"
two axis (knits) were working on milking and capturing......
wait for it....
a neutral (rook) base - A18.
guess who?
eskimo (no surprise here) and tack.
bravo!!! WTG!!! Teach me how to be so cool!!!!
When I logged on, our only front-line base had its FH down, so I upped in an IL-2 to defend it. As best I could, I tried to chase them away. The faster "Axis" planes beat me to it.
Someone called for help at 18. It looked like a good new place for a new front-line fight. I'm too impatient to fly from rear bases, so I ditched at sea to help.
I upped a jet from 33 to cap/vulch it. I circled it for 5 or 10 minutes hoping to get a vulch or two, the ack was down. I got bored and landed at 18 to get a jabo.
I then re-upped in a heavy El-Gay-Seven. Two minutes later Shanehole points out that it was neutral, which I apreciate because I honestly didn't know it was. Most CT maps have only one or two neutral bases way up in a corner.
I was hoping to start a new fight up North. I could care less if someone wants to capture a neutral base, but with no chance of starting a fight, I prefered to ditched my El-Gay-Seven as soon as I confirmed that it waas neutral.
OK, so I miss-read the map.
Leave it to Shanehole to make a big federal case over it and whine, complain, and post it on the BB.
Get a life Shane.
Meanwhile, Shanehole has been his usual whiney self all day long.
Hehe, he even complained when "He tried to save me, and I didn't help him out quick enough" I was in a JET! LOL! Like I needed saving! I was in a 262 at about 5K, draggin a same speed stang at 1.4. He dove in, got anchored, and blamed me, lol.
Hey, I really appreciate all those 6-calls that you gave the enemy everytime you saw me bounce one after that.
Now THAT's cool!
Shane, you are such a total LOSER!
(But you still make me laugh!)
eskimo
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yeah right, you and tack were working that base for a while... i find it hard to believe someone with your rank and skills could misread a map like that.
beside there were like, oh, maybe 8-10 people on and you trying to start a fight goes counter to the way i've seen you play. you're not above milking, that's a proven fact.
as for giving the guys who had just upped from a base and were typing while you swoop down in your l33t 262 to bounce them... well consider that "sportsmanship" something seriously lacking in the CT despite all the cries that the CT is a "civil" place.
you whiney babies get all huffy puffy when people call out your lameness - i'm not your typical accept lameness as SOP business as usual in silence type. you must feel real special to sit up above the other guys with another 262 buddy and boom and zoom until you finally manage to get a kill then run home and land.
as for the 51 on you, i didn't know what it was, or what you were until you told me after i had already killed the 51. notice i at least made an effort to assist, something you won't even do at all i expect no less from you or several other dweebs in CT. doesn't bother me in the slightest because i know i can still give a good show even when ganged - that's one way to get better, but it does get tiring after a while, i mean... 2 on 1 is hard enough, but 3,4,5 on 1... simply silly given the usuall small numbers in CT, so is vulching for vulching's sake. counter-productive... look at what happens on ch1...
you hope i play nice on ch1... all i have to say is, i don't come in mouthing off, i don't get all huffy in furballs with multiple cons from each side, i rarely even pop off about 2 on 1's...
i will comment on dweebiness when it expresses itself. sorry if that hurts your widdle feewings.
stupidly, i expected CT to be a cut above the MA... it's not.
so it's just the MA with different scenery. you reap what you sow.
i find you all more amusing than the MA dweebs... you get all nice and huffy puffy when someone upsets your little world. NOTAM: it's not anyone's little world. There are no different, superior or "civil" rules in the CT. stick that in your manifold and suck it down.
why don't *you* start a movement to actually make the CT a better place... hell, you'll even find me on that bandwagon. so how about stepping up?
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Perk Shane :D
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So Shanetard, you insult everyon'e ability at doing anthing, (especially me), yet you think I could never make a mistakereading a map? Especially when its the first map with such a big neutral country/section, making it as red as the enmy?
You admitedly misread a situation yourself (not knowing that I was a 262).
I flew by you just a few minutes after you pointed out that 18 was Rook. I believe I was within Icon range of you when it wa captured. I made one sortie in a 262, into Rook teritory, and never fired a round. A 262 is worthless for milkrunning, its scored as a fighter only, any jabo work you do in only hurts your score.
As far as assisting YOU goes, why should I?
Why should anyone?
As far a the 262 goes, I fly it like a 262 should be flown, B+Z with an energy advantage. I'm not good enough with it to same E-state furball against better turning fighters. I never claimed to be either.
In fact I've never claimed to be anygood with any E-fighter at an equal energy state as my enemy(s).
I turnfight in turnfighters, I B+Z in E-fighters. So what?
Who get huffy in the CT?
I don't see it except in regards to your keyboard.
Never-the-less, your still a whiney, excuse-making, cry-baby, bratty, trash-talking, mongo-ego, attention-starved, no-life, dork.
(But I still find you amusing)
Shane, the only thing that sucks in the CT is you. You have the personality of a turd.
eskimo
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The biggest problem in the CT is you shane.
I log onto the side with least players and then I squelch you.
You show no respect for anyone. Most people just want to have fun but you want to try and make sure that they either play the game your way or have no fun.
Try and get rid of that chip thats on your shoulder and gain some respect from the player base. You have great flying skill, you need to work on your people skills.
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Ditto ygsmilo.
I think Shane's attitude towards other people is the problem, not his skills (or lack of) in dealing with them. He'll never gain respect from the community without first displaying some for us.
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I don't like profanity and I don't play games to be berated by folks who think their perhaps superior ability IN THIS GAME gives them the right to be anything but civil. Recognizedly there are times when I lose my perspective and get chuffed but I try to take a deep breath and give a
and shrug it off. It's frankly not worth getting twisted up as this is something I do for fun, right?
I have found a marked lack of what I would call abusive behavior in the CT and really enjoy it for that very reason. Of late, there have been some times when I have logged on to find folks being less than civil. That's a shame. There's enough crap going on in this world already. If we are logging on to have a good time let's treat folks like we would treat a friend. I think that makes a whole lot of sense don't you?
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Originally posted by eskimo2
You admitedly misread a situation yourself (not knowing that I was a 262).
I turnfight in turnfighters, I B+Z in E-fighters. So what?
Shane, the only thing that sucks in the CT is you. You have the personality of a turd.
eskimo
lol, pray tell how i could know you're in a 262? i use normal icons. you're reaching here. you are a milking dweeb - don't deny it. and no, you don't fly any other way than in the safest way possible - not that there's anything wrong with that, but don't tryand claim to more than you are.
i love it when simps like you get all hoity-toity. methinks you doth protest too much. hmmmm?
as for the rest of you sheep whinging about "respect"... you reap what you sow. i don't see you decrying the lame gameplay. you go to CT to "avoid" the MA stuff, yet you persist in furthering MA style of play. bunch of over-sensitive milquetoasts, living proof of the peter principle.
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Originally posted by Shane
lol, pray tell how i could know you're in a 262? i use normal icons. you're reaching here. you are a milking dweeb - don't deny it. and no, you don't fly any other way than in the safest way possible - not that there's anything wrong with that, but don't tryand claim to more than you are.
i love it when simps like you get all hoity-toity. methinks you doth protest too much. hmmmm?
as for the rest of you sheep whinging about "respect"... you reap what you sow. i don't see you decrying the lame gameplay. you go to CT to "avoid" the MA stuff, yet you persist in furthering MA style of play. bunch of over-sensitive milquetoasts, living proof of the peter principle.
Duh, the fact that I was going about 450 and he wasn't gaining. And the fact that I had been flying the 262 all day.
I was making a large left hand turn, letting the stang cut inside my turn, but keeping him at 1.4. I was burning off his E and changing my extention direction from North to West. It was obvious that I was not in trouble.
I am a dweeb yes, but I wasn't milk running cause I didn't know 18 was neutral, why else would I bring a 262 to a neutral base and not fire a round?
You do recall that when 18 was captured and you started whining about it, that I had just flown past you?
Why you even care so much about milkrunning is beyond me. I could care less if someone wants a neutral base, it just wasn't action packed enough for me.
As far a safe flying goes, whatever dude.
Just last week I engaged you a few times. I was in a 202, you were flying a P-40. Every time I was on the attack and was outnumbered. I recall fighting 1 v 3 against you and others, by my choice.
To say I always fly safe is absurd.
Folks who fly the CT regularly know I do a bit of everything. When it comes to de-acking, I am usually the first in. I regularly engage multiple cons.
Yesterday about 1/3 of my 262 kills were HO's. I had 3 ground vulches on fully ack-up bases. I made at least 10 kills/or/attempts at air to air bounces after take off diveing through the ack at A-3. I've taken several hits from CV ack and have lost 1 or 2 262s to CV ack. Far from safe.
What in the world are you refering to by my "claiming to be more than I am?" I don't claim much. Perhaps you get confused because you claim so much about yourself that you forget who's talking... LOL.
eskimo
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Shane, it is so obvious to everyone how desperate you are for respect. The sad thing about you is that you are too socially retarded to realize how little respct folks have for you. Players have more respect for newbies than you, and your too stupid to realize why. You are obviously a very frustrated person, and all that you know to do about your lack of respect is to continue being a trash-talking turd. Like maybe if you keep making the same social mistakes even louder and more often, things will get better.
Sad, sad, sad.
Man, it must really suck to be you. Sad, lonely, angry, and socially too stupid to know what to do about it.
Your really a sad excuse for a person, but like I said, your very amusing.
eskimo
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Hehehe Shane. You are a hoot. If pissing people off makes you happy well, I'm glad it's an isolated issue. As to this:
"... bunch of over-sensitive milquetoasts, living proof of the peter principle..."
Frankly, there mere fact that you somehow see this pursuit as a proxy for the actual worth of an individual speaks volumes. Competence in a GAME bodes little. Pity those that think otherwise.
Please lighten up or at the very least lose the profanity.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I am a dweeb yes, but I wasn't milk running cause I didn't know 18 was neutral, why else would I bring a 262 to a neutral base and not fire a round?
You do recall that when 18 was captured and you started whining about it, that I had just flown past you?
To say I always fly safe is absurd.
eskimo
i dunno, maybe because tack annouced that both radar and acks were down at 18, you ran over hoping to get in some vulches in that 262, lol.
maybe you got embarrassed by my frequent commentary on ch2 about "milking" going on up that way.
i like how you position the task groups right samck in the middle bewteen 2 bases, especially after i was trying to get them out of the way off to the side. guess you really need them acks close by, ironic the very ship *you* put in those spots as allied, whacked you as axis. delicious irony.
yeah, you're a pretty timid flyer . and a milker... even worse... a rank weenie... in CT... lol. but shrug, you fly your way and don't be surprised if i remark on lameness when i see it.
you wanna try and use "personal" lame insults instead of just insulting playing styles... how's this? you're a pathetic wimp who's so far down the food chain you try and use your weak gaming abilities in the CT to compensate for what *you* lack when you step outside your door. i love it when lamers like you try and take the insults beyond one's ability to play the game. shows that you have nothing to go by so you have to resort to some perceived real-life diagnosis and puffery.
lol... you're a fun squeaktoy.
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Originally posted by Corwin
"... bunch of over-sensitive milquetoasts, living proof of the peter principle..."
Frankly, there mere fact that you somehow see this pursuit as a proxy for the actual worth of an individual speaks volumes. Competence in a GAME bodes little. Pity those that think otherwise.
Please lighten up or at the very least lose the profanity.
uhhh, doctor, if you're trying to apply that comment to anything other than the *game* i suggest you ask for a refund of the postage stamp it took to get that degree. i don't judge people by what i cannot see, i.e. real life, i only judge them and their game play by what they show in the *game.* so far i'm being mostly shown, by the same old tired seals, not much.... except lame dweebry. seeing the same old tired retreads posting here about it too, funny how they're often the same lamers *in* the arena.
as for profanity... very rarely do i even used masked profanity, stop trying to make it seem more than it really is.
now in a prior post i did exactly that, played the "real-life" card on eskimo... if you have any intelligence i think you can see the context it was used in. here's a quarter... diagnose eskimo for me, will ya, being the impartial person that you are.
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"You show no respect for anyone. "
I've never seen Shane badmouth ME :)
Then again, I don't fly the same way in the CT as I do in the MA.
J_A_B
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What do you guys think? Hits the nail on the head?
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my perspective of the average CT lamer.
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Shane ain't getting enough at home. That's why he comes here for attention.
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Originally posted by -Concho-
Shane ain't getting enough at home. That's why he comes here for attention.
that's been used... pay attention.
sigh can't you guys at least be creative? or is that beyond the reach of your meager abilities? man, you guys play on the bbs like you do in the CT.... in gangs.... and weakly...
i suppose to be able to think outside of the box, one must first be capable of thought.
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Shane, you do understand what this is about right? We dont really care if you are a good pilot, a bad pilot, fly alone, or fly in a large group. You can even vulch fields if you like. Your flight behavior is not a problem, and niether is anyone elses.
The problem, as I posted above, is your inability to stop whining. That is all. Whenever you get shot, or feel you are at a disadvantage, you start throwing out excuses and bad mouthing the other guys flying. So until they add a permenant squelch list, please control yourself. It is about like trying to enjoy your favorite passtime with a spoiled 3 yr old yelling in your ear. Of course after the first crying I remember to squelch you, but it would be easier on everybody if you just learned to control yourself.
Whatever psychological problems you have-- which obviously there are plenty -- you should keep to yourself. Perhaps someone here can help you. http://www.apa.org/
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Originally posted by ergRTC
The problem, as I posted above, is your inability to stop whining. That is all. Whenever you get shot, or feel you are at a disadvantage, you start throwing out excuses and bad mouthing the other guys flying. So until they add a permenant squelch list, please control yourself.
i've been shot down plenty of times without a word.
no tardlet, what you fail to understand is simply that being lame will get you called lame by me. get this thru your pinhead and things will be just dandy.
here's a nice link for you and your ilk. http://www.vulch.cwc.net/acm.html#individ
and after you check that out... try using the TA until you get good enough to come back in the CT and not lose from an advantgeous situation.
lol @ common lamers like you.
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The worst thing is that he does this to everyone, even newbies. It's hard enough on newbies that they get shot down a lot by almost everyone, but to be insulted afterwards is just pathetic. Why would they ever want to play AH after they have been bad-mouthed by Shanehole? Countless times I have seen Shane insult players who's names I have never heard before.
How much business has HTC lost to the likes of Shane?
I know that several times regular players have left the CT because of him.
How much have CT numbers been at least slightly hurt by his attitude?
Very often the majority of CT channel 1 text is either Shane being a butthole, or others trying to encourage him to cool it.
As amusing as Shane is to some of us, he is clearly bad business for HTC and the CT.
eskimo
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Originally posted by eskimo2
The worst thing is that he does this to everyone, even newbies. Countless times I have seen Shane insult players who's names I have never heard before.
How much business has HTC lost to the likes of Shane?
I know that several times regular players have left the CT because of him.
How much have CT numbers been at least slightly hurt by his attitude?
As amusing as Shane is to some of us, he is clearly bad business for HTC and the CT.
eskimo
lmao... newbies... lol... total newbies aren't get as lame as you "vets" they're still at the stage of "trying thier damnedest" and put out a hell of a lot more honest effort than you chumps. you won't see me popping off on a newbie, unless it's one you've suckered into mimicking your lameness. ohh yeah, if you've never seen 'em before they must be "newbies"... maybe to the CT they are, but very seldom will a total newbie venture into what is often perceived, and quite incorrectly, a "elite" arena.
People left CT because of me? lololol to where? MA? roflmaopimp!!!! TA? lolololol - lord knows they need that.
or maybe they don't like this particular setup as several have *posted* already.
and lol, people trying to "cool me" there are a lot more who are trying to "lecture" me from some supposed higher moral ground.
i love the way you're trying to go after the vox populi in conjunction with a deus ex machina plea.
lol @ common lamers like you - tools that blow hot air out their butts and think it's perfume.
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Shane.
I don't know why you have a need to bash and insult, and I really don't care. Theres some reason you do it, be it to shock, pissoff, or just because you take joy in the fact you can get under peoples skin. Your a damn good stick in AH nonody can deny that.
The constant complaints and insults though do get old, now I'm sure your going to reply with a text nuke and insult me to max if possible, however I am going to try and reach you on this post.
I'm not trying to take a high moral ground, i'm hardly the person to do it. When you come on the text buffer claiming to all the world that everyone sans-Shane is a lamer, tard, or any of your usual barbs, you really only insult yourself. I don't know you personally, but I have reason to think your a teenager. Tard short for retarded, one of your favorite insults. Tell me whats more retarded, than a person who has a never ending need to insult, and disrupt, a whole on-line community just to somehow make him feel better about himself?
Lamer.........Hmm somebody who constantly complains that everyone else is doing something wrong, and not flying so he himself can enjoy the game, whats more lame than that?
Now you may not like us guys in the CT, thats fine, I'm not real sure anybody in here cares if you like them or not. A lot of these guys in here I consider friends. Theres a lot of vets flying in here like in the rest of AH, we got guys currently serving in the military not only in the U.S. but other countries. When you come in here and refer to people as Tards and Lamers, you proof nothing except that your not in the same class with these people. Now I can't stop you, theres nothing I can do at all about the way you act or the names you call people. However you are not a man, you may make it someday, but your not there yet. Only a boy would take such delight in constantly insulting people from the safety of his room where he doesnt have to face anyone eye to eye. Don't get me wrong I've had my fights as have most on this BBS. They are usually settled, once both sides figure out how stupid it is to get bent out of shape over a GAME. Thats what AH is a game, no matter how good you are or think you are, you still got to get up in the morning, go to work support your family, and look yourself in the mirror. Thats the real world, none of this AH crap means anything in the real world. many of us come here to escape the real crap, and enjoy ourselves if possible, we pay to play just like you. We don't consider ourselves elite or better than the MA crowd, we're here because we like the setups, and the atmosphere of the CT. Your hell raising robs some people of their enjoyment, maybe thats funny to you, but many of us don't find it funny at all. I don't know what your motivation is for all of the insults you offer so many people you come across in here. It gets old, and it's not amusing. Nobody thinks your clever, or funny. As you can see some think your insecure, I don't know what the reason is Shane. I do hope you reign it in a bit though, you might find people more willing to help you, listen to you, and fly with you. We came here to have a good time not to be harrassed by some guy who has nothing better to do.
Good Luck, I hope you get this sorted out.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Löwe
Shane. balhblablalblahblahbalblablab lahblahblablabllah
i see you come here and in an attmept to get me to stop insulting lamers, you insult me.
lol. my sig sums up everything nicely. read it.
here's your ticket, line for the circle jerk is ----->
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Salute Shane
As a CT Staffer, and one who reads these boards very closely, I am kinda dissappointed that we now have our first post which is primarily characterized by personal attacks.
It just hasn't happened before.
Maybe you should think about this.
You obviously are a very good pilot. You win more than your share of fights.
Why don't you try something:
Everytime you fight, win or lose, at the end of the fight, Salute.
Don't say anything else.
Now watch what happens.
People will start to compliment you on your skills.
You will start to hear lots of:
"Nice fight Shane"... "GG Shane".... "Hell of a fight Shane"....
Etc. etc.
People will start to post on these boards.
And do you know what they will say?
"That Shane, great guy, great stick"
Try it. ;)
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LOL should have known better than to try and talk sense to you.
By the way, the signature you so proudly refer us to all the time, is two thirds other peoples quotes and thoughts. Your arrogance is topped only by your ignorance. Have a good time playing the jerk off role while it last. Sooner or later people are going to quit trying to communicate with you, and just ignore you all together.
:D
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Well Buzz, looks like the true character of these CT dweebs is showing, eh?
as for your advice... well, let's just say i've seen others play in silence despite the lamness... does the lameness change? nope. do i need "compliments from others about my skills?" hardly. do i need a faux from 3 guys who just jumped all over me? not really, but if that's their thing, so be it. it's not my thing, so be it.
so... i'll call a spade a spade, thank you very much. it's really very simple, if CT is a mini-MA, then they'll get a little mimi-MA right back.
no one, not one of the people in this thread has any privildge of trying to come from some higher moral ground. not even you, buzz, with your backhanded advice. now i'd give it a lot more consideration had you also wagged your "staff" at these guys. did you? nope. so....
and now we come to another key concept and realization.
even in MA i don't give faux at most for a good fight i'll say "fun" or throw out a smiley. i will *not* ever give any lame gangbanging, refuse to try, no-skill dweebs a salute... ever. no one will ever change my stance on that. in the miraculous event some of these fellas meet *my* expectations and do godd... they'll get a "fun" or " :) " out of me.
play like MA, get some MA back. that simple. clear cut and dried. none of these people are as innocent as they're trying to make themselves appear to be, plenty of them try and insult me on ch1 (right before they, lololol, announce on ch 1 that they're gonna squelch me - now how lame is that? just do it! lol, like this is some jr. high school playground where you think peer pressure is going to have any effect.
and lowe... quotes by others in sigs is quite a standard practice. hell your own sig is a quote of someone or something, perhaps a motto. so again look at my sig... that explains how i come into the game, except those who don't show sportsmanship will receive no honor. WTFGAS YMMV.
having said this, i'll simply not respond to this thread any longer... it has been amusing and enlightening - almost as if a mirror was held up, but some people are too blind to see they're simply and hypocrites. and whiners. and a lot more personally insulting than merely being called a lamer dweeb in the context of the game.
lol @ common lamer dweebs.
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there was some stinky bait here, but I decided it was not appropriate. sorry for the edit.
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i'll simply not respond to this thread any longer
That is a good thing. :rolleyes:
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HEY SHANE !
I Have Never Since My Days In Grade School Seen Such A Little Pig-Tailed, Snot Nosed, Shin Kicking, Schoolyard Little Trouble Making squeak Like You.
WTF Is Your Major Malfunction, If Pising People Off Gives You Your Jollies You Must Be Sitting In The Worlds Largest Self Made Splooge Depository Known To Man.
Just About Every Thread On This Bulliten Board Has The Putred Stench Of Your Schoolyard Comments, Is This How You Get Your Rocks Off ??
Whats The Deal ? I Dont Get Why You Insist On Getting Under Everyones Skin, Do You Live Near High Voltage Power Lines Or Something.
I Have Delt With People Like You In My Everday Life And I Feel Sorry For You fediddleers.
There Are Much Better Ways To Get The Attention You Seem To Thrive On, Maybe Try It In A Positive Way For toejams And Giggles.
For The Love Of Pete Enough Is Enough Already.
And Before You Go Alt+Tabbin To Look Up My Scores Blah Blah Blah, I Dont Give A Flyin Fek How I Score, What My Rank Is, How Many Kills I Get Or What Not.
I Go Out There And I Try And Do What Is Needed For The Better Of The Team, Which Can Be Diving Into A Horde And Hope They Chase My bellybutton Away From The More Skilled Pilots So They Can Accomplish What Was Set Out To Do.
Call Me A Dweeb I Dont Care I Do What I Can With What I HAve To Work With.
So Come On Lets Try To Not Be As
LAME As You Accuse Everyone Of Being, Because I'll Tell Ya What Pal Your Actions Make You King Of The Ring In Lameness.
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Why don't you girls go to the TA, learn how to fight so you can shoot down Shane instead of posting whiney little threads like ergRTC did?
Show some testical fortitude and let your bullets to the talking instead of whining how mean Shane is to the little kiddies in the CT.
(http://www.hispanicvista.com/assets/479th_shield.jpg)
Ack-Ack
479th FG - Riddles Raiders
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LMAO Jim :)
Nice Tat also......
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Ack ack, I think you missed the point. If we didnt shoot him down there wouldnt be a problem. Thing is, we cant help it, then he starts whining and bad mouthing people. That is all. We are all just sick of his crying, and as eskimo said, it cant be good advertising for HTC as well. Calling newbies tards and telling them to go to the TA and such is not good for anybody.
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no tardlet, what you fail to understand is simply that being lame will get you called lame by me.
I just got to ask...Why? Whether you definition of "lame" matches everyone or even most everyone else's, why?
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Heh heh. Well, you have to admit that Shane has become an event in his own right. Looks like everyone else is kicking in some opinion, so I'll add mine.
I suspect that the CT is now a victim of its own reputation. For various reasons, it is expected by many be a place where you don't have an emphasis on "The War," and where one can find a certain degree of World War I chivalry. So I can understand why someone would be surprised, in a bad way, to find ganging, landgrabbing, vulching, that sort of thing, in the CT. I am also disappointed when I see it. FWIW, I have noticed an increase in this sort of thing, even among people I would consider to be long-time CT denizens. Perhaps, as the numbers rise and more people visit from the MA, we're losing our focus. At any rate, I think Shane is just giving voice to what many of us feel but don't express.
On the other hand, I have yet to figure out what pleasure can be gained from being so unpleasant about it. The utility of the complaint itself is lost in the reaction to the way the message is delivered. Just look at this thread. So far as I can tell, this is the first post, other than Shane's, to mention the substance of his complaints. Everyone is focused on the way the complaints are rendered.
All of which is to say that this is leading us the wrong way, and that, if the trend (on BOTH sides) continues, we WILL end up as just another MA, with a median emotional age of 12. I don't like that prospect very much.
- oldman
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oldman!
I wondered where you were hiding.
I just dont see the ganging, land grabbing, or vulching oldman. I do see good fights, and people having a good time though. I dont think shanes excuses deserve any kind of real consideration.
I dont think 'ganging' exists for someone that is careful. If i get low and slow with an opponent, I know that I am dead if any enemy with alt comes in. I will ask friendlies if they need help on an enemy, then will assist as needed. That is called teamwork. When I am on the bad side of that deal, I know it was my decision, and that I had set myself up for it. I think thats called being responsible for your own actions.
There have been many new faces recently, but I have not seen this kind of disrespect from any of them. No matter what they are doing.
If somebody calls out for a major land grab, I will tell them it is not necessarily 'kosher' in the CT, but I am not about to deride them or tell them to stop (I will tell them that resets tend to hose the arena though).
CT is a good place to fly long range bomber missions, intercept them, dogfight, improve your skills, try to fight with real ww2 tactics (yes that means superior numbers, teamwork or ganging as some refer to it, and good planning with wingmen). It is all the better that most of the community is civil, well mannered, and appreciate the kind of combat we see in here.
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I got quite a kick out of Shane's current squadron name in the CT last night when I first saw it. For those of you who have not seen it is, "Make the Bad Man Stop."
Pretty humorous in light of this thread.
As to ganging, I'm not sure we are all talking about the same thing. My definition of ganging is when one side builds up a large advantage in numbers and then turkey shoots the poor dudes on the other side. This happens from time to time in the CT but I find it tends not to last long since most of us will switch sides at the drop of a hat.
The other definition of ganging seems to be 3:1 in a given fight regardless of the arena balance. For my part, I try to avoid getting involved if my side seems to have the upper hand. If that does not seem to be the case I'll wade right in. I expect others to more or less wade right in to any fight I'm involved in as well. (Perhaps that is because I so seldom have the upper hand.)
It's strange when you think about it. Most of us fly the CT in order to get a little closer to actual historical matchups. Yet we complain if the matchup or the gameplay gets too realistic. Can you imagine Hartman, McQuire, Boelcke or Ball hovering above a fight an thinking, "Hmmm, looks like those boys are well matched, I better stay out of this one."
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Good post Oldman.
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How about a group hug? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by HFMudd
Hartman, McQuire, Boelcke or Ball hovering above a fight an thinking, "Hmmm, looks like those boys are well matched, I better stay out of this one."
No, you are quite right and if you go over a fellow's base I expect if you get 4 or 8 to 1 you are asking for it. On the other hand, with only 12-20 a side, is it too much to suggest that--since this is not as you note the real war and nothing much is lost by sitting one out--when you see a 2 to 1 that there is enough weight of arms already for your side and you might wish to stay out? In the constant scrum furball, what the heck, dive in and have fun, but in a remote fight, no pressing issue, suirely 2 on 1 is enough and I reckon I for 1 will try my damndest to say "I'm out on this one fellers, have fun." However, it is for all to decide for themselves and I don't begrudge being jumped by 4 guys, that's part of war you know.
When I choose to dive into 6 guys, I get what I am asking for, but I personally don't wish to jump into anymore 2 or 3 to 1s (in CT) in hopes that I am the guy who gets the kill. That's what the MA is for and it goes along with efficiently destroying the other guy so you can acquire land--a perfectly acceptable mindset for war waging I believe.
Besides, if I stay out and the outmanned fellow wins a hard fouht victory over 2 or even three enemies, I can honestly enjoy my salute prior to shooting down the ammoless and luckless sap while he limps home.
;-)
Sakai
PS
Just kidding on that last you know. Thanks for all the help offered, kind words, and good times on CT, it's the best part of AH (after my good looks) no question.
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If I see that the one bad guy is about to turn the tables and kill one of the good guys, hell yeah I'm jumping in. Otherwise, I won't blow my alt to club a helpless enemy.
All in all, Shane is the perfect example of why we need a persistent squelch list. Lots of people (based on this thread) don't want to listen to him on a regular basis, and it would save them from having to type .squelch Shane. ;)
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Great post Oldman! :) I don't know what the CT's reputation is or should be but from my limited observations it appears to be a microcosm of the MA minus some of the landgrabbing. I do like the historical matchups though (even if both sides tend to pick the most uber kites available) and it does, however fleetingly, satisfy my Walter Mitty syndrome making it at least worthwhile... but what does a lamer-tard like me know anyhow :P..
Sqrl
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Originally posted by Oldman731
I suspect that the CT is now a victim of its own reputation. So I can understand why someone would be surprised, in a bad way, to find ganging, landgrabbing, vulching, that sort of thing, in the CT. I am also disappointed when I see it. FWIW, I have noticed an increase in this sort of thing, even among people I would consider to be long-time CT denizens.
On the other hand, I have yet to figure out what pleasure can be gained from being so unpleasant about it. The utility of the complaint itself is lost in the reaction to the way the message is delivered. Just look at this thread. So far as I can tell, this is the first post, other than Shane's, to mention the substance of his complaints. Everyone is focused on the way the complaints are rendered.
- oldman
as far as I can see, being polite about it, i.e. your comment the other day "why must you pork the base?" when there was no base operations in progress, gets absolutely no response at all.
being "polite" doesn't work, gameplay doesn't change for the better. people trot out the same old tired MA retorts, "you have bad SA" lol, i do? really? you think i never see the one that gets me? especially when it's the 3rd lazy lumpwad that comes in to pick me off while i'm already low and slow turning with 2 others?
if *i* go diving down in a big group of 4,5,6 enemies, you won't see *me* whining about getting ganged. i knew full well what i was doing.
here's a perfect example of what i mean by ganging.. i'm relatively near an enemy base, not right at it but off a bit i pull a spit away from the lemming trail for as nice little 1 on 1 (even the spit was higher than me)... in the distance fairly far off are 3 enemy dots, at the extreme end of the visual range, maybe 11k or so. so here i am turning with the spit, not easy when you're already lower to begin with... then all of a sudden boom! those other 3 dots came into the fight... so now it's 4 on 1... wow, poor SA huh? if one wanted to be "real" about it, at least 1 or 2 of the 3 that came in would have stayed up on high cover - but noooooo all 3 had to jump in... wow, such a display of skill! excuse me if i call that lame. excuse me if i call a tard someone who says i have poor SA.
lame is also refusing to try when you're 1 on 1 and you come tearing in with an advantage, probably even in a better plane, and i turn the tables on you and you end up running like hell for friends or acks. not extending to try again, pure and simple running. this is a game, jeez, try and learn how to fly an dyou might be surprised at how well a preceived disadvantage can be overcome. you die often enough while trying, you'll eventually get better and start actually winning. how many of *you* have bounced me from an advantage only to end up in tower? or have been on my 6 and suddenly find you're the one being shot at? you think i was born with this? think i have soem super PC? i fly on a p2 333 and i took my lumps to get to the point where i'm capable of flying the way i do.
another example? vulching. what's the point of vulching when there are less than 10 people on? the base isn't trying to be captured, it's simply vulching for vulching's sake. don't up a "capped" base.... lol, teh base isn't being capped for anything, it's simple vulching. "up a different base" yeah sure, charlie, most CT setups bases aren't really that close to each other, you think i want to fly 10-15 mins to arrive at the "capped" base to find them gone? and thehn fly another 10 mins to their base looking for them? sorry... vulching for vulchings sake is.... lame.
lopsided numbers? often the number balance corrects itself over time, and i'm one of the first to switch sides when an imbalance occurs. but sometimes the odds can stay out of balance for quite a while. this isn't so much an issue for me, i'll just point out how nice it is to have 2,3:1 odds on sides, but i won't go off about it.
you won't see me getting upset about the ebb and flow of numbers in a furball. it's when i'm avoiding that furball, deliberately, and *still* get a 3,4 on 1 situation that I consider lame. it's just not needed. the point someone made about galland staying out of a fight is simply not relevant to a "game."ff cap stick with their job and escort buffs to and *from* a mission, even if the low fighter sweep/furball looks so tempting and the buffs have dropped already? hmmm? the guys who claim to be running it like RL, i simply laugh at, because they're not. CT is just basically a furball arena gussied up in fancy duds.
what really bothers me is how people think throwing out a faux somehow makes all the lameness "OK" and what bothers people about me is getting called out on that lameness - i'm simply peeling back the veneer of "politeness" and exposing the ugly MAness beneath the surface.
and my god, come on, people!! the strongest words you see from me 99% of the time are "lamer, dweeb, tard, seal" lol, even the little kids gets the good ole standby of "sticks and stones..." from their parents. lol, gawd, you're such overly sensitive lil weenies.
so yeah, MA-style lameness will get MA-style putdowns from me.
friggin babies.
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Gee Shane, funny you brought up vulching. Saturday when I logged on, for once the Allies were undermanned. So I grab a Temp from 3. I see that the ack is down, but take off anyway. I check around, set a couple of views, and woosh an El-Gay-Seven zooms by high from aprox 12:00. I'm about a mile past the end of the runway. He yo-yos, I try to extend, but am too low, slow and get clobbered right away.
Now I'm certainly not one to knock vulching, but to try and pretend like you wern't Shane... well shame-on-you,... Mr. High-and-Mighty Non-Dweeb. Sheesh. You were hangin around an ack-down-field waitin for an upper. You then circled to base for a few minutes till I upped an ostwind.
At least I admit that I vulch.
You've got to keep all you stories, facts and claims straight if you want to pretend to be so dang noble Shane.
eskimo
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Gee Shane, funny you brought up vulching.
woosh an El-Gay-Seven zooms by high from aprox 12:00. I'm about a mile past the end of the runway. He yo-yos, I try to extend, but am too low, slow and get clobbered right away.
At least I admit that I vulch.
You've got to keep all you stories, facts and claims straight if you want to pretend to be so dang noble Shane.
eskimo
sorry, i don't vulch for vulching's sake, i don't recall popping you in a temp in that situation, and believe me i would if i did. i will generally wait out side of a base, even allowing people to get some alt, especially when there's few on. ask p6ehawk, ask kikbts ask several others. however if there's a bse grab on, i might supress (vulch) if there's troops inbound.
but in general, no i don;t vulch for vulching sake's unless it's for a recent payback of someone doing that.
i will also gladly be at 10k and bounce people who blissfully head out from their base thinking they're safe and secure on the lemming trail. best way to get 262's is with a temp shortly after they've taken off and are merrily puttering along and grabbing.
but vulching for vulching's sake? not even something i do in MA, much less CT. i like the way you're making things up tho'. besides as you said... you were already wheels up beyond the runway, a good distance past, if what you said is actually true, i sure don't recall it, and i know i don't have a reputation for being a vulcher.
you admit you do. you're also a milker, an ack runner and even ganger, in general you're one of the lamer dweebs in CT.
interesting you're calling it an "el-gay7" when it's just about the only competitive plane in teh current setup. i notice you in 262's a lot, plus a tempest apparently... yet "el-gay7" your *MA* roots are showing, lamer.
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Ok, replying to my name being called out. Shane has never vulched me just to be vulching. Shane is a dogfighter nothing else. Shane fights as I have wanted to fight for a long time. Shane has made me shut my mouth about what I am flying. I tellya he could out turn me in a zero if he were in a F4U if he wanted to.
Shane I hate to ruin your pesky teenage reputation but you are a nice guy when it comes to downright dogfighting 1 vs 1 in an empty arena. You remind me of ME as much as I hate to admit it. Not that I am disrespectful as you but that you are tired of they way guys fly. Sure nobody seems to want to down right dogfight anymore. Whoever has the fastest airplane always uses the B and Z (airplanes capability) more than none to the capabilities of the pilot. I will be the first to admit that I let the airplane fly me instead of me flying the airplane. It would be nice if you would stop slandering people and teach some of us how to dogfight. But then again, you need to be carefull what you wish! I salute your combat skills but refrain from commenting on your social skills.
Why dont you meet me in the TA and Teach?
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:D SHANE... Like Mister Hawk says, yer a hard act to follow in the air. That is for sure and for true.
Yer easy to squelch, when the 'listening' gets too distracting. Which is something everyone should try at least once, instead of wasting all this UBB space on slamming another player.
You pay your dime and fly your time how you see fit When you're ready to pass on some of your valuable information/tips/tricks... give me a holler, because you for sure know how poor I am in the air/acm thing.
All you other lamers can just press your squelch button. :D
(joking about 'you other lamers')
Yes... I have been accused of 'whining' and being 'lame' too. But then the way I fly only improves others scores, so ya can kiss my cheeks and chew my shorts all ya want. :)
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LOL Shane, very convenient selective memory…
Ah… gee, I don’t recall that…
um, I know that I would have remembered… duh…
You vulched me Shane, not like I don’t deserve it, not like I even mind. I’m sure that you don’t have a reputation for vulching, but you and I both know of at least 1 recent situation where you did. The oddest thing about it was that after you killed me, you said nothing… Channel 1 was silent, and you weren’t too busy fighting anyone else to talk, cause there were no other Allied planes up. Perhaps you were too ashamed of yourself to admit on channel 1 that you “scratched 1 tard” because you figured I might have replied that it was a vulch kill. So unlike you to be silent.
Um, Shane, where was the goon?
Pretend to not remember all you want Shane.
eskimo
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Heh shane, I hear they fight real nice over in fighter aces.
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Guys I have uhhhhhhhhh..... a secret.:(
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Originally posted by eskimo2
LOL Shane, very convenient selective memory…
Ah… gee, I don’t recall that…
um, I know that I would have remembered… duh…
You vulched me Shane, not like I don’t deserve it, not like I even mind. I’m sure that you don’t have a reputation for vulching, but you and I both know of at least 1 recent situation where you did. The oddest thing about it was that after you killed me, you said nothing… Channel 1 was silent, and you weren’t too busy fighting anyone else to talk, cause there were no other Allied planes up. Perhaps you were too ashamed of yourself to admit on channel 1 that you “scratched 1 tard” because you figured I might have replied that it was a vulch kill. So unlike you to be silent.
Um, Shane, where was the goon?
Pretend to not remember all you want Shane.
eskimo
a mile off base is a vulch? were you having a hard time taking off?? oh, new definition? a CT definition? or a lamer definition? or simply a tard grasping at straws?
i bounce people off their base, i'll do that sure, now if anything *that's* poor SA on their part.
not that it matters because i don't remember doing so, and if it were *you* you can be damn sure i'd have remarked on it. i'd definitely have said something to the effect of "scratch one tard."
talk about being "selective." stop grasping, just 'fess up to your lameness, revel in it, glory in it - stand tall!!
Lamers Unite!!
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This is a good one to bookmark for the next time someone tries to play the CT off as being more mature.
AKDejaVu
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AKAK we are'nt a bunch of "kiddies" who are whining about the big bully. I dont need to got to the TA to learn to fight Shane. My squad flys here because overall they dont really care for the MA. I like both arenas for different reasons. I think the underlying thing here with Shane setting up shop in the CT is who and what he is. Shane is one of the biggest negatives in about AH. While the constant bs on ch1 in the MA is expected, its not that big a part of the CT. Im not saying it doesnt happen or I havent done my share of pissing and moaning in here, but we usually keep it in check to some extent.
I know the simple thing to do is to just squelch ch 1 or the player himself. I just feel like being forced to do it in the CT now is getting to some people including myself. This unfourtunately seems to be what Shane thrives on. It really doesnt seem to matter what the situation is or what happened he has an insult to throw out. I realize he pays his $15 and he has a right to his opinions, but his constant disrespect to people played itself out a long time ago. He can act like its all in fun but it sure comes off like something else.
No im not taking the moral high ground, no I dont think im elite because I fly the CT. You can check my stats and previous whines in other flame fests to see what im all about. Im just a little sick of his bs, but thats what he thrives on.
Question for you Shane, were you squeaking about getting jumped 3 vs 1 while at a disadvantage? If so, why is it ok for you to do the same? ( i may have misunderstood what you were saying in your rants so if Ive got it wrong disregard the question)
fire away
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dammed if i'd have shared that Lowe! :D
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After more than 24 hours of this fun, I say blow it off guys.
Shane has his position, just like each of us have our own. Personally, I think I can survive in a world where Shane thinks I'm a lamerdweebtard. This is getting boring as hell. Nobody says you have to like him or agree with him, and nobody says he has to like any of us or agree with us.
It's a new week surely theres something new to fight about!:D
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Yes,..I should think this has run its course.
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Guys, gals, and Lowe (God what a picture to post sir :p )
Let's be adult about this, eh? Either hunt Shane down and make him miserable, (which will probably get a few folks banned altogether for harassment) Or just let it drop.
This is like TV and RADIO... "..ARGHHH I hate when they talk crap 'bout my rap!" etc... If you don't like what you hear/read/see then turn the gotanged thing off.
This is not rocket science ya know?