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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Skyfoxx on October 28, 2002, 01:33:56 PM
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Any word on what the next setup will be?
Thanks
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I gotta think it up :)
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looks like we will have the kate soon, start yer planning!
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Originally posted by ergRTC
looks like we will have the kate soon, start yer planning!
Woot!
Sakai
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yes the kate a slow unarmed torpbomber.
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Originally posted by brady
yes the kate a slow unarmed torpbomber.
Hmmmmmm . . .thought B5N1 had single 7.7 rear cockpit and B5N2 had single or twin rearward and two 7.7s in wing mounts.
Sakai
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brady,
Check your email.
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thought B5N1 had single 7.7 rear cockpit and B5N2 had single or twin rearward and two 7.7s in wing mounts
You might be thinking of the Val? The B5N2 had a single rear firing 7.7mm.
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Originally posted by HFMudd
You might be thinking of the Val? The B5N2 had a single rear firing 7.7mm.
I certainly might be!
Sakai
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(B5N1) One x 7.7 mm machine gun, in rear cockpit
Underwing racks for 2 x 250 kg bombs or 6 x 60 kg bombs
(B5N2) Twin 7.7 mm machine guns, in rear cockpit
Two x 7.7 mm machine guns, fixed, above forward fuselage
Fuselage centreline rack for one 800 kg (18-inch) torpedo or 3 x 250 kg bombs.
I am pretty sure it will be the b5n2, anything esle would be torture. BUt oooooooooohhhhhh so much fun to shoot with a p40b or f4f. Much better than say an 'axis avenger' or early ahhem war variant of the ki-67.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Much better than say an 'axis avenger' or early ahhem war variant of the ki-67.
Just say it. You want the Betty don't you?
Sakai
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yet the ones in the pics apparently dont have any guns at all!
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I think betty is beautiful ;)
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So, where is the Devastator so that the USN has to suffer the same handicap?
MIA.
How about an actual Midway SBD?
MIA.
"Balance" is a joke.
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Much needed aircraft hint hint. :D
B5N
B6N
D4Y
A6M3
Ki43
KI44
KI45
KI84
KI100
J2M
G4M
Anybody notice a patteren?;)
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Here's a joke of a setup idea for you once 1.11 is released:
IJN/IJA:
A6M2 (1941)
B5N1 (1938)
D3A1 (1937)
vs.
USN/USAAF/RAF
Boston Mk III (1942)
F4F-4 (1941)
F4U-1 (1942)
Hurricane Mk I (1940)
Hurricane Mk IIc (1941)
P-40B (1940)
P-40E (1941)
SBD-5 (1943)
TBM-3 (1942)
EDIT: Added the F4U
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"Balance" is a joke.
I am glad you are starting to see that Karnak :)
Nothing like fighting a 1944 p38l at 30k in a 1942 109g6
or an eastern front setup where you have g2s vrs yak 9us
But even then the lw is much better off then the ijaaf/ijn. Even the russians with what little they have for planes they are still the best of the lot.
But you (ijaaf/ijn fans) do have the n1k2 and th ki-61 version with cannons so that oughta make up for it. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, the N1K2-J that gets whined away as an "MA" aircraft every time it is added to a setup and the Ki.61-I-KAIc that isn't appropriate for any setup before 2nd quarter 1944.
If the July, 1944 P-38L is in a setup, the Bf109G-10 also ought to be in that setup.
We need more early war Russian birds, not early war Japanese birds. The Japanese need late war birds so setups can be done against all the late war US birds we have. We have enough early war German and Italian birds to do East Front setups, but other than the Il-2 Type 3 there are no Russian aircraft that even approach being appropriate.
The Bf109G-14 would make an excellent addition to the German fighter planeset.
(As a side note I thought the Bf109G-6 first entered service in 1943. Am I wrong?)
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Yep Bf109G6 is a February-March 1943 plane.
What LW need are a new Bf109G6 with MW50 or a G14 all of which came with MW50. Plus of course the G6 3D model has to be rebuilt because its based on the G10 fuselage - stramlined MG bulges et all...
An interesting new CT setup would be the 1941-1942 Phillipines attack. There would be only Japanese CV and all the US Army fighters - P40B, P40E basically the early ones would be used from landbases. I dont think Wildcats were used in the Phillipines. Perhaps the Ju88 could simulate the early Japanese bombers, certainly this would be less of a performance and defensive fire issue than lets say the Ki-67.
The basis of this scenarios fighter combat would be P40 vs A6M2, which makes for fun basically even fights considering what we know now and what P40 pilots did not know back then.
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Yeah, the N1K2-J that gets whined away as an "MA" aircraft every time it is added to a setup and the Ki.61-I-KAIc that isn't appropriate for any setup before 2nd quarter 1944.
This makes it sound as if the N1K2-J is a earlier plane than the Ki.61. I was under the impression that the N1K2-J didn't even reach Navy trials until April 1944. Only 60 of 428 total were completed by the end of 1944.
Or am I missing the point like an Emil trying to get a d300 snapshot?
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I have seen the problem from both sides having flown Navy birds with VF-27 Hellcats and the Japaneses birds with the 27th Sentai and I can tell you for a FACT that the Japanese plane set is the one getting the "PROP SHAFT."
What we need are more late war Japanese birds like the FRANK & JACK fighters & the JUDY & GRACE (that's for you Brady :D) bombers.
Before you say it - I know we have the GEORGE (Niki) but folks lets face it - it's not a FRANK and the paper ZERO's and early carrier bombers are basicly a joke. Good for an early war set-up but only fit for "target practice" & Kamakaze runs in the late war set ups.
I for one would LOVE to see the Japanese get some better planes. This would make the combats in the arenas more intense and would open more late war scenarios for the CT like the Philippines, Okinawa, Iwo Jima or even the Battle of Japan.
IMO the Allied side has more than enough planes in their hangar for the moment. The Axis is the side that needs a real boost.
We really need to see the following A/C first in 1.11:
JAPANESE: (First priority)
FRANK (First and formost!)
JACK
KI-100
SUSIE
GRACE (ok, ok Brady I got it in! :D)
GERMAN:
HE-177 (Formost)
ME-210/410
JU-188/288 (or JU-88 with gun nose)
JU-52
ITALIANS:
(The got the 202 & 205 already - best of the lot fighter wise)
SM 79 SPARVIERO (Medium Bomber)
PIAGGIO P. 108 (Heavy Bomber)
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I may be a member of the 27th Sentai, but at this point I cannot see any reason to participate in early Pacific Theatre setups in the CT. They are now hopelessly in favor of the Allies and would only be aggravation and stress for me as a Japanese participant.
Until the gross inbalance is addressed I see no reason to provide myself as a sitting duck of a target to VF-27 and 880 FAA.
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Originally posted by Karnak
We have enough early war German and Italian birds to do East Front setups
Ummm... we have 1 italian early war plane :)
But you are very right, we definitly need at least 1 early war russian fighter, and I-153/16 are pretty much the only planes that really fit that catagory well IMO.. and we cant have one without the other :)
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I think how I feal about the Japanese planeset has been document enough in the past and my theripest says I nead to "let go man" and move on...so moving, A Cant z 1007 for Italy would certainly be the best Bomber italy could hope for, see blue link bellow on my sig, and a C 200 fighter, which realy was the early war Italian fighter, much more so than the 202, in fact only a few 202's were even in Russia like 12 the rest were 200's and the 200 was a Jabo bomb capable. The Sovites desperatly nead a few early war planes, like the I 16, and a Buff.
Thank you Andi:)
One thing we must all try and remember, they havent finished showing us what all were geting, just because Japan, Russia, and Italy are sucking hind tit now, does not mean that they will not move up the line. Just do like I did last update, wait till we get the patch then get realy upset:)
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Check out this for a New Russian Ftr.:http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49969
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My coments on the kate from a post asking about it a couple weeks ago:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66829
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Originally posted by Karnak
I may be a member of the 27th Sentai, but at this point I cannot see any reason to participate in early Pacific Theatre setups in the CT. They are now hopelessly in favor of the Allies and would only be aggravation and stress for me as a Japanese participant.
Until the gross inbalance is addressed I see no reason to provide myself as a sitting duck of a target to VF-27 and 880 FAA.
Hang in there Karnak. The 325th is up to four pilots already, we'll fly IJ with you guys during PTO's, we've decide to do this because Erg was mean to me a couple of weeks ago.;)
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dammit erg:D
As an Allied flyer I hope you guys realize I would love to see a balanced planeset aswell. It just makes it better for all of us.
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Kate?????
As long as we are going backwards in time....how about the USAAC 1933 Curtiss P-6E Hawk? BLAHAhhahaha However, the Kate will make for nice torp runs.
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The 109g6 is basically the same as the g2 with a strengthened airframe making it heavier.
It saw service in Feb '43 but its basically a '42 plane.
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
Kate?????
As long as we are going backwards in time....how about the USAAC 1933 Curtiss P-6E Hawk? BLAHAhhahaha However, the Kate will make for nice torp runs.
I know the Kate is a step back, but throw in the Devastator as well for the Coral Sea/ Midway era. It is pretty much a sitting duck, but what Torp bomber isnt.:)
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oh! How did I get involved in this!
(wasnt there a picture of simmons around here somewhere?)